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AANDY says Lambo should've read "Team of Rivals" to keep from being fired

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club
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Someone might want to tell AANDY that the book was published in 2006.
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  • SweatpantsGeneral
    SweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,161 Founders Club
    Books About Lincoln Publishing Date Superiority Guy..........




















    BTW, it was first published in 2005. ........SUCK IT!!!!! Who's the master now???!?!?!?!?!!1!1
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club
    Damn it
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    It's funny for all the shit Lambo gets, he is still the 2nd best coach we've had in the past 20 years.
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,313
    As my dad would say... "Fuckin Mormons."
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,313
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    It's funny for all the shit Lambo gets, he is still the 2nd best coach we've had in the past 20 years.

    I would say 30
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,147
    I can't decide between Sark and Lambo. They both sucked.
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  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774
    Thought provoking as always ...
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    edited April 2014
    MikeDamone said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I can't decide between Sark and Lambo. They both sucked.

    Lambo had a Pac-10 championship. Sark's best year was 5-4 in conference.
    Lambo did less with more. That 1996 and 1997 team's that tied for a pac 10 title and lost the holiday bowl and Aloha bowls were he most talented team of the last 20 years. And Lambo stumbled into 7 and 9 wins.
    It was the 95 Sun Bowl team that won the Pac-10. Now let's never talk about 95 again.

    Also, the argument that Lambo did less with more is true, but you could say the same for Sark, especially when you consider a team that had Locker, Polk, Kearse, Ta'amu, DTN, Bulter, Foster, and Trufant had a losing record.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,147
    edited April 2014
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    MikeDamone said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I can't decide between Sark and Lambo. They both sucked.

    Lambo had a Pac-10 championship. Sark's best year was 5-4 in conference.
    Lambo did less with more. That 1996 and 1997 team's that tied for a pac 10 title and lost the holiday bowl and Aloha bowls were he most talented team of the last 20 years. And Lambo stumbled into 7 and 9 wins.
    It was the 95 Sun Bowl team that won the Pac-10. Now let's never talk about 95 again.

    Also, the argument that Lambo did less with more is true, but you could say the same for Sark, especially when you consider a team that had Locker, Polk, Kearse, Ta'amu, DTN, Bulter, Foster, and Trufant had a losing record.
    In hindsight, the 2009 team could have won more games. I still think that was Sark's best year coaching though. It was his best year recruiting too. 7 OL and 5 DL, a top 20 class, even after 0-12. He didn't improve at all after that year. That's the troubling part, and why he sucked. The learning on the job stuff is bullshit, especially when it comes to on field coaching.

    The 2009 team should have won 5-6 games. The definitely should have beat Notre Dame and UCLA. ASU was another winnable game, and Sark's play calling was terrible on the last drive. Letting a guy get behind you is unforgivable as well, but the game was going into OT if ASU didn't complete that pass, so you can't count that as a game that should have been won. It was a horribly coached game though.

    On the flip side, the Arizona game was lucky, Cal completey laid down to close out the season, and USC would have won if anyone but Aaron Corp started the game at QB. 5-7 was a pretty good indicator of the talent on the team. There were some very good players, but there were also players in the lineup that had no business being Pac 10 starters. Darrion Jones and Talia Crichton rotated at one DE spot. The secondary consisted of Trufant (FR), Richardson, Long, Nate Williams, Fellner/Glenn. That's a bad secondary, bordering on dreckfest. The OL had Ossai, Greg Christine, Nick Wood, and a freshman Drew Schaeffer. It was a far better team than doogs like to admit (we all know it wasn't a true 0-12 team), but it also wasn't all that great.
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,679 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2014
    Lambo did about average with the talent they had in '95 and '96, with two embarrassing loses (Sun Bowel va. Iowa and '96 ND). Average doesn't mean he did well, it only means they didn't massively underachieve.

    The other four years he underachieved. I remember Rondeau making excuses for him after the '93 season (hi Chest!). He said it was a 7-8 win team. Even as a teen I wasn't buying it.

    Anyway, it's Bitchcunt Babs' fault for keeping the loyal ass't around too long.

    Sark had two acceptable, yet not great years to begin, then stalled out. I give him the slight edge for leaving the program with eight wins.
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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Lambo did about average with the talent they had in '95 and '96, with two embarrassing loses (Sun Bowel va. Iowa and '96 ND). Average doesn't mean he did well, it only means they didn't massively underachieve.

    The other four years he underachieved. I remember Rondeau making excuses for him after the '93 season (hi Chest!). He said it was a 7-8 win team. Even as a teen I wasn't buying it.

    Anyway, it's Bitchcunt Babs' fault for keeping the loyal ass't around too long.

    Sark had two acceptable, yet not great years to begin, then stalled out. I give him the slight edge for leaving the program with eight wins.

    Even though I'm a Duck fan, I lived in Seattle during those years (lots of places to park my seaplane) and some of my good friends were Husky season ticket holders.

    The story I heard was that Babs didn't like Lambo, and refused to give him the budget he wanted to hire the assistants he wanted to hire. He was forced to field a team with great talent, but mediocre assistant coaches.
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  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    HNMT made the great point that once Lambo didn't have top notch talent (1998) he was badly exposed.

    And @dnc‌ is correct. Petersen by what he has already done is the 2nd best. Now lets see if he can match or come close to what DJ achieved.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,147
    edited April 2014
    Found this article online. I found one quote from Lambright to be very interesting and something I completely disagree with.

    Asked if he felt betrayed, Lambright said: "No, hurt is a better word. Thirty years deserves a little more. . . . I had the idea I would be around here almost as long as I wanted to be."

    You gotta fucking win, Lambright. The UW didn't owe you anything if you aren't performing to the level of expectation. At the time, Rose Bowls were the expectation. 7-4 with 11 NFL players and 6-6 were not cutting it. Maybe it was because my two dads formed a lot of my opinions on Husky Football, but I hated losing as a kid and was glad when Lambright was fired. This article just cemented how great the firing was.

    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19981230&slug=2936208
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Good stuff RE:Lambo and Sark.

    I'd say Lambo was slightly better than Sark only because he valued OL/DL play with his recruiting.

    However the Lambo era gave me more heartbreak than the last dreckfest decade ever did.

    Sark fucked us out of 9-10 win seasons, Lambo fucked us over out of Rose Bowls/National titles.

    In his six years minimum with a Petermen or James you are talking three Rose Bowls probably four.

    Anyways good thread but thinking about the Lambo years makes me want to drink a 5th of Jack Daniels now.....CHRIST!
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,679 Standard Supporter
    That '98 season was shit. They started out pretty well (5-2?), but that Nebraska loss was totally unacceptable. The conference wasn't that great then with SC being down and OSU, WSU and the Bay Area schools all being nothing. You can't limp down the stretch, then get thumped by Ground Force.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    edited April 2014
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Found this article online. I found one quote from Lambright to be very interesting and something I completely disagree with.

    Asked if he felt betrayed, Lambright said: "No, hurt is a better word. Thirty years deserves a little more. . . . I had the idea I would be around here almost as long as I wanted to be."

    You gotta fucking win, Lambright. The UW didn't owe you anything if you aren't performing to the level of expectation. At the time, Rose Bowls were the expectation. 7-4 with 11 NFL players and 6-6 were not cutting it. Maybe it was because my two dads formed a lot of my opinions on Husky Football, but I hated losing as a kid and was glad when Lambright was fired. This article just cemented how great the firing was.

    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19981230&slug=2936208

    Fuckin' A.

    Guess that explains a lot.

    Here is some more bullshit from that article ... fucking amazing ...

    "I'm tremendously surprised and shocked," Lambright said. "It was only a few weeks ago I was given a validation for at least next year. I was warned two weeks ago that there would be a meeting. I should have been more political, I guess. "

    NO mother fucker, maybe you shouldn't have rested on your $200,000 a year salary thinking the good times would never end and started winning some fucking games.

    6 and fucking 6 after taking over the top school in the Pac just 7 years earlier ...

    Fuck off.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068
    OZONE said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Lambo did about average with the talent they had in '95 and '96, with two embarrassing loses (Sun Bowel va. Iowa and '96 ND). Average doesn't mean he did well, it only means they didn't massively underachieve.

    The other four years he underachieved. I remember Rondeau making excuses for him after the '93 season (hi Chest!). He said it was a 7-8 win team. Even as a teen I wasn't buying it.

    Anyway, it's Bitchcunt Babs' fault for keeping the loyal ass't around too long.

    Sark had two acceptable, yet not great years to begin, then stalled out. I give him the slight edge for leaving the program with eight wins.

    Even though I'm a Duck fan, I lived in Seattle during those years (lots of places to park my seaplane) and some of my good friends were Husky season ticket holders.

    The story I heard was that Babs didn't like Lambo, and refused to give him the budget he wanted to hire the assistants he wanted to hire. He was forced to field a team with great talent, but mediocre assistant coaches.
    well, that much is true: she did not like Lambo. the question is, why? well, the story I have is that it involved some off-field shenanigans in the department ... shenanigans that you only get away with when you're winning titles. he wasn't winning titles. so he didn't get away with it.

    PS: by the time you're bitching about budgets and assistants, you should be door ass out. But whatever; I don't think that was it.
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    Anyway, the whole point of this thread is that both Lambo and Sark sucked.

    Thank God we have Petersen now.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    AAAANDY is stupid. That is all.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    MikeDamone said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I can't decide between Sark and Lambo. They both sucked.

    Lambo had a Pac-10 championship. Sark's best year was 5-4 in conference.
    Lambo did less with more. That 1996 and 1997 team's that tied for a pac 10 title and lost the holiday bowl and Aloha bowls were he most talented team of the last 20 years. And Lambo stumbled into 7 and 9 wins.
    It was the 95 Sun Bowl team that won the Pac-10. Now let's never talk about 95 again.

    Also, the argument that Lambo did less with more is true, but you could say the same for Sark, especially when you consider a team that had Locker, Polk, Kearse, Ta'amu, DTN, Bulter, Foster, and Trufant had a losing record.
    You're right,should have said 1995 and 1996.

    And yes, the same can be said for Sark....that truth and the lack of a forum to express it, is the reason this place exists.
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