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YellowSnow · March 2020

Email this morning from SPS...

Dear Families:

Seattle Public Schools is committed to keeping families informed as we respond to the presence of coronavirus disease, or COVID-19, in our greater community. We continue to work in partnership with Public Health Seattle and King County as the lead agency for COVID-19. Currently, Public Health recommends keeping schools open. As always, our top priority is the health and safety of our students and staff, and we will follow the guidance of health experts in this evolving situation. Below are responses to key questions from families and staff. These have also been added to the coronavirus disease 2019 FAQ

Why aren’t you proactively closing schools?

In addition to Public Health’s recommendation to stay open, there are several factors we are evaluating. While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted. Closing schools is a last resort and will be done with great care, transparency, and in partnership with Public Health. Summary of Public Health Seattle and King County new recommendations.

Another consideration is the unintended impact on our health care community and our collective response to COVID-19. Seattle is fortunate to have great medical institutions and providers. This means many of our students’ parents are health care providers or work in the health care industry on the front lines of the COVID-19 response. If schools close, fewer people will be able to provide front-line support. The longer we can keep our doors open, the better it will be for our students and the entire community. As soon as Public Health determines schools should close, we will.

RaceBannon · March 2020

While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.

YellowSnow · March 2020

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.

This is all hearsay, but it seems like all the wealthy, Eastside Tech parents are demanding to shut down those schools (Northshore already has). Many of those folks can telecommute and let the kids watch TV for a few weeks. The pours of Seattle living paycheck to paycheck don't have this option. Riding out CV is a rich man's game.

RoadTrip · March 2020

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.

Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Sledog · March 2020

YellowSnow · March 2020

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.

SFGbob · March 2020

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.

That is so fucking sad.

TurdBomber · March 2020

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.

What low income families in Seattle? There aren't any left and there hasn't been for a long time. One person needs 68k according to city government, to live in Seattle. Sound like low income to you?

TurdBomber · March 2020

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.

SPS is glorified, subsidized daycare for a lot of families, and that's how both the kids and parents treat it. In a couple years there will by cries about how these families need more and more so there kids can test above the 25th percentile, and the voters will approve more levies. What you won't see is the parents of these kids coming to parent-teacher conferences, volunteering at their kids school, or ever paying for anything as they roll up in a new car with the latest iPhone. Reagan's Welfare Queen in Chicago never existed. But she's alive and well in Seattle.

No government entity can waste money like an urban zero-accountability American school district.

YellowSnow · March 2020

TurdBomber said:

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.
What low income families in Seattle? There aren't any left and there hasn't been for a long time. One person needs 68k according to city government, to live in Seattle. Sound like low income to you?

There's plenty of lower income housing which feeds into our Elementary school. We're a mix of families that live in $700,000 to $1,200,000 single family detached (call it 70%) and the rest in either cheaper 60' and 70's era multi-family units. You're telling me all the minority students in our school (guessing 30%) aren't from low income (by Seattle standards, at least) families?

TurdBomber · March 2020

YellowSnow said:

TurdBomber said:

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.
What low income families in Seattle? There aren't any left and there hasn't been for a long time. One person needs 68k according to city government, to live in Seattle. Sound like low income to you?
There's plenty of lower income housing which feeds into our Elementary school. We're a mix of families that live in $700,000 to $1,200,000 single family detached (call it 70%) and the rest in either cheaper 60' and 70's era multi-family units. You're telling me all the minority students in our school (guessing 30%) aren't from low income (by Seattle standards, at least) families?

I'm saying a lot aren't. Not all. But a lot. 23 years in SPS informs my statements. And I can't blame the families for taking what's handed to them without scrutiny, and that's the biggest problem in SPS, with its 600+ million annual budget.

But I do blame the families for not making their kids do homework and never attending P-T conferences. Hence, just daycare to a lot of them.

Fire_Marshall_Bill · March 2020

TurdBomber said:

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.
What low income families in Seattle? There aren't any left and there hasn't been for a long time. One person needs 68k according to city government, to live in Seattle. Sound like low income to you?

That's upper middle class here. At the least, it's probably top 25 percent

Fire_Marshall_Bill · March 2020

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.

40 years of trickle down bullshit, dark money, oligarchy, bullshit trade agreements, good jobs leaving, swelling underclass, illegals etc....

Fire_Marshall_Bill · March 2020

TurdBomber said:

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.
SPS is glorified, subsidized daycare for a lot of families, and that's how both the kids and parents treat it. In a couple years there will by cries about how these families need more and more so there kids can test above the 25th percentile, and the voters will approve more levies. What you won't see is the parents of these kids coming to parent-teacher conferences, volunteering at their kids school, or every paying for anything as they roll up in a new car with the latest iPhone. Reagan's Welfare Queen in Chicago never existed. But she's alive and well in Seattle.

No government entity can waste money like an urban zero-accountability American school district.

Pretty much any urban school district. I was in SPS off and on 9 years in the 80s and 90s. Tucson, Portland, Phx, LA..all the same. Give me free shit. I don't raise my rug rats right but let's blame the teachers and principal for it.

TurdBomber · March 2020

Srsy, @YellowSnow, there are probably 100 people working down at JSCEE, making 150k plus a year (including benefits) who do absolutely nothing that measurably contributes to anything going on inside SPS classrooms. I know people who've worked inside that building for 20 years, who have absolutely no idea what goes on in 30% of the offices inside that building. And if and when they inquire, the blowback is fast and severe, so they keep their heads down and don't ask questions. Seattle needs a series of levy failures to clean the dead wood out of that silo of inertia.

Sad but true fact: The Pentagon has better accountability than most urban school districts in the USA.

GreenRiverGatorz · March 2020

TurdBomber said:

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.
SPS is glorified, subsidized daycare for a lot of families, and that's how both the kids and parents treat it. In a couple years there will by cries about how these families need more and more so there kids can test above the 25th percentile, and the voters will approve more levies. What you won't see is the parents of these kids coming to parent-teacher conferences, volunteering at their kids school, or ever paying for anything as they roll up in a new car with the latest iPhone. Reagan's Welfare Queen in Chicago never existed. But she's alive and well in Seattle.

No government entity can waste money like an urban zero-accountability American school district.

What are we talking about again?

The ridiculousness of SPS aside, it's a real problem for low-income families everywhere in the region, and anywhere else CV spreads to the point where school closures become a tool to stop it. You're not going to see @Sledog shedding any tears for his long awaited eradication of poor urban liberals, but I think a lot of others (see: Yella) are bothered by the disparity.

TurdBomber · March 2020

GreenRiverGatorz said:

TurdBomber said:

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.
SPS is glorified, subsidized daycare for a lot of families, and that's how both the kids and parents treat it. In a couple years there will by cries about how these families need more and more so there kids can test above the 25th percentile, and the voters will approve more levies. What you won't see is the parents of these kids coming to parent-teacher conferences, volunteering at their kids school, or ever paying for anything as they roll up in a new car with the latest iPhone. Reagan's Welfare Queen in Chicago never existed. But she's alive and well in Seattle.

No government entity can waste money like an urban zero-accountability American school district.
What are we talking about again?

The ridiculousness of SPS aside, it's a real problem for low-income families everywhere in the region, and anywhere else CV spreads to the point where school closures become a tool to stop it. You're not going to see @Sledog shedding any tears for his long awaited eradication of poor urban liberals, but I think a lot of others (see: Yella) are bothered by the disparity.

The problem is the "safety net" has become a fixed staple in so many lives that we can't even close a government building when we want and need to. Because we've given away fish so long that nobody knows how to catch enough on their own to survive. And that is not good, and not what our schools are supposed to be doing. That's the point.

RaceBannon · March 2020

If you think Trump should make folks panic you should insist the schools close

GreenRiverGatorz · March 2020

RaceBannon said:
If you think Trump should make folks panic you should insist the schools close

Agreed. And @TurdBomber makes a good point as to why there's a conflict over closure to begin with. We shouldn't have to pick and choose.

YellowSnow · March 2020

TurdBomber said:
Srsy, @YellowSnow, there are probably 100 people working down at JSCEE, making 150k plus a year (including benefits) who do absolutely nothing that measurably contributes to anything going on inside SPS classrooms. I know people who've worked inside that building for 20 years, who have absolutely no idea what goes on in 30% of the offices inside that building. And if and when they inquire, the blowback is fast and severe, so they keep their heads down and don't ask questions. Seattle needs a series of levy failures to clean the dead wood out of that silo of inertia.

Sad but true fact: The Pentagon has better accountability than most urban school districts in the USA.

I don't doubt any of this.

TurdBomber · March 2020

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

TurdBomber said:

YellowSnow said:

DuckHHunterisafag said:

RaceBannon said:
While education is our primary responsibility, public schools are also the access point to critical social services for thousands of students and families. Many of our families rely on our schools and staff for basic needs, including regular meals, health care, and child care. If our schools shut down, vulnerable families are at a higher risk of being negatively impacted.

Sad but true. How did we get here?

I'm glad they are staying open. This whole thing is amazing.
Just how the left needs them to be: it enables the ruling class providng them control, power and wealth.

Regardless of the discussion of how current policies make pours dependent on the state, how low income fams can weather CV school closures looks a lot different than a Director at MSFT.
SPS is glorified, subsidized daycare for a lot of families, and that's how both the kids and parents treat it. In a couple years there will by cries about how these families need more and more so there kids can test above the 25th percentile, and the voters will approve more levies. What you won't see is the parents of these kids coming to parent-teacher conferences, volunteering at their kids school, or every paying for anything as they roll up in a new car with the latest iPhone. Reagan's Welfare Queen in Chicago never existed. But she's alive and well in Seattle.

No government entity can waste money like an urban zero-accountability American school district.
Pretty much any urban school district. I was in SPS off and on 9 years in the 80s and 90s. Tucson, Portland, Phx, LA..all the same. Give me free shit. I don't raise my rug rats right but let's blame the teachers and principal for it.

It's especially bad right now, and continues to get worse, all because of Privileged White Elites who call everyone else privileged. Wait until Robin Deangelo's crack-pot "whiteness" and "white fragility" theories are adopted within the "ethnic studies" curriculum. Skin-color-based hatred will be a core subject and graduation requirement and that son-of-a-bitch MLK's dreams will finally be dead.

Who grieves for @YellowSnow's children? I do.

(I know this sounds racist, but I'm critical of the money-wasting bureaucrats and lazy teachers who perpetuate this system of failure, not the people who accept the free shit handed to them, whether they need it or not. That lack of accountability or follow-through is the unforgivable sin that harms everyone of every stripe, and something we should all get pissed off and worked up about.)

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