If you read anything today
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That was a refreshing and reasoned take on how history indeed repeats itself. The question is ... do we? end up with the end game where similar revolutions have come to a head? Even if Trump wins, what happens 5 years from now after 5 more years of brainwashed middle- and upper-class children thinking their parents are the problem with the country?
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Why do people at the top want to destroy the system that enabled them to get there? “No,” Mr. Morson says, “you have it wrong. When you’re such a person, you don’t feel you’re at the top. The people at the top are wealthy businesspeople, and you’re an intellectual. You think that people of ideas should be at the top.”
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You mean like the last 50 years of American history? People don’t move to the left of society, society moves to the left of them.NorthwestFresh said:That was a refreshing and reasoned take on how history indeed repeats itself. The question is ... do we? end up with the end game where similar revolutions have come to a head? Even if Trump wins, what happens 5 years from now after 5 more years of brainwashed middle- and upper-class children thinking their parents are the problem with the country?
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The danger begins, he thinks, when complex social and political problems can’t be debated any longer. “You get into a revolutionary situation because people can’t hear,” he says. “Can there be a dialogue on important questions, or is there only one thing to say about every question? Are people afraid to say, ‘Well, yes, but it’s not quite as simple as that’? . . . When you can’t do that, you’re heading to a one-party state or a dictatorship of some sort. If one party is always wrong and another always right, why not just have the right one?”
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And history can unfold in unpredictable ways. Who would have guessed 20 years ago, he asks, that the First Amendment’s free-speech guarantee would become passé on the liberal left? “I used to get a laugh from students by quoting a Soviet citizen I talked to once. He said to me, ‘Of course we have freedom of speech. We just don’t allow people to lie.’ That used to get a laugh! They don’t laugh anymore.”
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Did you even read the article?MelloDawg said:
You mean like the last 50 years of American history? People don’t move to the left of society, society moves to the left of them.NorthwestFresh said:That was a refreshing and reasoned take on how history indeed repeats itself. The question is ... do we? end up with the end game where similar revolutions have come to a head? Even if Trump wins, what happens 5 years from now after 5 more years of brainwashed middle- and upper-class children thinking their parents are the problem with the country?
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They'll all be dead because wearing COVID masks constantly kills the auto-immune system.NorthwestFresh said:That was a refreshing and reasoned take on how history indeed repeats itself. The question is ... do we? end up with the end game where similar revolutions have come to a head? Even if Trump wins, what happens 5 years from now after 5 more years of brainwashed middle- and upper-class children thinking their parents are the problem with the country?
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Turns out breathing in your own CO2 kills brain cells.PurpleThrobber said:
They'll all be dead because wearing COVID masks constantly kills the auto-immune system.NorthwestFresh said:That was a refreshing and reasoned take on how history indeed repeats itself. The question is ... do we? end up with the end game where similar revolutions have come to a head? Even if Trump wins, what happens 5 years from now after 5 more years of brainwashed middle- and upper-class children thinking their parents are the problem with the country?
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Doot dee doo...NorthwestFresh said:
Turns out breathing in your own CO2 kills brain cells.PurpleThrobber said:
They'll all be dead because wearing COVID masks constantly kills the auto-immune system.NorthwestFresh said:That was a refreshing and reasoned take on how history indeed repeats itself. The question is ... do we? end up with the end game where similar revolutions have come to a head? Even if Trump wins, what happens 5 years from now after 5 more years of brainwashed middle- and upper-class children thinking their parents are the problem with the country?
Yeah, who knew?
Fucking idiots. Science.....right.
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The left must have wearing masks their whole life.NorthwestFresh said:
Turns out breathing in your own CO2 kills brain cells.PurpleThrobber said:
They'll all be dead because wearing COVID masks constantly kills the auto-immune system.NorthwestFresh said:That was a refreshing and reasoned take on how history indeed repeats itself. The question is ... do we? end up with the end game where similar revolutions have come to a head? Even if Trump wins, what happens 5 years from now after 5 more years of brainwashed middle- and upper-class children thinking their parents are the problem with the country?
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We are already there. Think about how many issues the left no longer even allows to be debated. Shouts of "racism" "sexism" "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" are designed to shut down debate and silence people who you disagree with. How many Trump supporters would never even dream of putting a Trump bumper sticker on their car or sign in their yard?DerekJohnson said:The danger begins, he thinks, when complex social and political problems can’t be debated any longer. “You get into a revolutionary situation because people can’t hear,” he says. “Can there be a dialogue on important questions, or is there only one thing to say about every question? Are people afraid to say, ‘Well, yes, but it’s not quite as simple as that’? . . . When you can’t do that, you’re heading to a one-party state or a dictatorship of some sort. If one party is always wrong and another always right, why not just have the right one?”
If you were to vocally express support for Trump here in the Bay Area, in public, I'll guarantee you that you will at least be called a bunch of nasty names and most likely you're going to end up in a fight. -
Same in Portland. I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016 but will in 2020, but there is zero chance I’m going to advertise my support.SFGbob said:
We are already there. Think about how many issues the left no longer even allows to be debated. Shouts of "racism" "sexism" "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" are designed to shut down debate and silence people who you disagree with. How many Trump supporters would never even dream of putting a Trump bumper sticker on their car or sign in their yard?DerekJohnson said:The danger begins, he thinks, when complex social and political problems can’t be debated any longer. “You get into a revolutionary situation because people can’t hear,” he says. “Can there be a dialogue on important questions, or is there only one thing to say about every question? Are people afraid to say, ‘Well, yes, but it’s not quite as simple as that’? . . . When you can’t do that, you’re heading to a one-party state or a dictatorship of some sort. If one party is always wrong and another always right, why not just have the right one?”
If you were to vocally express support for Trump here in the Bay Area, in public, I'll guarantee you that you will at least be called a bunch of nasty names and most likely you're going to end up in a fight. -
Some people won't even tell a pollster they are voting for Trump
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Hell of an article. The minute one side or the other of a social issue speaks only in absolutes, honest discussions are doomed from the start. Of course there are assholes out there in law enforcement, or anywhere. There are asshole refs in sports too, does that mean there is "Systemic " bias in all refereeing in all major leagues in this country? Of course not. But media speaks of "Systemic " racism in law enforcement or society in general as an absolute statement, which is not backed by real facts. But these statements quelch any debate by the other side.
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Institutional racism, systemic racism, environmental racism. All of these are intentionally vague and are used to shut down debate.BangaRang said:Hell of an article. The minute one side or the other of a social issue speaks only in absolutes, honest discussions are doomed from the start. Of course there are assholes out there in law enforcement, or anywhere. There are asshole refs in sports too, does that mean there is "Systemic " bias in all refereeing in all major leagues in this country? Of course not. But media speaks of "Systemic " racism in law enforcement or society in general as an absolute statement, which is not backed by real facts. But these statements quelch any debate by the other side.
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Yes, yes, and yes. Vagueness is the primary weapon of a liar
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With the mob and numbers behind them, people would attack Trump supporters. They don’t say shit or do anything if they don’t have numbers tho.SFGbob said:
We are already there. Think about how many issues the left no longer even allows to be debated. Shouts of "racism" "sexism" "homophobia" and "Islamophobia" are designed to shut down debate and silence people who you disagree with. How many Trump supporters would never even dream of putting a Trump bumper sticker on their car or sign in their yard?DerekJohnson said:The danger begins, he thinks, when complex social and political problems can’t be debated any longer. “You get into a revolutionary situation because people can’t hear,” he says. “Can there be a dialogue on important questions, or is there only one thing to say about every question? Are people afraid to say, ‘Well, yes, but it’s not quite as simple as that’? . . . When you can’t do that, you’re heading to a one-party state or a dictatorship of some sort. If one party is always wrong and another always right, why not just have the right one?”
If you were to vocally express support for Trump here in the Bay Area, in public, I'll guarantee you that you will at least be called a bunch of nasty names and most likely you're going to end up in a fight.
