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BREAKING: Baker County judge throws out Kate Browns extension of EO's

Kaepsknee
Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
Oregon Constitution requires Legislature to convene before any extension over 28 days.

Of course it will be appealed and one of 2 things will happen. It gets struck down by the Oregon Supreme Court. (highly unlikely imo) or Kate must convene the Legislature to extend all EO's.

https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2020/05/18/judge-invalidates-oregon-governors-stay-home-orders-allowing-churches-to-open/

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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Or, she rushes the OPEN door like everyone else right now under political cover
  • PandaOrangeChiknDuck
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    Oregon has hope?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Oregon has hope?

    Yep. The throttling at the hands of the Bucknuts ISN'T OVER!!!!!!
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Seems like the salon owner can shred the $14,000 fine and send it back to brownie.

    Not so fast my fren. There's no way the Supreme Court doesn't at least require the Legislature to convene. And 70% of them are Kate's minions.
  • PandaOrangeChiknDuck
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2020
    salemcoog said:

    Seems like the salon owner can shred the $14,000 fine and send it back to brownie.

    Not so fast my fren. There's no way the Supreme Court doesn't at least require the Legislature to convene. And 70% of them are Kate's minions.
    But isn't it off until all this happens? By the time the Supreme Court listens and rules, and by the time the legislation can approve, it could take weeks. If it takes a month to get it back in place, I would imagine putting it back on would be political suicide. Oregon ranks 41st in the nation in cases. They are barely above New Hampshire. They won't have a leg to stand on.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Seems like the salon owner can shred the $14,000 fine and send it back to brownie.

    Not so fast my fren. There's no way the Supreme Court doesn't at least require the Legislature to convene. And 70% of them are Kate's minions.
    But isn't it off until all this happens? By the time the Supreme Court listens and rules, and by the time the legislation can approve, it could take weeks. If it takes a month to get it back in place, I would imagine putting it back on would be political suicide. Oregon ranks 41st in the nation in cases. They are barely above New Hampshire. They won't have a leg to stand on.
    An emergency session has been called by the state Supreme court and a ruling is anticipated within 48 hours. Kate doesn't really care about what it does politically as A: She cant run for re election in 2022 and B: Multnomah County controls all of Oregon's elections with a voter rate of near 80% to anything with a D- next to it.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6893734-JudgeShirtlickrulingElkhornBaptChurchcase.html

    Basically he reasons that Brown wasn't required to invoke the statutory provisions she used, but having done so, she is limited to the 28 days contained in those provisions. Of course, it also looks as if she could have done all the same things and avoided the 28 day limitation under Oregon law through more artful drafting.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,658 Standard Supporter
    Gives her an out which is what she might want. If she had a rational proposed end to this fraud of a closure few would be complaining. She can blame it on the Court and Trump.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979

    HHusky said:

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6893734-JudgeShirtlickrulingElkhornBaptChurchcase.html

    Basically he reasons that Brown wasn't required to invoke the statutory provisions she used, but having done so, she is limited to the 28 days contained in those provisions. Of course, it also looks as if she could have done all the same things and avoided the 28 day limitation under Oregon law through more artful drafting.

    Then she a fucking moron. So ruled.
    That may be.

    I thought you might be more concerned that Oregon law actually allows for a governor to act without such a limitation.
  • PandaOrangeChiknDuck
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545

    salemcoog said:

    Seems like the salon owner can shred the $14,000 fine and send it back to brownie.

    Not so fast my fren. There's no way the Supreme Court doesn't at least require the Legislature to convene. And 70% of them are Kate's minions.
    Yeh fine happened when there was no legal authority for the shutdown. I guess the could re fine her.

    Also, the Republicans could refuse to show up, like they did with the climate change bills.
    That would be tasty
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited May 2020



    Also, the Republicans could refuse to show up, like they did with the climate change bills.


    True. Not sure how quorum rules would effect this.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:




    Also, the Republicans could refuse to show up, like they did with the climate change bills.


    True. Not sure how quorum rules would effect this.

    That would be hilarious
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,658 Standard Supporter
    Quorum rules still apply in special sessions. Lots of rural democratic Oregon senators and reps from the coast. No deaths in Clatsop County. Still zero deaths. Tough for a dem to vote to keep Clatsop County locked down. Might be enough votes to hang up an extension even if the Republicans show up.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Quorum rules still apply in special sessions. Lots of rural democratic Oregon senators and reps from the coast. No deaths in Clatsop County. Still zero deaths. Tough for a dem to vote to keep Clatsop County locked down. Might be enough votes to hang up an extension even if the Republicans show up.

    1) Scotty the Mr. GOP hasn’t stalked your post yet. He must be napping.
    2) Oregon legislature likely goes back to a basic Dem majority and not a super-majority. The Cascadia Cabal overplayed their hand. I don’t think voter fraud will help in rural and coastal Dem seats.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited May 2020
    Been workin the chats tonight and the OLCC, Lottery and Health Authority are still forbidding bars in the closed counties from opening. Also All licensed Lewis, er I mean Marion and Polk County hairdressers have received emails today that despite the courts decision, any that perform their services tomorrow are subject to suspension of their license from the State Cosmetology Board due to a provision slipped in on May 15 by Kate.

    But it’s not about control and politics. Both Marion and Polk County are to be re evaluated for opening on Thursday. Something tells me that isn’t going to happen. The torches are being filled and the pitchforks sharpened. Pretty sure this will be the breaking point.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    And just like that, the Oregon Supreme Court orders a stay on the ruling pending the appeal process. Authoritarianism is seemingly unstoppable to the delight of our resident bedwetters.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,303 Standard Supporter
    This is insanity.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,060 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2020
    So in one day the OR SC acted. Wow.

    I love this reasoning by the attorney for the bisexual clown that is the Gov.

    Only in liberal la la land where all the judges are liberal plants can the following possibly make sense to anyone.

    "Any time limits to the provisions for public health emergencies in state law "supplement rather than supplant'' the governor’s unlimited powers under her declaration of a state of emergency, he wrote"

    So time limits that are law are only there for no reason. FFS what a screwed up state.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,303 Standard Supporter
    “Supplement, rather than supplant”

    What a load of horseshit.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,060 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    “Supplement, rather than supplant”

    What a load of horseshit.

    So in other words, they used activist, biased judges to side step their own laws. This shit should alarm everyone. Remember how the rats have said that Trump was going to take over the country, postpone or cancel the upcoming elections. Refuse to leave office, blah, blah, blah. Well rats are doing the exact same thing they falsely accused Trump of doing. In OR they clearly believe that there is no end to the power of a far left Gov and her administration.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,137 Standard Supporter

    thechatch said:

    “Supplement, rather than supplant”

    What a load of horseshit.

    So in other words, they used activist, biased judges to side step their own laws. This shit should alarm everyone. Remember how the rats have said that Trump was going to take over the country, postpone or cancel the upcoming elections. Refuse to leave office, blah, blah, blah. Well rats are doing the exact same thing they falsely accused Trump of doing. In OR they clearly believe that there is no end to the power of a far left Gov and her administration.
    DOJ! DOJ! DOJ!

    Barr needs to get his shit together and start throwing down the hammer.

  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    So in one day the OR SC acted. Wow.

    I love this reasoning by the attorney for the bisexual clown that is the Gov.

    Only in liberal la la land where all the judges are liberal plants can the following possibly make sense to anyone.

    "Any time limits to the provisions for public health emergencies in state law "supplement rather than supplant'' the governor’s unlimited powers under her declaration of a state of emergency, he wrote"

    So time limits that are law are only there for no reason. FFS what a screwed up state.

    They have not ruled but only issued a stay until the rule. However 5 of the 7 are Brown appointees.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,206 Founders Club

    thechatch said:

    “Supplement, rather than supplant”

    What a load of horseshit.

    So in other words, they used activist, biased judges to side step their own laws. This shit should alarm everyone. Remember how the rats have said that Trump was going to take over the country, postpone or cancel the upcoming elections. Refuse to leave office, blah, blah, blah. Well rats are doing the exact same thing they falsely accused Trump of doing. In OR they clearly believe that there is no end to the power of a far left Gov and her administration.
    Seems like Brown should continue her powers until the climate change crisis is averted.