Marinerization is alive and well
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Jim Johnson won't end up being a mistake for Oakland. He had a bad week or so that happened to be at the start of the season so it got magnified. Almost every closer not named Mariano Rivera (GOAT) goes through that every year.
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We'll agree to disagree, they are paying him 10 million and even though he was still good he wasn't 10 million dollar great last yearTequilla said:Jim Johnson won't end up being a mistake for Oakland. He had a bad week or so that happened to be at the start of the season so it got magnified. Almost every closer not named Mariano Rivera (GOAT) goes through that every year.
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You could argue that the A's could have kept Grant Balfour for roughly the same cost but they decided they didn't want to extend a qualifying offer for whatever reason. They ended up trading really nothing of value for Johnson for what will turn into 2 years of club control and potential draft pick compensation as a result.
I've learned over the years to not criticize moves made by Billy Beane ... I trust he knows more than me. -
he isn't perfect, they could've promoted from within and used the 10 million elsewhere. Everyone makes mistakes, even Billy Beane
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They could have ...
But I tend to be of the opinion that I'd rather have an experienced closer than not. Closing games at the Major League level is a high pressure environment ... and let's be honest, not everybody reacts well to pressure. -
closers are like running backs, they're good one year and fall apart the next (outside fo a select few) I'll stay cheap and promote from within
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Paying big money for closers is stupid. Paying big money for closers who aren't big strikeout pitchers is fucktarded.
Jim Johnson the last two years has posted WAR's of 2.5 and 1.4. Yorvis Medina for an example had a 1.9 WAR last year. You are probably asking who? Exactly.
A's would have been better off using that 8-10 million on hitters.
The Mariners problem is developing talent from within not money. They have had just one positional player reach an all-star game who was home grown since 2000. That player was Jose Lopez.
Outside of Felix they haven't developed worth a shit. Go look at their drafts from 1997-2011 it's a fucking dreckfest. The few good players who were selected flourished elsewhere like Adam Jones.
The Mariners should have spent some money to upgrade the OF. Once you paid Cano you have committed to putting a good product on the field so you can't go into a season with Ackley, Almonte and Saunders/Morrison as your OF's with Romero getting a ton of AB's you just can't. -
case closedHe_Needs_More_Time said:Paying big money for closers is stupid. Paying big money for closers who aren't big strikeout pitchers is fucktarded.
Jim Johnson the last two years has posted WAR's of 2.5 and 1.4. Yorvis Medina for an example had a 1.9 WAR last year. You are probably asking who? Exactly.
A's would have been better off using that 8-10 million on hitters.
The Mariners problem is developing talent from within not money. They have had just one positional player reach an all-star game who was home grown since 2000. That player was Jose Lopez.
Outside of Felix they haven't developed worth a shit. Go look at their drafts from 1997-2011 it's a fucking dreckfest. The few good players who were selected flourished elsewhere like Adam Jones.
The Mariners should have spent some money to upgrade the OF. Once you paid Cano you have committed to putting a good product on the field so you can't go into a season with Ackley, Almonte and Saunders/Morrison as your OF's with Romero getting a ton of AB's you just can't.
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