Presented without comment: ASJ's individual workout with the Jets.

Amazing what these guys can accomplish just a few months removed from Ivan's tutelage.

Meanwhile...$C is a MASH unit.

I thought he didn't run at the combine?

ASJ doesn't quite have the hips that Jimmy Graham does

If ASJ actually runs a 4.56, it's not football speed. It was surely some fucktard's hand time. No way he runs sub 4.7 electronically. He sucked at getting YAC. I can count on two hands the times he gained more than 10 yards after the catch. I don't remember many broken tackles either. 6'6" 271 with a 4.56 is being a better athlete than Clowney. ASJ is a big, pretty slow TE who has good hands. Maybe he can work his way into being a good TE with some real coaching, but I have my doubts.

CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

He didn't run at the combine.

Houhusky said:

I am calling bullshit on the 4.56 time, it was probably hand timed but some fucktard assistant intern trainer.

He ran a 4.75 40 at the draft combine

his only other "event" was bench press; 225lbs 20 times placing him 10th among the 15 TEs at the combine

a guy who is 6'6" weighs in at 271 and struggles to bench press in the top half of his TE class isnt going to suddenly run in the top10 fastest 40 times for TEs ever and third or fourth best vertical in 5 years

They are claiming he has Jimmy Graham type numbers but at 10+ lbs heavier after being fairly pedestrian at the combine

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft/combine/_/id/7

Am I a complete fucktard or does ESPN have a 40 time for ASJ? Where did the time come from if not from the combine?

RoadDawg55 said:

If ASJ actually runs a 4.56, it's not football speed. It was surely some fucktard's hand time. No way he runs sub 4.7 electronically. He sucked at getting YAC. I can count on two hands the times he gained more than 10 yards after the catch. I don't remember many broken tackles either. 6'6" 271 with a 4.56 is being a better athlete than Clowney. ASJ is a big, pretty slow TE who has good hands. Maybe he can work his way into being a good TE with some real coaching, but I have my doubts.

This is certainly what we witnessed his entire career.

OTOH, it's entirely possible he's committed himself to conditioning for the first time ever, and seeing serious resluts (lol!) with it.

I have no trouble believing a big player could shave .15 to .2 off his 40 time when he gets out from under the not so watchful eye of Sloppy Seven and decides to be serious about his career.

Then that would be even slower.

CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

He didn't run at the combine.

Houhusky said:

I am calling bullshit on the 4.56 time, it was probably hand timed but some fucktard assistant intern trainer.

He ran a 4.75 40 at the draft combine

his only other "event" was bench press; 225lbs 20 times placing him 10th among the 15 TEs at the combine

a guy who is 6'6" weighs in at 271 and struggles to bench press in the top half of his TE class isnt going to suddenly run in the top10 fastest 40 times for TEs ever and third or fourth best vertical in 5 years

They are claiming he has Jimmy Graham type numbers but at 10+ lbs heavier after being fairly pedestrian at the combine

ASJ was lethargic and content under the supervision of Sark which will likely lead to a rude awakening at the next level. He doesn't know what it takes to be an elite TE because he didn't have the motivation from within and from his coaches at UW. He always looked pudgy & soft and quite frankly played that way too. He was never properly conditioned because he tended to lean on his natural ability instead of pushing himself to the next level, hence being 20 lbs overweight. You don't excel in the NFL with the habits he developed at UW.

In my eyes he never lived up to the hype that surrounded him when he committed to Washington.
There is a reason why two years ago Rob Rang said he would be a top-10 pick and now he's being projected into the 2nd and 3rd rounds, even after winning the Mackey Award this year. Reality has caught up to Austin. The DUI didn't help his stock either although I think he's done a good job moving on from that chapter of his life. Frankly, he never reached his true potential under the favoritism and coddling of Sark's tutelage.

His game speed feels more like 4.8 than 4.56. With that being said he does have an incredible catch radius that you can't teach and if he falls into the right situation I could see him making an impact. Talent has never been the problem; its a lack of motivation. He's still a Dawg and I'm going to be rooting for him in the NFL just like I do all Huskies who get the opportunity to play professional football. Who knows he might get lucky and have a real coach to guide him throughout his career.

However, if he had made the smart choice and converted to LT his freshman year, given his skill set we would likely be talking about him in the same breath as Robinson & Matthews, both consensus top10 picks in the upcoming draft. Instead, he stuck with TE and his draft stock has tilted downward along with his future salary earning potential. That ship has sailed.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

PurpleJ said:

The 4.56 is actually a 40 oz. time.

Is that while driving or before?

During. Hand timed.

Meek said:

pat_hm said:

ASJ was lethargic and content under the supervision of Sark which will likely lead to a rude awakening at the next level. He doesn't know what it takes to be an elite TE because he didn't have the motivation from within and from his coaches at UW. He always looked pudgy & soft and quite frankly played that way too. He was never properly conditioned because he tended to lean on his natural ability instead of pushing himself to the next level, hence being 20 lbs overweight. You don't excel in the NFL with the habits he developed at UW.

In my eyes he never lived up to the hype that surrounded him when he committed to Washington.
There is a reason why two years ago Rob Rang said he would be a top-10 pick and now he's being projected into the 2nd and 3rd rounds, even after winning the Mackey Award this year. Reality has caught up to Austin. The DUI didn't help his stock either although I think he's done a good job moving on from that chapter of his life. Frankly, he never reached his true potential under the favoritism and coddling of Sark's tutelage.

His game speed feels more like 4.8 than 4.56. With that being said he does have an incredible catch radius that you can't teach and if he falls into the right situation I could see him making an impact. Talent has never been the problem; its a lack of motivation. He's still a Dawg and I'm going to be rooting for him in the NFL just like I do all Huskies who get the opportunity to play professional football. Who knows he might get lucky and have a real coach to guide him throughout his career.

However, if he had made the smart choice and converted to LT his freshman year, given his skill set we would likely be talking about him in the same breath as Robinson & Matthews, both consensus top10 picks in the upcoming draft. Instead, he stuck with TE and his draft stock has tilted downward along with his future salary earning potential. That ship has sailed.

i agree however i never saw enough grit or toughness in him on the field that is required in the NFL so I'm skeptical that he can turn the odd ballerina catch into a fulltime TE gig.

ASJ was the anthesis of TUFF.

The_Undertaker said:

pat_hm said:

ASJ was lethargic and content under the supervision of Sark which will likely lead to a rude awakening at the next level. He doesn't know what it takes to be an elite TE because he didn't have the motivation from within and from his coaches at UW. He always looked pudgy & soft and quite frankly played that way too. He was never properly conditioned because he tended to lean on his natural ability instead of pushing himself to the next level, hence being 20 lbs overweight. You don't excel in the NFL with the habits he developed at UW.

In my eyes he never lived up to the hype that surrounded him when he committed to Washington.
There is a reason why two years ago Rob Rang said he would be a top-10 pick and now he's being projected into the 2nd and 3rd rounds, even after winning the Mackey Award this year. Reality has caught up to Austin. The DUI didn't help his stock either although I think he's done a good job moving on from that chapter of his life. Frankly, he never reached his true potential under the favoritism and coddling of Sark's tutelage.

His game speed feels more like 4.8 than 4.56. With that being said he does have an incredible catch radius that you can't teach and if he falls into the right situation I could see him making an impact. Talent has never been the problem; its a lack of motivation. He's still a Dawg and I'm going to be rooting for him in the NFL just like I do all Huskies who get the opportunity to play professional football. Who knows he might get lucky and have a real coach to guide him throughout his career.

However, if he had made the smart choice and converted to LT his freshman year, given his skill set we would likely be talking about him in the same breath as Robinson & Matthews, both consensus top10 picks in the upcoming draft. Instead, he stuck with TE and his draft stock has tilted downward along with his future salary earning potential. That ship has sailed.

Good poast but I disagree with the LT paragraph. He is already a lazy blocker lacking strength for his size at TE, I don't think he would have had the mentality required to be a lineman.

So very this.

This is me everytime people rip him as this soft TE (which he is) and then say the solution is he should have played the most physical position on the field: