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Netflix CEO in 2013: “The goal is to become HBO faster than HBO can become us.”

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,197 Founders Club
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter
    Prime is going to beat them both.

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  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,774 Founders Club
    Netflix puts out some awful garbage which drags it down.
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    Prime is going to beat them both.

    That have some big money projects in the works. If they hit on their LotR or WoT series they could go big time. They already have a handful of top tier shows.

    If they would fix the fucking UI though, that would be great...
    I switched to a fire stick and it’s better. Or I just tell alexa to find shit.

    Prime is my go to documentary source. Way better than Netflix.
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  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,703 Standard Supporter
    screw HBO and Netflix
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  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,197 Founders Club
    RoadDawg55 said:

    LebamDawg said:

    screw HBO and Netflix

    Why? There are some good shows and movies to watch on both of them. Are you a network tv guy?
    I have both and am glad that I do
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    1to392831weretaken said:

    When I read that HBO's new masters wanted to turn them into another Netflix, I almost committed seppuku. I don't care that the scope is narrow, I care that they're the only network out there anymore treating television as an art medium instead of a digital Wal Mart. They pump huge dollars into big visions like nobody else, so the quality is incredibly high across the board. If HBO was the only channel going, there wouldn't be much to watch, and that would suck. Since there are millions of hours of other content available, I want HBO doing exactly what they're doing: ponying up to make the best content available. Broadening their scope will only turn their premium content shittier, which would be awful.

    Fucking A right.

    HBO is still the dominant player in original content. They produce masterpiece after masterpiece, and just the virtue of being an HBO show is a seal of approval for any series. I really hope their AT&T overlords don't dilute their brand by trying to keep up with Netflix and Prime.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458 Founders Club
    Watching the Atlanta Children on HBO

    Its good but part 2 had a glaring obvious error

    They showed a reporter asking Reagan if he would get involved. He said it had to cross state lines to get the FBI involved.

    Then they show Mayor Jackson in the Oval office talking to Reagan and say that he laid down the law and talked about the Lindbergh baby and got Reagan to agree

    Then on their timeline they said the FBI got involved in November of 1980.

    I rewound it just to make sure. Reagan took office January 1981

    It still bothers me. Its sloppy and casts doubt on the film makers

    But I digress. HBO puts out good product
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    Watching the Atlanta Children on HBO

    Its good but part 2 had a glaring obvious error

    They showed a reporter asking Reagan if he would get involved. He said it had to cross state lines to get the FBI involved.

    Then they show Mayor Jackson in the Oval office talking to Reagan and say that he laid down the law and talked about the Lindbergh baby and got Reagan to agree

    Then on their timeline they said the FBI got involved in November of 1980.

    I rewound it just to make sure. Reagan took office January 1981

    It still bothers me. Its sloppy and casts doubt on the film makers

    But I digress. HBO puts out good product

    Mindhunter on Netflix covered the Atlanta murders pretty well in this season's storyline.



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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    When I read that HBO's new masters wanted to turn them into another Netflix, I almost committed seppuku. I don't care that the scope is narrow, I care that they're the only network out there anymore treating television as an art medium instead of a digital Wal Mart. They pump huge dollars into big visions like nobody else, so the quality is incredibly high across the board. If HBO was the only channel going, there wouldn't be much to watch, and that would suck. Since there are millions of hours of other content available, I want HBO doing exactly what they're doing: ponying up to make the best content available. Broadening their scope will only turn their premium content shittier, which would be awful.

    Fucking A right.

    HBO is still the dominant player in original content. They produce masterpiece after masterpiece, and just the virtue of being an HBO show is a seal of approval for any series. I really hope their AT&T overlords don't dilute their brand by trying to keep up with Netflix and Prime.
    I love HBO, but Game of Thrones, Westworld, arguably 2 of their biggest shows are not original content.

    Neither was True Blood, Watchmen, or His Dark Materials.

    HBO is still the best, but their best is no longer as vastly different than the best from Netflix, Amazon, etc as it used to be.
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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    ThomasFremont said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    When I read that HBO's new masters wanted to turn them into another Netflix, I almost committed seppuku. I don't care that the scope is narrow, I care that they're the only network out there anymore treating television as an art medium instead of a digital Wal Mart. They pump huge dollars into big visions like nobody else, so the quality is incredibly high across the board. If HBO was the only channel going, there wouldn't be much to watch, and that would suck. Since there are millions of hours of other content available, I want HBO doing exactly what they're doing: ponying up to make the best content available. Broadening their scope will only turn their premium content shittier, which would be awful.

    Fucking A right.

    HBO is still the dominant player in original content. They produce masterpiece after masterpiece, and just the virtue of being an HBO show is a seal of approval for any series. I really hope their AT&T overlords don't dilute their brand by trying to keep up with Netflix and Prime.
    I love HBO, but Game of Thrones, Westworld, arguably 2 of their biggest shows are not original content.

    Neither was True Blood, Watchmen, or His Dark Materials.

    HBO is still the best, but their best is no longer as vastly different than the best from Netflix, Amazon, etc as it used to be.
    Fair, but I'm going old school with classics like The Wire and The Sopranos. To me that's when HBO became HBO.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,496 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    When I read that HBO's new masters wanted to turn them into another Netflix, I almost committed seppuku. I don't care that the scope is narrow, I care that they're the only network out there anymore treating television as an art medium instead of a digital Wal Mart. They pump huge dollars into big visions like nobody else, so the quality is incredibly high across the board. If HBO was the only channel going, there wouldn't be much to watch, and that would suck. Since there are millions of hours of other content available, I want HBO doing exactly what they're doing: ponying up to make the best content available. Broadening their scope will only turn their premium content shittier, which would be awful.

    Fucking A right.

    HBO is still the dominant player in original content. They produce masterpiece after masterpiece, and just the virtue of being an HBO show is a seal of approval for any series. I really hope their AT&T overlords don't dilute their brand by trying to keep up with Netflix and Prime.
    I love HBO, but Game of Thrones, Westworld, arguably 2 of their biggest shows are not original content.

    Neither was True Blood, Watchmen, or His Dark Materials.

    HBO is still the best, but their best is no longer as vastly different than the best from Netflix, Amazon, etc as it used to be.
    I'm not the streaming superiority guy like some of yous, but I think Amazon Original >> Netflix Original lately. Patriot teh absolute tits.
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    When I read that HBO's new masters wanted to turn them into another Netflix, I almost committed seppuku. I don't care that the scope is narrow, I care that they're the only network out there anymore treating television as an art medium instead of a digital Wal Mart. They pump huge dollars into big visions like nobody else, so the quality is incredibly high across the board. If HBO was the only channel going, there wouldn't be much to watch, and that would suck. Since there are millions of hours of other content available, I want HBO doing exactly what they're doing: ponying up to make the best content available. Broadening their scope will only turn their premium content shittier, which would be awful.

    Fucking A right.

    HBO is still the dominant player in original content. They produce masterpiece after masterpiece, and just the virtue of being an HBO show is a seal of approval for any series. I really hope their AT&T overlords don't dilute their brand by trying to keep up with Netflix and Prime.
    I love HBO, but Game of Thrones, Westworld, arguably 2 of their biggest shows are not original content.

    Neither was True Blood, Watchmen, or His Dark Materials.

    HBO is still the best, but their best is no longer as vastly different than the best from Netflix, Amazon, etc as it used to be.
    Succession is quality HBO. Not as good as Billions on Showtime but solid.

    Showtime is pretty well kicking HBO's ass right this second - Ray Donovan, Homeland (though not as good as early seasons), Billions are all must see TV.

    AppleTV is catching up fast. For All Mankind is pretty entertaining. The Morning Show kicked ass but could have used much more nudity, imho.

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  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    When I read that HBO's new masters wanted to turn them into another Netflix, I almost committed seppuku. I don't care that the scope is narrow, I care that they're the only network out there anymore treating television as an art medium instead of a digital Wal Mart. They pump huge dollars into big visions like nobody else, so the quality is incredibly high across the board. If HBO was the only channel going, there wouldn't be much to watch, and that would suck. Since there are millions of hours of other content available, I want HBO doing exactly what they're doing: ponying up to make the best content available. Broadening their scope will only turn their premium content shittier, which would be awful.

    Fucking A right.

    HBO is still the dominant player in original content. They produce masterpiece after masterpiece, and just the virtue of being an HBO show is a seal of approval for any series. I really hope their AT&T overlords don't dilute their brand by trying to keep up with Netflix and Prime.
    I love HBO, but Game of Thrones, Westworld, arguably 2 of their biggest shows are not original content.

    Neither was True Blood, Watchmen, or His Dark Materials.

    HBO is still the best, but their best is no longer as vastly different than the best from Netflix, Amazon, etc as it used to be.
    Fair, but I'm going old school with classics like The Wire and The Sopranos. To me that's when HBO became HBO.
    The Sopranos and The Wire ushered in the Second Golden Age of Television (https://www.amazon.com/Difficult-Men-Creative-Revolution-Sopranos-ebook/dp/B00AEDDPFA) but it’s been 15 years since HBO was the epicenter. FX and AMC has better original content for most of that time as did Netflix (even though they suck.)
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  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    When I read that HBO's new masters wanted to turn them into another Netflix, I almost committed seppuku. I don't care that the scope is narrow, I care that they're the only network out there anymore treating television as an art medium instead of a digital Wal Mart. They pump huge dollars into big visions like nobody else, so the quality is incredibly high across the board. If HBO was the only channel going, there wouldn't be much to watch, and that would suck. Since there are millions of hours of other content available, I want HBO doing exactly what they're doing: ponying up to make the best content available. Broadening their scope will only turn their premium content shittier, which would be awful.

    Fucking A right.

    HBO is still the dominant player in original content. They produce masterpiece after masterpiece, and just the virtue of being an HBO show is a seal of approval for any series. I really hope their AT&T overlords don't dilute their brand by trying to keep up with Netflix and Prime.
    I love HBO, but Game of Thrones, Westworld, arguably 2 of their biggest shows are not original content.

    Neither was True Blood, Watchmen, or His Dark Materials.

    HBO is still the best, but their best is no longer as vastly different than the best from Netflix, Amazon, etc as it used to be.
    I'm not the streaming superiority guy like some of yous, but I think Amazon Original >> Netflix Original lately. Patriot teh absolute tits.
    Amazon is creeping up on Netflix. But they have plenty of duds too. Netflix still has them beat in overall catalogue and UX IMHO.

    Disney+ has a lot of potential, but they need to work on the underlying features that are taken for granted on Netflix (saving your spot mid movie/episode). Restarting a movie and then having to scrub around trying to find where you left off sucks.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,458 Founders Club
    Those little details mean a lot
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter
    I tell you again, London Irish on Prime is laugh out loud funny shit.

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