Where's the bill? Full text of stimulus hasn't been released but vote is expected today
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Need to pass it to find out what’s in it.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2020/03/26/is-there-wasteful-spending-in-the-coronavirus-stimulus-bill/#32cab41e60ae
Boy did the Senate shred Pelosi's demands
A quick spotlight on agencies receiving coronavirus recovery in the Senate bill includes:
$88 million to the Peace Corps for “evacuating volunteers and U.S. direct hires from overseas.” The agency just fired all of their 7,300 volunteers working in 61 countries on March 15. The Pelosi bill allocated $90 million.
$250 million to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). The subsidy would cover “taxpayer services,” “enforcement,” and “operations support.” The Pelosi bill provided $602 million.
$350 million to the State Department for “migration and Refugee Assistance.” This funding would help minimize the virus spread in vulnerable populations. The Pelosi bill earmarked $300 million.
$400 million to the federal Election Assistance Commission to assist the states with “election security grants.” The Pelosi bill provided $4 billion.
$30.8 billion to the Department of Education for “state Fiscal Stabilization Fund” that provides grants to support of elementary and secondary education ($13.5 billion), Higher Ed ($14.25 billion), and State flexibility grants ($3 billion). The Pelosi bill asked for $50 billion. -
And it still won't do much.
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I just heard an interview with Mark Cuban who said this bill includes loans to small businesses which will not be required to pay back. Can any of you confirm this? He said every small business owner in the country needs to take advantage of this immediately. I don't need to take a loan to keep my employees paid or pay for normal business expenses but if I can get some free government cheese, then hell yes I want to take advantage of that.
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I won't get a check. The (Seattle) middle class always gets fucked.GrundleStiltzkin said:And it still won't do much.
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Guessing there is a payback schedule that is very, very lenient - like many years at not many interest points.DuckHHunterisafag said:I just heard an interview with Mark Cuban who said this bill includes loans to small businesses which will not be required to pay back. Can any of you confirm this? He said every small business owner in the country needs to take advantage of this immediately. I don't need to take a loan to keep my employees paid or pay for normal business expenses but if I can get some free government cheese, then hell yes I want to take advantage of that.
FREE MONEY!
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As a white person, should I really be receiving anything?
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Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
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Worthless cunts like you haven't paid a fraction of what I have into the system. Fuck offThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
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If the govt hadn’t shut it all down, probably no need. But since it’s there, take it. Gives the medium to marginal performers a shot to live to fight another day. Like classic liberalism, conservatism is dying if not dead.ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
It’s gonna play havoc with rates and inflation medium- and long-term; but absent a killer balance sheet and loads of cash in the bank, most businesses can’t sustain a month or more of revenue and disruption of their supply chain. -
I said enjoy. Why so mad?DuckHHunterisafag said:
Worthless cunts like you haven't paid a fraction of what I have into the system. Fuck offThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
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But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
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He gets pissy about once a month or so, but we love our Freemesalemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
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That's just when the edibles wear off.salemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
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You have a mouse n your pocket?DerekJohnson said:
He gets pissy about once a month or so, but we love our Freemesalemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
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I cream for FremeDerekJohnson said:
He gets pissy about once a month or so, but we love our Freemesalemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
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Yeah, attack me when y’all been mocking any and every social program ever discussed here forever.salemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
Now that YOU get some, it’s gimme gimme gimme.
But HOW are you all hypocrites???
Like I said, enjoy. Sounds like many of you desperately need it. I hope it helps. -
ThomasFremont said:
Yeah, attack me when y’all been mocking any and every social program ever discussed here forever.salemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
Now that YOU get some, it’s gimme gimme gimme.
But HOW are you all hypocrites???
Like I said, enjoy. Sounds like many of you desperately need it. I hope it helps.
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I have mixed feelings about all of this but I do think there's something to be said for the idea that when government orders are what is killing an economy/job market/personal finance that it's more appropriate for said government to step in and offer relief.
This isn't just some random recession. This is a recession caused by a virus yes but moreso by governmental response to said virus. I'm pro small government but if government is going to choose to take away economic freedom like this I think they have to offer economic relief.
IOW I was against W's stimulus in 08 but am pro Trump's stimulus in 20 even though I am much more pro W than Trump.
If there's ever a situation where government stimulus is appropriate this is it. -
I'm spending mine on weed, tattoos and MMA pay per views.ThomasFremont said:
Yeah, attack me when y’all been mocking any and every social program ever discussed here forever.salemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
Now that YOU get some, it’s gimme gimme gimme.
But HOW are you all hypocrites???
Like I said, enjoy. Sounds like many of you desperately need it. I hope it helps.
Tommy can now use some of it to book a killer deal of a flight to DC for the Women's March next year. -
I won’t be getting a check. HTHThomasFremont said:
Yeah, attack me when y’all been mocking any and every social program ever discussed here forever.salemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
Now that YOU get some, it’s gimme gimme gimme.
But HOW are you all hypocrites???
Like I said, enjoy. Sounds like many of you desperately need it. I hope it helps. -
Except the government doesn’t have money of their own. So they are giving away others money.dnc said:I have mixed feelings about all of this but I do think there's something to be said for the idea that when government orders are what is killing an economy/job market/personal finance that it's more appropriate for said government to step in and offer relief.
This isn't just some random recession. This is a recession caused by a virus yes but moreso by governmental response to said virus. I'm pro small government but if government is going to choose to take away economic freedom like this I think they have to offer economic relief.
IOW I was against W's stimulus in 08 but am pro Trump's stimulus in 20 even though I am much more pro W than Trump.
If there's ever a situation where government stimulus is appropriate this is it.
And speaking of hypocrites every teacher and government employee who is getting a paid vacation better be donating their check to a someone who lost their job or a charity. Time to put up or shut up. But they won’t. These assholes are going to end up making more for doing less. -
#MeNeitherMikeDamone said:
I won’t be getting a check. HTHThomasFremont said:
Yeah, attack me when y’all been mocking any and every social program ever discussed here forever.salemcoog said:
But How is Tommy an insufferable gash?ThomasFremont said:Have fun with your free money, “conservatives”
Now that YOU get some, it’s gimme gimme gimme.
But HOW are you all hypocrites???
Like I said, enjoy. Sounds like many of you desperately need it. I hope it helps. -
Put more succinctlydnc said:I have mixed feelings about all of this but I do think there's something to be said for the idea that when government orders are what is killing an economy/job market/personal finance that it's more appropriate for said government to step in and offer relief.
This isn't just some random recession. This is a recession caused by a virus yes but moreso by governmental response to said virus. I'm pro small government but if government is going to choose to take away economic freedom like this I think they have to offer economic relief.
IOW I was against W's stimulus in 08 but am pro Trump's stimulus in 20 even though I am much more pro W than Trump.
If there's ever a situation where government stimulus is appropriate this is it.
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Yeah there's that.MikeDamone said:
Except the government doesn’t have money of their own. So they are giving away others money.dnc said:I have mixed feelings about all of this but I do think there's something to be said for the idea that when government orders are what is killing an economy/job market/personal finance that it's more appropriate for said government to step in and offer relief.
This isn't just some random recession. This is a recession caused by a virus yes but moreso by governmental response to said virus. I'm pro small government but if government is going to choose to take away economic freedom like this I think they have to offer economic relief.
IOW I was against W's stimulus in 08 but am pro Trump's stimulus in 20 even though I am much more pro W than Trump.
If there's ever a situation where government stimulus is appropriate this is it.
As usual we are stealing from our kids. Or their kids. -
How can we steal from some Chinese kids?dnc said:
Yeah there's that.MikeDamone said:
Except the government doesn’t have money of their own. So they are giving away others money.dnc said:I have mixed feelings about all of this but I do think there's something to be said for the idea that when government orders are what is killing an economy/job market/personal finance that it's more appropriate for said government to step in and offer relief.
This isn't just some random recession. This is a recession caused by a virus yes but moreso by governmental response to said virus. I'm pro small government but if government is going to choose to take away economic freedom like this I think they have to offer economic relief.
IOW I was against W's stimulus in 08 but am pro Trump's stimulus in 20 even though I am much more pro W than Trump.
If there's ever a situation where government stimulus is appropriate this is it.
As usual we are stealing from our kids. Or their kids.
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Good thing we weren't too much in the red before this cluster fuck started.MikeDamone said:
Except the government doesn’t have money of their own. So they are giving away others money.dnc said:I have mixed feelings about all of this but I do think there's something to be said for the idea that when government orders are what is killing an economy/job market/personal finance that it's more appropriate for said government to step in and offer relief.
This isn't just some random recession. This is a recession caused by a virus yes but moreso by governmental response to said virus. I'm pro small government but if government is going to choose to take away economic freedom like this I think they have to offer economic relief.
IOW I was against W's stimulus in 08 but am pro Trump's stimulus in 20 even though I am much more pro W than Trump.
If there's ever a situation where government stimulus is appropriate this is it.
And speaking of hypocrites every teacher and government employee who is getting a paid vacation better be donating their check to a someone who lost their job or a charity. Time to put up or shut up. But they won’t. These assholes are going to end up making more for doing less. -
Good thing I didn't file yet for 19. Because in 18 I made squat.
So I'm gonna take my free money
And use it to pay some of the taxes I owe for 19. -
As always I had my taxes filed and paid by Feb 1
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But if I had filed I wouldn't have gotten my free moneyRaceBannon said:As always I had my taxes filed and paid by Feb 1
#sucker
