ESPN Releases Top 10 ‘Running Back U’ Programs - Oregon makes the list but UW doesn't
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ESPN likes to hang off of Oregon's sack. The Nike effect.
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Not just Nike, but the fact that the Oregon mascot is literally a Disney character arranged through a special licensing agreement.
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It also dates to the dawn of the BCS era, so Huge McEllemacphereon doesn’t count. My? Bigger beef was this.
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Who are UW’s top 3 QBs and RBs during the BCS/CFP era (‘99-present)?
I’ve got Tuiasosopo-Pickett-Price, Gaskin-Polk-Sankey. -
Any top 3 QB list without Jack H Lockner can LEAVE!!1!
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Only Jake I even considered was Skinny.
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What's the criteria? First it's BCS era, then the retard trying to suck off USC and Georgia brings in "all time" guys. Herschel Walker and OJ Simpson are well pre-BCS.
Normally, _______________ U discussions center around who was good in college AND the NFL, with a focus on the latter.
As such, Wisky falls off. Historically their backs don't translate to the NFL.
When was the last time USC produced a great, or even productive, NFL back? They've had a few in the BCS era who were good in college, but not at the next level. SC hasn't produced a great NFL running back since Marcus Allen. Reggie Bush and Lendale White were complete NFL busts; White was a massive bust. For all hype of Pete's recruiting during their run, there is a lot of show and not a lot of go. Even the all-time list of Heisman tailbacks isn't so shiny when you consider NFL careers. Anthony Davis, Ricky Bell and Charles White didn't do shit in the NFL. Garrett had a respectable, but hardly noteworthy, NFL run. They really benefit from the shine of OJ, Allen and Giff.
If it's BCS-forward era, Miami should be higher on the list. I'm open to other arguments, but I'm struggling to find a school that was as productive as Miami during that defined time: Edgerinn James, Clinton Portis, Lamar Miller, Frank Gore & Willis McGahee. Duke Johnson isn't a full time guy, but gets carries and passes thrown his way.
If it's all-time, that changes things a bit. Florida gets into the conversation with guys like Emitt Smith, John L Williams, Neal Anderson, Fred Taylor and Eric Rhett, all of whom were pro bowl level players in the NFL. -
What's the argument though?BeerThirty said:ESPN likes to hang off of Oregon's sack. The Nike effect.
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Weird, right? Wisco backs never seem as great when running behind a different line.creepycoug said:As such, Wisky falls off. Historically their backs don't translate to the NFL.
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I’m amused, but not at all surprised, that ESPN managed to omit Stanford (McCaffrey-Gerhart-Love) from their RB list. The Tree trio is arguably #1.
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The only way I can even somewhat justify these rankings, is if they're doing them solely off of how they played in college. If they're factoring in the NFL, these are completely out to lunch.
For the QB rankings, the player listed from a school in the Top 5 that actually had a good career was Palmer, but even he didn't really live up to expectations.
Oregon at 3 is laughable, and Texas at #4 is even worse. Between the 2 there isn't a single QB that had a good NFL career, although obviously Herbert still has a chance to change that.
The RB list isn't as bad, except for the fact that Miami is the undisputed #1, and that Georgia should probably be in the Top 3. -
ESPN sucks - they love flash and then more flash. but not the pac-11 (everyone other than the ducks)
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They're usually pretty friendly to USC too, but that aside, you're right.LebamDawg said:ESPN sucks - they love flash and then more flash. but not the pac-11 (everyone other than the ducks)
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UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has -
If they're going off of NFL production, Dillon alone puts UW over most of the teams on that list. He was the best RB in the league for a number of years in the late 90's/early 2000'shaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has -
Stewart, Blount, & Jameshaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has -
Why do people always forget Bongterrio?creepycoug said:
Stewart, Blount, & Jameshaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has -
Fair. If we're going to list Polk and Sankey, Smith makes the list.IPukeOregonGrellow said:
Why do people always forget Bongterrio?creepycoug said:
Stewart, Blount, & Jameshaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has -
Well, Dillon would be alone because polk and sankey did nothing. Gaskin hasn't had a chance yet, so jury is out. If you count him, I guess you have to count Freeman for Oregon, since he gets carries in Denver.WillyRBeek said:
If they're going off of NFL production, Dillon alone puts UW over most of the teams on that list. He was the best RB in the league for a number of years in the late 90's/early 2000'shaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has -
Bring on the fuck off votes, but Browning won a lot more and had better stats than both Picket and especially Price.TTJ said:Who are UW’s top 3 QBs and RBs during the BCS/CFP era (‘99-present)?
I’ve got Tuiasosopo-Pickett-Price, Gaskin-Polk-Sankey. -
Lendale White wasn’t a massive bust. Maybe a slight disappointment, but RB’s have short careers. Leading the NFL in TD’s and also having a 1,000+ yard season for a 2nd round pick isn’t being a massive disappointment.creepycoug said:What's the criteria? First it's BCS era, then the retard trying to suck off USC and Georgia brings in "all time" guys. Herschel Walker and OJ Simpson are well pre-BCS.
Normally, _______________ U discussions center around who was good in college AND the NFL, with a focus on the latter.
As such, Wisky falls off. Historically their backs don't translate to the NFL.
When was the last time USC produced a great, or even productive, NFL back? They've had a few in the BCS era who were good in college, but not at the next level. SC hasn't produced a great NFL running back since Marcus Allen. Reggie Bush and Lendale White were complete NFL busts; White was a massive bust. For all hype of Pete's recruiting during their run, there is a lot of show and not a lot of go. Even the all-time list of Heisman tailbacks isn't so shiny when you consider NFL careers. Anthony Davis, Ricky Bell and Charles White didn't do shit in the NFL. Garrett had a respectable, but hardly noteworthy, NFL run. They really benefit from the shine of OJ, Allen and Giff.
If it's BCS-forward era, Miami should be higher on the list. I'm open to other arguments, but I'm struggling to find a school that was as productive as Miami during that defined time: Edgerinn James, Clinton Portis, Lamar Miller, Frank Gore & Willis McGahee. Duke Johnson isn't a full time guy, but gets carries and passes thrown his way.
If it's all-time, that changes things a bit. Florida gets into the conversation with guys like Emitt Smith, John L Williams, Neal Anderson, Fred Taylor and Eric Rhett, all of whom were pro bowl level players in the NFL. -
I'll split the difference with you. 45th pick in the draft is not a flyer pick. That's someone you expect to have a career. His best season, by far, he cracks 1,000 yards on over 303 carries. Each of the other seasons he was a non-factor. So, I'll back off "massive" bust, and you do better than "slight disappointment". Axe the people in Tennessee if they were slightly disappointed.RoadDawg55 said:
Lendale White wasn’t a massive bust. Maybe a slight disappointment, but RB’s have short careers. Leading the NFL in TD’s and also having a 1,000+ yard season for a 2nd round pick isn’t being a massive disappointment.creepycoug said:What's the criteria? First it's BCS era, then the retard trying to suck off USC and Georgia brings in "all time" guys. Herschel Walker and OJ Simpson are well pre-BCS.
Normally, _______________ U discussions center around who was good in college AND the NFL, with a focus on the latter.
As such, Wisky falls off. Historically their backs don't translate to the NFL.
When was the last time USC produced a great, or even productive, NFL back? They've had a few in the BCS era who were good in college, but not at the next level. SC hasn't produced a great NFL running back since Marcus Allen. Reggie Bush and Lendale White were complete NFL busts; White was a massive bust. For all hype of Pete's recruiting during their run, there is a lot of show and not a lot of go. Even the all-time list of Heisman tailbacks isn't so shiny when you consider NFL careers. Anthony Davis, Ricky Bell and Charles White didn't do shit in the NFL. Garrett had a respectable, but hardly noteworthy, NFL run. They really benefit from the shine of OJ, Allen and Giff.
If it's BCS-forward era, Miami should be higher on the list. I'm open to other arguments, but I'm struggling to find a school that was as productive as Miami during that defined time: Edgerinn James, Clinton Portis, Lamar Miller, Frank Gore & Willis McGahee. Duke Johnson isn't a full time guy, but gets carries and passes thrown his way.
If it's all-time, that changes things a bit. Florida gets into the conversation with guys like Emitt Smith, John L Williams, Neal Anderson, Fred Taylor and Eric Rhett, all of whom were pro bowl level players in the NFL.
2009 Tennessee Titans 13 64 4.9 222 3.5 17.1 2 11 11 17.2 0 0 1
2008 Tennessee Titans 16 200 12.5 773 3.9 48.3 15 80T 43 21.5 4 2 0
2007 Tennessee Titans 16 303 18.9 1,110 3.7 69.4 7 28 57 18.8 4 0 5
2006 Tennessee Titans 13 61 4.7 244 4.0 18.8 0 26 13 21.3 1 0 0
TOTAL 58 628 10.8 2,349 3.7 40.5 24 80 124 19.7 9 2 6 -
Dillon alone wouldn't because he didn't play in the BCS era.creepycoug said:
Well, Dillon would be alone because polk and sankey did nothing. Gaskin hasn't had a chance yet, so jury is out. If you count him, I guess you have to count Freeman for Oregon, since he gets carries in Denver.WillyRBeek said:
If they're going off of NFL production, Dillon alone puts UW over most of the teams on that list. He was the best RB in the league for a number of years in the late 90's/early 2000'shaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has
The comprehensive list of running backs who've been worth their salt in the NFL from the Pac-10/12 in that time frame are:
Steven Jackson
Marshawn
Maurice Jones-Drew
Reggie Bush
Lendale White
Stewart
Blount
Reuben Droughns
McCaffrey
Lindsay
Tell me more about how this conference is screwed? -
Bring on the fuck off votes, but Browning won a lot more and had better stats than both Picket and especially Price.TTJ said:Who are UW’s top 3 QBs and RBs during the BCS/CFP era (‘99-present)?
I’ve got Tuiasosopo-Pickett-Price, Gaskin-Polk-Sankey.
He also had to share time with Chris Johnson who was once probably the best RB in the entire league. White was lazy and too fat to sustain a career. I think it was more of a case where he was too big and just fast enough in college, but too big and slow for the NFL.creepycoug said:
I'll split the difference with you. 45th pick in the draft is not a flyer pick. That's someone you expect to have a career. His best season, by far, he cracks 1,000 yards on over 303 carries. Each of the other seasons he was a non-factor. So, I'll back off "massive" bust, and you do better than "slight disappointment". Axe the people in Tennessee if they were slightly disappointed.RoadDawg55 said:
Lendale White wasn’t a massive bust. Maybe a slight disappointment, but RB’s have short careers. Leading the NFL in TD’s and also having a 1,000+ yard season for a 2nd round pick isn’t being a massive disappointment.creepycoug said:What's the criteria? First it's BCS era, then the retard trying to suck off USC and Georgia brings in "all time" guys. Herschel Walker and OJ Simpson are well pre-BCS.
Normally, _______________ U discussions center around who was good in college AND the NFL, with a focus on the latter.
As such, Wisky falls off. Historically their backs don't translate to the NFL.
When was the last time USC produced a great, or even productive, NFL back? They've had a few in the BCS era who were good in college, but not at the next level. SC hasn't produced a great NFL running back since Marcus Allen. Reggie Bush and Lendale White were complete NFL busts; White was a massive bust. For all hype of Pete's recruiting during their run, there is a lot of show and not a lot of go. Even the all-time list of Heisman tailbacks isn't so shiny when you consider NFL careers. Anthony Davis, Ricky Bell and Charles White didn't do shit in the NFL. Garrett had a respectable, but hardly noteworthy, NFL run. They really benefit from the shine of OJ, Allen and Giff.
If it's BCS-forward era, Miami should be higher on the list. I'm open to other arguments, but I'm struggling to find a school that was as productive as Miami during that defined time: Edgerinn James, Clinton Portis, Lamar Miller, Frank Gore & Willis McGahee. Duke Johnson isn't a full time guy, but gets carries and passes thrown his way.
If it's all-time, that changes things a bit. Florida gets into the conversation with guys like Emitt Smith, John L Williams, Neal Anderson, Fred Taylor and Eric Rhett, all of whom were pro bowl level players in the NFL.
2009 Tennessee Titans 13 64 4.9 222 3.5 17.1 2 11 11 17.2 0 0 1
2008 Tennessee Titans 16 200 12.5 773 3.9 48.3 15 80T 43 21.5 4 2 0
2007 Tennessee Titans 16 303 18.9 1,110 3.7 69.4 7 28 57 18.8 4 0 5
2006 Tennessee Titans 13 61 4.7 244 4.0 18.8 0 26 13 21.3 1 0 0
TOTAL 58 628 10.8 2,349 3.7 40.5 24 80 124 19.7 9 2 6 -
Forsett had a long good career as a backup and even popped off for 1200 as a Starter late in his career for Bmore.IPukeOregonGrellow said:
Dillon alone wouldn't because he didn't play in the BCS era.creepycoug said:
Well, Dillon would be alone because polk and sankey did nothing. Gaskin hasn't had a chance yet, so jury is out. If you count him, I guess you have to count Freeman for Oregon, since he gets carries in Denver.WillyRBeek said:
If they're going off of NFL production, Dillon alone puts UW over most of the teams on that list. He was the best RB in the league for a number of years in the late 90's/early 2000'shaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has
The comprehensive list of running backs who've been worth their salt in the NFL from the Pac-10/12 in that time frame are:
Steven Jackson
Marshawn
Maurice Jones-Drew
Reggie Bush
Lendale White
Stewart
Blount
Reuben Droughns
McCaffrey
Lindsay
Tell me more about how this conference is screwed?
Cal players that make it tend to do shockingly well in the NFL. Legit superstars in Marshawn, Rodgers, and Desean Jackson. -
Pickett was a better QB. Way better passing skillsRoadDawg55 said:
Bring on the fuck off votes, but Browning won a lot more and had better stats than both Picket and especially Price.TTJ said:Who are UW’s top 3 QBs and RBs during the BCS/CFP era (‘99-present)?
I’ve got Tuiasosopo-Pickett-Price, Gaskin-Polk-Sankey.
True. Tony Gonzalez, Aaron Rodgers, etc.Doogles said:
Forsett had a long good career as a backup and even popped off for 1200 as a Starter late in his career for Bmore.IPukeOregonGrellow said:
Dillon alone wouldn't because he didn't play in the BCS era.creepycoug said:
Well, Dillon would be alone because polk and sankey did nothing. Gaskin hasn't had a chance yet, so jury is out. If you count him, I guess you have to count Freeman for Oregon, since he gets carries in Denver.WillyRBeek said:
If they're going off of NFL production, Dillon alone puts UW over most of the teams on that list. He was the best RB in the league for a number of years in the late 90's/early 2000'shaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has
The comprehensive list of running backs who've been worth their salt in the NFL from the Pac-10/12 in that time frame are:
Steven Jackson
Marshawn
Maurice Jones-Drew
Reggie Bush
Lendale White
Stewart
Blount
Reuben Droughns
McCaffrey
Lindsay
Tell me more about how this conference is screwed?
Cal players that make it tend to do shockingly well in the NFL. Legit superstars in Marshawn, Rodgers, and Desean Jackson. -
didnt blount miss all (most?) of his senior year cause he sucker punched that bjc player?creepycoug said:
Stewart, Blount, & Jameshaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has
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They have some really good pros. I just looked it up. Keenan Allen, Cam Jordan, Mitchel Schwartz. Pro Bowlers. Goff is another. I didn’t realize how the quality of their players in the league. It’s gotta be the best in the PAC 12.creepycoug said:
Pickett was a better QB. Way better passing skillsRoadDawg55 said:
Bring on the fuck off votes, but Browning won a lot more and had better stats than both Picket and especially Price.TTJ said:Who are UW’s top 3 QBs and RBs during the BCS/CFP era (‘99-present)?
I’ve got Tuiasosopo-Pickett-Price, Gaskin-Polk-Sankey.
True. Tony Gonzalez, Aaron Rodgers, etc.Doogles said:
Forsett had a long good career as a backup and even popped off for 1200 as a Starter late in his career for Bmore.IPukeOregonGrellow said:
Dillon alone wouldn't because he didn't play in the BCS era.creepycoug said:
Well, Dillon would be alone because polk and sankey did nothing. Gaskin hasn't had a chance yet, so jury is out. If you count him, I guess you have to count Freeman for Oregon, since he gets carries in Denver.WillyRBeek said:
If they're going off of NFL production, Dillon alone puts UW over most of the teams on that list. He was the best RB in the league for a number of years in the late 90's/early 2000'shaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has
The comprehensive list of running backs who've been worth their salt in the NFL from the Pac-10/12 in that time frame are:
Steven Jackson
Marshawn
Maurice Jones-Drew
Reggie Bush
Lendale White
Stewart
Blount
Reuben Droughns
McCaffrey
Lindsay
Tell me more about how this conference is screwed?
Cal players that make it tend to do shockingly well in the NFL. Legit superstars in Marshawn, Rodgers, and Desean Jackson.
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ESPN puts out lists that have to include the schools that have fans that make the most comments on their website articles. Also, they include people who actually commented and liked ESPN "The Magazine"rodmansrage said:
didnt blount miss all (most?) of his senior year cause he sucker punched that bjc player?creepycoug said:
Stewart, Blount, & Jameshaie said:UW has dillon, polk, Sankey, mmfg.
Oregon has
is this espn taek going off of nfl production?
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If this is “all time” to leave out GA is FS.
Shit list, shit writer.
