The Dawning of America’s Post Pandemic Age
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If we are in this state on June 1st, there is no return.
There will be a continuing cascade of layoffs.
Half the people won't be paying their mortgage or rent.
Most of the restaurants and bars will close down for good,
Commercial real estate will crash.
Big retailers that were already on the ropes will disappear.
By then there will be cracks on the facade of the biggest banks. And then there will be a run on said Banks.
The Feds will print more fake money to "bail them out" but they won't be lending any more out. Inflation will begin to take hold, Goods and food will start to be more scarce due to supply chains breaking down and truckers not being paid on time.
Big corporations, like 2008, are even now learning how to do more with less body count. Corporations that were on the fence with A/I software will suddenly be receptive to it, now, wiping out whole departments once it's time to go back to "biz as usual".
But other than that, I think we'll be just fine. -
salemcoog said:
Big corporations, like 2008, are even now learning how to do more with less body count. Corporations that were on the fence with A/I software will suddenly be receptive to it, now, wiping out whole departments once it's time to go back to "biz as usual.
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Got to believe that many brick and mortar retailers like Macy's that were already struggling are never going to open up many of the stores they've now closed.
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I take the extreme doomsday opinion pieces with a block of salt
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But why has there been a run on gun stores?salemcoog said:If we are in this state on June 1st, there is no return.
There will be a continuing cascade of layoffs.
Half the people won't be paying their mortgage or rent.
Most of the restaurants and bars will close down for good,
Commercial real estate will crash.
Big retailers that were already on the ropes will disappear.
By then there will be cracks on the facade of the biggest banks. And then there will be a run on said Banks.
The Feds will print more fake money to "bail them out" but they won't be lending any more out. Inflation will begin to take hold, Goods and food will start to be more scarce due to supply chains breaking down and truckers not being paid on time.
Big corporations, like 2008, are even now learning how to do more with less body count. Corporations that were on the fence with A/I software will suddenly be receptive to it, now, wiping out whole departments once it's time to go back to "biz as usual".
But other than that, I think we'll be just fine. -
The only option at this point is to give the Dems more powersalemcoog said:If we are in this state on June 1st, there is no return.
There will be a continuing cascade of layoffs.
Half the people won't be paying their mortgage or rent.
Most of the restaurants and bars will close down for good,
Commercial real estate will crash.
Big retailers that were already on the ropes will disappear.
By then there will be cracks on the facade of the biggest banks. And then there will be a run on said Banks.
The Feds will print more fake money to "bail them out" but they won't be lending any more out. Inflation will begin to take hold, Goods and food will start to be more scarce due to supply chains breaking down and truckers not being paid on time.
Big corporations, like 2008, are even now learning how to do more with less body count. Corporations that were on the fence with A/I software will suddenly be receptive to it, now, wiping out whole departments once it's time to go back to "biz as usual".
But other than that, I think we'll be just fine. -
a bit of overreaction?
I expect the USofA to just shut down for 3-4 months every flu/Wuhan/contagion season for now on.
Everyone will be on mandatory staycation during Contagion Season. CS will replace the late winter early spring time frame. Mortgages, Rent, standard utility bills will be prorated for the remaining 8-9 month non-contagion seasons giving the masses financial security. -
I think when this phase is over, Trump is going to come out guns blazing on every mayor and governor out there who pulled bullshit moves like Cuomo suddenly 'finding' medical supplies in a warehouse in New Jersey.
I actually think he's somewhat holding his tongue so as not to incite even worse hysteria and panic than the MSM has already stoked up. He's sparred a little bit with Cuomo and Inslee and Newsom but it's going to be way, way more intense after the public is calmed down.
If there's one thing about Trump, he doesn't forget. He does NOT forget who fucks with him.
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LebamDawg said:
a bit of overreaction?
I expect the USofA to just shut down for 3-4 months every flu/Wuhan/contagion season for now on.
Everyone will be on mandatory staycation during Contagion Season. CS will replace the late winter early spring time frame. Mortgages, Rent, standard utility bills will be prorated for the remaining 8-9 month non-contagion seasons giving the masses financial security.
Except 70% of the population lives month to month and over half the population pays half of their take home income to rent and mortgage.
So how are over half of these folks going to be able to plow forward as before on 3/4 of what they made before?
And how are restaurants, bars, gyms, shops going to be able to pull off the same thing?
Oh all with higher taxes btw to pay for the Trillions given out with little roi.
Spoiler alert: They won't be able to. They will close. For good.
Nope. Anything after June 1st and its the point of no return. Really May 1st to be back on our feet within a year.
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Which is obviously why April 27 is what's being said now as the target date. I would think that everything would have to be completely fucked this coming month for them to come out and ask for an additional 30 days. If any kind of a compromise can be made at that point to just have only at-risk people stay home and still practice social distancing while in public, it's going to happen.salemcoog said:LebamDawg said:a bit of overreaction?
I expect the USofA to just shut down for 3-4 months every flu/Wuhan/contagion season for now on.
Everyone will be on mandatory staycation during Contagion Season. CS will replace the late winter early spring time frame. Mortgages, Rent, standard utility bills will be prorated for the remaining 8-9 month non-contagion seasons giving the masses financial security.
Except 70% of the population lives month to month and over half the population pays half of their take home income to rent and mortgage.
So how are over half of these folks going to be able to plow forward as before on 3/4 of what they made before?
And how are restaurants, bars, gyms, shops going to be able to pull off the same thing?
Oh all with higher taxes btw to pay for the Trillions given out with little roi.
Spoiler alert: They won't be able to. They will close. For good.
Nope. Anything after June 1st and its the point of no return. Really May 1st to be back on our feet within a year.
End of may is still probably the timeline for hotels and certain industries though. -
He should come out against hillaryPurpleThrobber said:I think when this phase is over, Trump is going to come out guns blazing on every mayor and governor out there who pulled bullshit moves like Cuomo suddenly 'finding' medical supplies in a warehouse in New Jersey.
I actually think he's somewhat holding his tongue so as not to incite even worse hysteria and panic than the MSM has already stoked up. He's sparred a little bit with Cuomo and Inslee and Newsom but it's going to be way, way more intense after the public is calmed down.
If there's one thing about Trump, he doesn't forget. He does NOT forget who fucks with him. -
all companies will also have to increase salaries to cover the 3-4 month shutdown. The workers will form unions - Washington Education Association - Restaurant Workers (WEA-RW) branch, for instance.salemcoog said:LebamDawg said:a bit of overreaction?
I expect the USofA to just shut down for 3-4 months every flu/Wuhan/contagion season for now on.
Everyone will be on mandatory staycation during Contagion Season. CS will replace the late winter early spring time frame. Mortgages, Rent, standard utility bills will be prorated for the remaining 8-9 month non-contagion seasons giving the masses financial security.
Except 70% of the population lives month to month and over half the population pays half of their take home income to rent and mortgage.
So how are over half of these folks going to be able to plow forward as before on 3/4 of what they made before?
And how are restaurants, bars, gyms, shops going to be able to pull off the same thing?
Oh all with higher taxes btw to pay for the Trillions given out with little roi.
Spoiler alert: They won't be able to. They will close. For good.
Nope. Anything after June 1st and its the point of no return. Really May 1st to be back on our feet within a year.
WEA is good at negotiating contracts where the workers aren't there for 3 months.
Problem solved, everyone will have to join a union to receive salaries but the government will be happy. That will also open up $100,000 government positions for each new union. -
I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
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Yes - lots of leftists doing the fear mongering on this thread.DoogieMcDoogerson said:I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
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Debt to GDP in 1920 was 29%. We'll be at like 110% this year.DoogieMcDoogerson said:I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
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and Democrats wisalemcoog said:If we are in this state on June 1st, there is no return.
There will be a continuing cascade of layoffs.
Half the people won't be paying their mortgage or rent.
Most of the restaurants and bars will close down for good,
Commercial real estate will crash.
Big retailers that were already on the ropes will disappear.
By then there will be cracks on the facade of the biggest banks. And then there will be a run on said Banks.
The Feds will print more fake money to "bail them out" but they won't be lending any more out. Inflation will begin to take hold, Goods and food will start to be more scarce due to supply chains breaking down and truckers not being paid on time.
Big corporations, like 2008, are even now learning how to do more with less body count. Corporations that were on the fence with A/I software will suddenly be receptive to it, now, wiping out whole departments once it's time to go back to "biz as usual".
But other than that, I think we'll be just fine.
Which is why this is happeningPitchfork51 said:
The only option at this point is to give the Dems more powersalemcoog said:If we are in this state on June 1st, there is no return.
There will be a continuing cascade of layoffs.
Half the people won't be paying their mortgage or rent.
Most of the restaurants and bars will close down for good,
Commercial real estate will crash.
Big retailers that were already on the ropes will disappear.
By then there will be cracks on the facade of the biggest banks. And then there will be a run on said Banks.
The Feds will print more fake money to "bail them out" but they won't be lending any more out. Inflation will begin to take hold, Goods and food will start to be more scarce due to supply chains breaking down and truckers not being paid on time.
Big corporations, like 2008, are even now learning how to do more with less body count. Corporations that were on the fence with A/I software will suddenly be receptive to it, now, wiping out whole departments once it's time to go back to "biz as usual".
But other than that, I think we'll be just fine. -
First they closed the fishing holes and I said nothing.....dflea said:
Yes - lots of leftists doing the fear mongering on this thread.DoogieMcDoogerson said:I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
lol
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PurpleThrobber said:
First they closed the glory holes and I said nothing.....dflea said:
Yes - lots of leftists doing the fear mongering on this thread.DoogieMcDoogerson said:I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
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OH hellz no!!!!YellowSnow said:PurpleThrobber said:
First they closed the glory holes and I said nothing.....dflea said:
Yes - lots of leftists doing the fear mongering on this thread.DoogieMcDoogerson said:I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
lol
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It's a little more complicated than that but thanks.YellowSnow said:
Debt to GDP in 1920 was 29%. We'll be at like 110% this year.DoogieMcDoogerson said:I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
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Sure it is. But still we’re going to be in uncharted water for debt to GDP, excluding the end of WW2. How much can we inflate it away before T bills are no longer seen as a safe asset?DoogieMcDoogerson said:
It's a little more complicated than that but thanks.YellowSnow said:
Debt to GDP in 1920 was 29%. We'll be at like 110% this year.DoogieMcDoogerson said:I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
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Some Boomer got pissed when Millenials started calling this the Boomer Remover. He was dead on when he wrote back, "The joke's on you. We've already spent your inheritance.YellowSnow said:
Debt to GDP in 1920 was 29%. We'll be at like 110% this year.DoogieMcDoogerson said:I'm calling it now. We will get through this. This is all a bunch of leftist fearmongering. We will refer to the 2020s as the "Roaring 20s" as Trump brings us back to the top. Take screenshots if you need...
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The Department of Labor says 50-70 million unemployed by the end of April.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.htmlsalemcoog said:The Department of Labor says 50-70 million unemployed by the end of April.
