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Sonics Advanced Metrics Ratings in 1990s

SRS which I often mention for college football also uses the same rating system for all sports. I was curious what the Sonics were ranked during some of their best seasons in the 1990s. Interestingly, they were #1 for three straight seasons and then #2 when they lost to the Bulls. The Sonics were obviously a great regular season team but these metrics argue that their playoff performance was worse than it appears on the surface, which is already poor.

1992-1993- 1
1993-1994- 1
1994-1995- 1
1995-1996- 2
1996-1997- 3
1997-1998- 3
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259
    There's no question that the Sonics of that era on one hand underachieved, but on the other hand also goes to show that there are things that you have to consider outside of the stats.

    The '92-'93 team was busy trying to figure out how good they could be. They made a great end of the year trade to get Sam Perkins. You had the young guys in Payton and Kemp making the team their own while some old guys still holding onto their veteran dog status. I wouldn't say that it was the best Sonic team, but probably the deepest and most fun to watch.

    The '93-'94 team SHOULD have won a title on paper. They were easily the best team in the league. But they also had a massively combustible locker room that blew up during the Denver series.

    The '94-'95 team was still trying to find itself again. They had a great team but the chemistry wasn't right. Kendall Gill was just a terrible fit on that team and they ran against a team in the playoffs that they didn't seem to matchup well with and an all-time irrational confidence guy in Nick Van Exel.

    The '95-'96 team was easily the best team that they had during that era that finally looked like a team in swapping Kendall Gill for Hersey Hawkins. This was a team that probably would have won the NBA title most years but had the misfortune of putting it all together the same year that Jordan and Co. authored the greatest year of all time. This was also the last year where the Sonics were a team that had great depth.

    The '96-'97 team was still good but was absolutely destroyed in the depth department. If you go back and look at the box scores during the playoffs that year, the only guys that would get off the bench were Cummings/Perkins depending on who started and David Wingate.

    The '97-'98 team was still good as you didn't lose too much dropping Kemp for Baker in the regular season ... you noticed it during the playoffs. While the depth was much, much better, the reality was that just about everybody of consequence on the roster was either approaching 30 (Payton was 29) or over 30. Once Baker went completely down hill, the run was over.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited May 2014
    1993-1994 #magicalseason.

    I worked with a guy who was a "huge sonics fan" (until he wasn't). They day they lost to the nuggets was one of the greatest days ever and was the day I realized I was a huge gaping asshole. I mocked this bandwagon fucker relentlessly until I quit that place a year or so later.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Tequilla said:

    There's no question that the Sonics of that era on one hand underachieved, but on the other hand also goes to show that there are things that you have to consider outside of the stats.

    The '92-'93 team was busy trying to figure out how good they could be. They made a great end of the year trade to get Sam Perkins. You had the young guys in Payton and Kemp making the team their own while some old guys still holding onto their veteran dog status. I wouldn't say that it was the best Sonic team, but probably the deepest and most fun to watch.

    The '93-'94 team SHOULD have won a title on paper. They were easily the best team in the league. But they also had a massively combustible locker room that blew up during the Denver series.

    The '94-'95 team was still trying to find itself again. They had a great team but the chemistry wasn't right. Kendall Gill was just a terrible fit on that team and they ran against a team in the playoffs that they didn't seem to matchup well with and an all-time irrational confidence guy in Nick Van Exel.

    The '95-'96 team was easily the best team that they had during that era that finally looked like a team in swapping Kendall Gill for Hersey Hawkins. This was a team that probably would have won the NBA title most years but had the misfortune of putting it all together the same year that Jordan and Co. authored the greatest year of all time. This was also the last year where the Sonics were a team that had great depth.

    The '96-'97 team was still good but was absolutely destroyed in the depth department. If you go back and look at the box scores during the playoffs that year, the only guys that would get off the bench were Cummings/Perkins depending on who started and David Wingate.

    The '97-'98 team was still good as you didn't lose too much dropping Kemp for Baker in the regular season ... you noticed it during the playoffs. While the depth was much, much better, the reality was that just about everybody of consequence on the roster was either approaching 30 (Payton was 29) or over 30. Once Baker went completely down hill, the run was over.

    "George Karl was their coach" also would have been acceptable analysis.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,254 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2014
    For some reason I remember the Sonics going 0 of 5? on an East Coast road trip in '93-'94. I was sick as hell with the crud that week so I listened to KJR all day. Anyway, using 20/20 hindsight, it was an ominous sign.
  • QuornDawg
    QuornDawg Member Posts: 1,162

    For some reason I remember the Sonics going 0 of 5? on an East Coast road trip in '93-'94. I was sick as hell with the crud that week so I listened to KJR all day. Anyway, using 20/20 hindsight, it was an ominous sign.

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    For some reason I remember the Sonics going 0 of 5? on an East Coast road trip in '93-'94. I was sick as hell with the crud that week so I listened to KJR all day. Anyway, using 20/20 hindsight, it was an ominous sign.

    They were 63-19 that regular season. Longest losing streak was 3 games.

    However they did have a road trip where they went 1-4. Tough road trip given they defeated the Knick(Eastern Conference champs), lost to Atlanta(best record in the east) and lost to Indiana(ECF finalist).

    Tequilla was spot on with his post.
  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180

    1993-1994 #magicalseason.

    I worked with a guy who was a "huge sonics fan" (until he wasn't). They day they lost to the nuggets was one of the greatest days ever and was the day I realized I was a huge gaping asshole. I mocked this bandwagon fucker relentlessly until I quit that place a year or so later.

    Is that when Lowe's recruited you?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    2013-14 Blazers >>>> 1995-96 Sonics
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    The '94-'95 team was still trying to find itself again. They had a great team but the chemistry wasn't right.

    You can't expect much when you're playing home games at the Tacoma Dome - helluva commute

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5mMyaH3Kk