Salem, OR vs Seattle
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Science.
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Pitching a tent and shitting wherever you want to has become normalized. Easier to say it's high cost of living than it is to say it's accepted.
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Because it’s not. That’s a left wing talking point to shift blame from their shitty policies to the “greedy developers” and capitalism. I assume your question was rhetorical.YellowSnow said:I spend a fair bit of time down in Salem because of my in-laws. The place is every bit as overrun with homeless layabouts as Seattle and yet it's a dirt cheap place to live. So how can the high cost of living allegedly be a major contributor to homelessness in Seattle, but not in Salem?
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Here in Oregon we are voting on a 1% sales tax and a 1% income tax to "solve" homelessness. People are homeless because most are mentally ill, drug addicts or alcoholics or all three. Obviously not having a job makes paying the rent tough whether its $2000 a month or $500 a month. If you have a rat problem, feeding the rats doesn't solve the rat problem. For a leftard, that is a concept that they can't grasp. They also can't grasp the concept that destroying millions of small businesses might also have consequences.
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MikeDamone said:
Because it’s not. That’s a left wing talking point to shift blame from their shitty policies to the “greedy developers” and capitalism. I assume your question was rhetorical.YellowSnow said:I spend a fair bit of time down in Salem because of my in-laws. The place is every bit as overrun with homeless layabouts as Seattle and yet it's a dirt cheap place to live. So how can the high cost of living allegedly be a major contributor to homelessness in Seattle, but not in Salem?
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Thank you Yellowsnow for reminding me that it is wonderful not having to watch and listen to that nattering numskull speak every day.
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The Throbber knows way too much about homeless issues, programs and resources allocated thereto....that said (Jake Browning still sucks), there will ALWAYS be a segment of the population who gives no fucks and no matter what, they'll be homeless.YellowSnow said:I spend a fair bit of time down in Salem because of my in-laws. The place is every bit as overrun with homeless layabouts as Seattle and yet it's a dirt cheap place to live. So how can the high cost of living allegedly be a major contributor to homelessness in Seattle, but not in Salem?
The problem the lefties don't understand is that they think utopia exists and will frame their arguments with 100% perfection in mind - when that ain't ever gonna happen no way no how. So, to answer your question, the lefties in Seattle choose to lie more creatively than their counterparts in Salem and blame the evil capitalists/landlord/high cost of living because they can.
If Salem had a high cost of living, they'd be running that play as well. But even lefties aren't that fucking obtuse.
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I-5 runs straight the middle of it. Many freebies from faith based charities and other organizations. High tolerance for low barrier behavior and a lack of political will to do nothing but kow tow to them. Most of the Homeless here are from somewhere else.YellowSnow said:I spend a fair bit of time down in Salem because of my in-laws. The place is every bit as overrun with homeless layabouts as Seattle and yet it's a dirt cheap place to live. So how can the high cost of living allegedly be a major contributor to homelessness in Seattle, but not in Salem?
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@Swaye, true?WestlinnDuck said:Here in Oregon we are voting on a 1% sales tax and a 1% income tax to "solve" homelessness. People are homeless because most are mentally ill, drug addicts or alcoholics or all three. Obviously not having a job makes paying the rent tough whether its $2000 a month or $500 a month. If you have a rat problem, feeding the rats doesn't solve the rat problem. For a leftard, that is a concept that they can't grasp. They also can't grasp the concept that destroying millions of small businesses might also have consequences.
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It's a peripheral problem, at best. I'm sure high housing costs cause *some* increases in homelessness, but it doesn't make sense that Seattle would bear the brunt of that (the displacement would logically flow to neighboring cities with lower COL), and it certainly doesn't account for the massive numbers of homelessness Seattle is seeing.
The problem has and remains a fun mixture of mental health issues and drug addiction. Seattle itself isn't going to fix that problem on its own, and it's a wide-scale zero sum game that needs to be addressed at the federal and state levels. But the city seems determined to shoot itself in the foot and become a beacon of tolerance for every troubled soul who can get themself a bus ticket. Which is ironic, because the more Seattle decides to become the haven for the country's homeless, the less of a problem it is in other municipalities and the less incentive other places have to contribute to a larger solution.
