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Mark Cuban gets it - doesn't think Sterling should be kicked out of the league

dnc
dnc Member Posts: 56,840
Took a lot of balls to come out and say this, but he's absolutely correct.

""But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that's not the United States of America. I don't want to be part of that."

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Sterling sucks. He should be fined majorly and suspended for a very long length of time. But forcing him to sell sets a really dangerous precedent.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Yep. Not to mention that forcing him to sell likely results in a drastic lowering of the asking price.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited April 2014
    Cowherd sorta alluded to it helping seattle this morning

    A solution, and this is pretty out there but Hansen has been willing to go the extra mile. Have Hansen overpay to buy the clippers off sterling, then sell it to an owner who will keep it in LA. In exchange receive a guaranteed franchise before the MOU is up.
    I know it's pretty farfetched
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,679 Standard Supporter
    I saw the interview. If we took severe action against every racist business owner, it would become a semi-totalitarian state.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Cuban is awesome. Would love for him to be owner of the Mariners. He makes Shark Tank hilarious to watch as corny and fake as that show is.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    Cuban is awesome. Would love for him to be owner of the Mariners. He makes Shark Tank hilarious to watch as corny and fake as that show is.

    Bashing Donald Sterling is fine, but if we're going to bash Shark Tank I'm fucking out.

  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    dnc said:

    Cuban is awesome. Would love for him to be owner of the Mariners. He makes Shark Tank hilarious to watch as corny and fake as that show is.

    Bashing Donald Sterling is fine, but if we're going to bash Shark Tank I'm fucking out.

    I fucking love the show.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    dnc said:

    Cuban is awesome. Would love for him to be owner of the Mariners. He makes Shark Tank hilarious to watch as corny and fake as that show is.

    Bashing Donald Sterling is fine, but if we're going to bash Shark Tank I'm fucking out.

    I fucking love the show.
    same here, wifey and I don't miss an episode

  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Cuban is awesome. Would love for him to be owner of the Mariners. He makes Shark Tank hilarious to watch as corny and fake as that show is.

    Bashing Donald Sterling is fine, but if we're going to bash Shark Tank I'm fucking out.

    I fucking love the show.
    same here, wifey and I don't miss an episode

    I think the Profit on CNBC is a much better "biz" show but Shark Tank is good for sure. I hate that real estate cunt. I'm sorry but she does not have the depth of real biz knowledge that the others do. Cuban sold his company at the top of the market while this twat was trying to find new ways to hawk real estate to people during the bust when it was still way overvalued.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Cuban is awesome. Would love for him to be owner of the Mariners. He makes Shark Tank hilarious to watch as corny and fake as that show is.

    Bashing Donald Sterling is fine, but if we're going to bash Shark Tank I'm fucking out.

    I fucking love the show.
    same here, wifey and I don't miss an episode

    I think the Profit on CNBC is a much better "biz" show but Shark Tank is good for sure. I hate that real estate cunt. I'm sorry but she does not have the depth of real biz knowledge that the others do. Cuban sold his company at the top of the market while this twat was trying to find new ways to hawk real estate to people during the bust when it was still way overvalued.
    Lorie (QBC cunt) and the botox witch both suck. The Profit is also a really good show.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,147
    edited April 2014
    If we are talking Shark Tank analysis, we gotta talk Mr. Wonderful. I hate how the guy always makes the same offer. He never takes any risk and offers the same shitty royalty deal to anyone he makes an offer to. He's kind of funny though. It's an entertaining show.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Lots of investment reality show superiority guys here.

    Do the owners have an agreement that they can force someone to sell for certain reasons? If not, there is no fucking way he can be forced out for expressing an unpopular opinion. He has not actually done anything illegal nor has he discriminated against anyone or blocked their opportunities in his organization. He has though, made a black man the highest paid coach in the league.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Lots of investment reality show superiority guys here.

    Do the owners have an agreement that they can force someone to sell for certain reasons? If not, there is no fucking way he can be forced out for expressing an unpopular opinion. He has not actually done anything illegal nor has he discriminated against anyone or blocked their opportunities in his organization. He has though, made a black man the highest paid coach in the league.

    At this point you've become a parody of yourself.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    If we are talking Shark Tank analysis, we gotta talk Mr. Wonderful. I hate how the guy always makes the same offer. He never takes any risk and offers the same shitty royalty deal to anyone he makes an offer to. He's kind of funny though. It's an entertaining show.

    He just wants to wet his beak.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    dnc said:

    Took a lot of balls to come out and say this, but he's absolutely correct.

    ""But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that's not the United States of America. I don't want to be part of that."

    link

    Sterling sucks. He should be fined majorly and suspended for a very long length of time. But forcing him to sell sets a really dangerous precedent.

    I thought the slipper slope argument was only for pussy democrats.
  • DawgDaze71
    DawgDaze71 Member Posts: 708
    Mark and Donald share some parallels

    Both are Jewish men who have changed their surnames (Donald Tokowitz and Mark Chabenisky)
    They have made a lot of money in life and own BBall teams
    They like women and business

    I see no reason why Cuban wouldn't support Tokowitz. They have both worked hard to amass their wealth and property
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    Mark and Donald share some parallels

    Both are Jewish men who have changed their surnames (Donald Tokowitz and Mark Chabenisky)
    They have made a lot of money in life and own BBall teams
    They like women and business

    I see no reason why Cuban wouldn't support Tokowitz. They have both worked hard to amass their wealth and property

    Let's make something clear here. Cuban isn't at all supporting Sterling and has said as much. As an owner he is protecting his own ass. He doesn't want a precedent to be set where owners are being banned for having private conversations.

    Among friends we've all said things in private that would look terrible if it were released publicly. I support Sterling being banned I really do. However, I can see where Cuban is coming from.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840


    I thought the slipper slope argument was only for pussy democrats.

    I'm sure someone has said that but it certainly wasn't me
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    I bet those hicks from Oklahoma haven't said anything racist even in private.... ;)
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    I bet those hicks from Oklahoma haven't said anything racist even in private.... ;)

    While they still owned team in Seattle I thought McLendon had some anti homosexual remarks which was glossed over by the NBA.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,679 Standard Supporter
    This is ridiculous. Ban him for a year. Silver caved.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    This is ridiculous. Ban him for a year. Silver caved.

    A year isn't enough. You can't allow him back into the NBA. Like APAG pointed out the players were about to revolt. You can't lose your league within 3 months of being commissioner.

    Sterling would just wait out a year and return. Sterling loves the attention and the glamour which being an NBA owner is all about. Silver made the right decision here and this was the only decision he could have made.
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652
    This is white America still struggling with racist guilt.

    The NBA is a cartel and its members and participants are subject to its own rules. The life ban seems consistent with the fascist ideals from which David Stern built the NBA.

    If Mark Cuban doesn't want to live where "taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form," then he should GTFO since this nation's season was over long ago.

    What would Gandhi do?
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    This is white America still struggling with racist guilt.

    The NBA is a cartel and its members and participants are subject to its own rules. The life ban seems consistent with the fascist ideals from which David Stern built the NBA.

    If Mark Cuban doesn't want to live where "taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form," then he should GTFO since this nation's season was over long ago.

    What would Gandhi do?

    Lol. Some of y'all will never get it. Equating Stern with fascism. Stern was an employee. Silver is an employee. Goodell is an employee. They do their bosses bidding.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    This is ridiculous. Ban him for a year. Silver caved.

    A year isn't enough. You can't allow him back into the NBA. Like APAG pointed out the players were about to revolt. You can't lose your league within 3 months of being commissioner.

    Sterling would just wait out a year and return. Sterling loves the attention and the glamour which being an NBA owner is all about. Silver made the right decision here and this was the only decision he could have made.
    not to mention corporate sponsor, tv networks, other owners, etc. Sterling is a cancer to the NBA, he needed to go
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    Lots of investment reality show superiority guys here.

    Do the owners have an agreement that they can force someone to sell for certain reasons? If not, there is no fucking way he can be forced out for expressing an unpopular opinion. He has not actually done anything illegal nor has he discriminated against anyone or blocked their opportunities in his organization. He has though, made a black man the highest paid coach in the league.

    This guy gets it. Actions speak louder than words. Sterling has actually done more for the black populous than all of us on here combined 1,000,000,000 times over.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Mosster47 said:

    Lots of investment reality show superiority guys here.

    Do the owners have an agreement that they can force someone to sell for certain reasons? If not, there is no fucking way he can be forced out for expressing an unpopular opinion. He has not actually done anything illegal nor has he discriminated against anyone or blocked their opportunities in his organization. He has though, made a black man the highest paid coach in the league.

    This guy gets it. Actions speak louder than words. Sterling has actually done more for the black populous than all of us on here combined 1,000,000,000 times over.
    Lol. Google "bomani jones dan lebatard donald sterling". That will explain to you why Sterling is so bad. You idiots still don't realize that this is a lifetime achievement banning.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    Mosster47 said:

    Lots of investment reality show superiority guys here.

    Do the owners have an agreement that they can force someone to sell for certain reasons? If not, there is no fucking way he can be forced out for expressing an unpopular opinion. He has not actually done anything illegal nor has he discriminated against anyone or blocked their opportunities in his organization. He has though, made a black man the highest paid coach in the league.

    This guy gets it. Actions speak louder than words. Sterling has actually done more for the black populous than all of us on here combined 1,000,000,000 times over.
    Lol. Google "bomani jones dan lebatard donald sterling". That will explain to you why Sterling is so bad. You idiots still don't realize that this is a lifetime achievement banning.
    I don't have a problem with a lifetime achievement banning, and I think the idea that Sterling has done anything for the black population is ridiculous. If Sterling was gone there would be some other owner paying all these black players. The league isn't short on potential owners.

    My issue is the hypocrisy that the league's never done shit to him until this incident which went viral. Everyone's known he's a racist for years. THE DUDE HAS HAD FEDERAL CHARGES FOR HOUSING DISCRIMINATION. And the NBA was silent. But they ban him now, after a private conversation?

    The NBA is simply trying to look TUFF on racism since all of a sudden everyone cares, but when no one cared before it didn't other them at all.

    It's massive hypocrisy and doesn't make a bit of sense. I'm thrilled Sterling's going to be out of the league but this wasn't the way to do it, IMO.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    dnc said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Lots of investment reality show superiority guys here.

    Do the owners have an agreement that they can force someone to sell for certain reasons? If not, there is no fucking way he can be forced out for expressing an unpopular opinion. He has not actually done anything illegal nor has he discriminated against anyone or blocked their opportunities in his organization. He has though, made a black man the highest paid coach in the league.

    This guy gets it. Actions speak louder than words. Sterling has actually done more for the black populous than all of us on here combined 1,000,000,000 times over.
    Lol. Google "bomani jones dan lebatard donald sterling". That will explain to you why Sterling is so bad. You idiots still don't realize that this is a lifetime achievement banning.
    I don't have a problem with a lifetime achievement banning, and I think the idea that Sterling has done anything for the black population is ridiculous. If Sterling was gone there would be some other owner paying all these black players. The league isn't short on potential owners.

    My issue is the hypocrisy that the league's never done shit to him until this incident which went viral. Everyone's known he's a racist for years. THE DUDE HAS HAD FEDERAL CHARGES FOR HOUSING DISCRIMINATION. And the NBA was silent. But they ban him now, after a private conversation?

    The NBA is simply trying to look TUFF on racism since all of a sudden everyone cares, but when no one cared before it didn't other them at all.

    It's massive hypocrisy and doesn't make a bit of sense. I'm thrilled Sterling's going to be out of the league but this wasn't the way to do it, IMO.
    I find that easy to agree with. Stern would most likely not have gotten support from the owners to punish Sterling for settled lawsuits and allegations made by a former employee. That's a precedent they would have refused. Racism caught on tape with public and employee (players and coaches) pressure made it possible.

    The owners made a business decision. Sterling was bad for business now, he wasn't before. It's not about racism for the owners.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,147
    edited April 2014
    I can't defend Sterling, and he is a piece of shit. He was also a terrible owner who hurt the NBA by fielding a shit team for years. Until the last three years, he did exactly what the Mariners do. The TV contract and lease agreement were good enough to be profitable. There is no doubt that it is beneficial to push him out and get a new owner in.

    I do have qualms about using what a guy says in private against him. That just doesn't seem right. I also don't like it that if you bitch and whine with enough people, you get your way. Nobody's life will be any different with Sterling gone. Sometimes life isn't fair, people say offensive shit. Is it really that big of a deal? You don't have to agree with everyone. People can believe whatever the fuck they want, and strong arming them is not going to change a fucking thing. I think people enjoy getting their pitchfork out and being the moral police more than they actually care about the issue sometimes.

    Letting Rivers and Paul off without a single fucking question about Sterling's past is annoying too. They shouldn't feel guilty because there is nothing wrong with accepting millions. I would accept 15 million a year from a black business owner who didn't want his girlfriend associating with white people. I wouldn't give a flying fuck, and neither did these players and coaches until the public pressure got ramped up.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    edited April 2014

    Mosster47 said:

    Lots of investment reality show superiority guys here.

    Do the owners have an agreement that they can force someone to sell for certain reasons? If not, there is no fucking way he can be forced out for expressing an unpopular opinion. He has not actually done anything illegal nor has he discriminated against anyone or blocked their opportunities in his organization. He has though, made a black man the highest paid coach in the league.

    This guy gets it. Actions speak louder than words. Sterling has actually done more for the black populous than all of us on here combined 1,000,000,000 times over.
    Lol. Google "bomani jones dan lebatard donald sterling". That will explain to you why Sterling is so bad. You idiots still don't realize that this is a lifetime achievement banning.
    Holy crap, Bomani nailed it. That was fantastic.

    "A whole lot of these people that wanta act like they care about racism don't give a good damn about racism. What they care about right now is a chance to jump on an easy punching bag."