Robert Wyrsch, 2021 3* OL, Soquel (HS), CA (Committed)

RoadDawg55 said:

BeerThirty said:

This kid probably won't see the field until he is a rsjr. By that time he could be an absolute stud. With the depth we have at this moment, I think this is a true high reward project that they can afford to take on.

How many kids don’t play until their RSJR year and are actually good? I’d put it at a very low percentage. It’s kind of a cliche saying. Year 3 is the latest a good player sees the field.

If kids like Buelow, Kelepo, and Rosengarten pan out for us, he probably doesn't see the field till he is a JR

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Baseman said:

RoadDawg55 said:

BeerThirty said:

This kid probably won't see the field until he is a rsjr. By that time he could be an absolute stud. With the depth we have at this moment, I think this is a true high reward project that they can afford to take on.

How many kids don’t play until their RSJR year and are actually good? I’d put it at a very low percentage. It’s kind of a cliche saying. Year 3 is the latest a good player sees the field.

Agreed. RS-SO ideally for a lineman, when accounting for two years of weights, roids, and quality stacked upper classes.

This is more like a 70% accurate thing

I dont think Hilbers played til injury forced him to and he did well as an RS JR

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Baseman said:

RoadDawg55 said:

BeerThirty said:

This kid probably won't see the field until he is a rsjr. By that time he could be an absolute stud. With the depth we have at this moment, I think this is a true high reward project that they can afford to take on.

How many kids don’t play until their RSJR year and are actually good? I’d put it at a very low percentage. It’s kind of a cliche saying. Year 3 is the latest a good player sees the field.

Agreed. RS-SO ideally for a lineman, when accounting for two years of weights, roids, and quality stacked upper classes.

This is more like a 70% accurate thing

I dont think Hilbers played til injury forced him to and he did well as an RS JR

He was the person I was thinking of

TTJ said:

RoadDawg55 said:

BeerThirty said:

This kid probably won't see the field until he is a rsjr. By that time he could be an absolute stud. With the depth we have at this moment, I think this is a true high reward project that they can afford to take on.

How many kids don’t play until their RSJR year and are actually good? I’d put it at a very low percentage. It’s kind of a cliche saying. Year 3 is the latest a good player sees the field.

Depends how well you're recruiting, right?

This was the typical pattern 30 years ago. But didn't we see a bunch of breakout upperclassmen under Petersen? I'm thinking about guys like Tupou, Hudson, Littleton, O'Brien, even (trigger warning) Wooching. Apart from Littleton, none of these guys was a world beater. But they all played sparingly until late in their careers and all wound up becoming significant contributors.

They gotta be in the two deeps by their R-So year at minimum. A lot of guys you listed weren’t that good. Littleton is the best of the bunch and he played a ton his freshman and sophomore years before being a rotation player his junior year.

Hilbers was a good call. He was behind two All Conference players that were basically the same age and wouldn’t have seen the field at all his junior year if Adams didn’t get hurt.

Bain has only filled in his first three years and will probably be good.

There are exceptions, but there are still very few players that are good that sit for very long.

TTJ said:

D Turpin
Z Turner
D Daniels
J Perkins
J Mathis
C Shelton
D Campbell
Jaylen J
Shane B

Again, not world beaters. But late career contributors.

Even Kev and Lavon didn’t *really* turn it on until their junior years, right?

Definitely not.

Did either of them redshirt though?

TTJ said:

D Turpin
Z Turner
D Daniels
J Perkins
J Mathis
C Shelton
D Campbell
Jaylen J
Shane B

Again, not world beaters. But late career contributors.

Even Kev and Lavon didn’t *really* turn it on until their junior years, right?

Almost all those guys played early. Coleman Shelton was filling in and starting games as a freshman. Perkins was behind ASJ and did well once he was gone. Daniels was still only playing probably 50% or less of the snaps at TE as a senior. Not really any different from when he was a sophomore. Breaking out as a junior or senior is different than not playing at all before their junior year.

If you have studs in front of you, then it is possible to be buried before breaking out. The reality is tho, most of those guys will either transfer or get passed up by guys younger than them.