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Labor Force Participation Rate continues Rebound from depths of Obama's crappy economy

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
edited February 2020 in Tug Tavern



A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:
    The way I look at that chart. It was much higher in 2013 than now. HTH
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Boomers are no longer retiring.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Boomers are no longer retiring.
    It’s because stagnant wages FORCED them to stay in the workforce. Fucking Trump.
    I hear they have to take at least two jobs to make it.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Boomers are no longer retiring.
    It’s because stagnant wages FORCED them to stay in the workforce. Fucking Trump.
    You disagree with the fact that wages have been pretty stagnant for the past few decades relative to cost of living?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Boomers are no longer retiring.
    It’s because stagnant wages FORCED them to stay in the workforce. Fucking Trump.
    You disagree with the fact that wages have been pretty stagnant for the past few decades relative to cost of living?
    No. That's why it is nice that they are finally going up. Its a Blue Collar Boom baby

    I haven't retired because mama taught me never to leave money on the table
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter
    No meaningful raises under Obama.
  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    I love the idea that it's good for both parents have jobs and put the kids in daycare.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    There's a lot to like about steadily low unemployment.

    But the labor participation rate was and continues to be an issue. It moved from 62.8% in January 2017 to last month's 63.4%. That's some 7-6 bullshit you're creaming your pants over.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    We just need more tim

    You have no idea of the damage that Obama did

    Growth numbers should be up this year. We haven't completed a quarter yet. The unemployment being low should raise labor participation. All true

    Maybe this fabled coming together I keep hearing about could help. So far its been EOs

    That's why it matters that the democrats have gone so far left as to be useless in any economics.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Boomers are no longer retiring.
    It’s because stagnant wages FORCED them to stay in the workforce. Fucking Trump.
    I hear they have to take at least two jobs to make it.



    Slackers.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2020
    Toss in the million plus of legal chain migration from third world countries with no English or job skills plus the usual slew of illegal alien electrical engineers from Central America and that has no impact on the labor participation rate?Trump has a big ship finally turned the right way. Too bad the away team and the dems want to reverse course.


  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Bill Clinton must have been the greatest President evah!


    Meanwhile, back in the rational world:

    “In 2019, the last of the baby boomers will reach age 55 and transition into age groups with much lower labor force participation rates. Due in large part to an aging population, the labor force participation rate for all workers (age 16 and over) is projected to decline to 61.0 percent in 2026.”(emphasis added)

    -Bureau of Labor Statistics
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    Bring back Newt.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    Bring back Newt.

    Daddy doesn’t like shrimps.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Bill Clinton must have been the greatest President evah!


    Meanwhile, back in the rational world:

    “In 2019, the last of the baby boomers will reach age 55 and transition into age groups with much lower labor force participation rates. Due in large part to an aging population, the labor force participation rate for all workers (age 16 and over) is projected to decline to 61.0 percent in 2026.”(emphasis added)

    -Bureau of Labor Statistics
    The Clinton era was good. He focused on the economy, stupid. He worked with Congress and the good times rolled

    I go for results. I voted for him twice
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Democrats opposed the tax cuts and want to get rid of them. Allegedly. They want to reimpose massive regulation. They want to take over large swaths of the economy and jack spending even more than the current spender in chief

    So Trump. Rather easily

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Bill Clinton must have been the greatest President evah!


    Meanwhile, back in the rational world:

    “In 2019, the last of the baby boomers will reach age 55 and transition into age groups with much lower labor force participation rates. Due in large part to an aging population, the labor force participation rate for all workers (age 16 and over) is projected to decline to 61.0 percent in 2026.”(emphasis added)

    -Bureau of Labor Statistics
    The Clinton era was good. He focused on the economy, stupid. He worked with Congress and the good times rolled

    I go for results. I voted for him twice
    You can’t be right. Income taxes went up from the very start of his presidency. Communism!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Bill Clinton must have been the greatest President evah!


    Meanwhile, back in the rational world:

    “In 2019, the last of the baby boomers will reach age 55 and transition into age groups with much lower labor force participation rates. Due in large part to an aging population, the labor force participation rate for all workers (age 16 and over) is projected to decline to 61.0 percent in 2026.”(emphasis added)

    -Bureau of Labor Statistics
    The Clinton era was good. He focused on the economy, stupid. He worked with Congress and the good times rolled

    I go for results. I voted for him twice
    You can’t be right. Income taxes went up from the very start of his presidency. Communism!
    What a simlpe minded idiot

    https://forbes.com/sites/charleskadlec/2012/07/16/the-dangerous-myth-about-the-bill-clinton-tax-increase/#4f4ec146e8ae

    The 1993 Clinton tax increase raised the top two income tax rates to 36% and 39.6%, with the top rate hitting joint returns with incomes above $250,000 ($400,000 in 2012 dollars). In addition, it removed the cap on the 2.9% Medicare payroll tax, raised the corporate tax rate to 35% from 34%, increased the taxable portion of Social Security benefits, and imposed a 4.3 cent per gallon increase in transportation fuel taxes.

    If these tax increases were good for the middle class, then they should have been popular. Yet, in the 1994 elections, the Democratic Party suffered historic losses. Even though Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell had declared the unpopular HillaryCare dead in September of that year, the Republican Party gained 54 seats in the House and 8 seats in the Senate to win control of both the House and the Senate for the first time since 1952.

    During the first four years of his Presidency, real GDP growth average 3.2%, respectable relative to today’s economy, but disappointing coming as it did following just one year of recovery from the 1991 recession, the end of the Cold War and the reduction in consumer price inflation below 3% for the first time (with the single exception of 1986) since 1965.

    For example, it was a half a percentage point slower than under Reagan during the four years following the first year of the recovery from the 1982 recession.

    However, with his masterful 1995 flip-flop on taxes, President Clinton took the first step toward a successful campaign for re-election and a shift in policy that produced the economic boom that occurred during his second term.

    Welfare reform, which he signed in the summer of 1996, led to a massive reduction in the effective tax rates on the poor by ameliorating the rapid phase out of benefits associated with going to work.
    The phased reduction in tariff and non-tariff barriers between the U.S., Mexico and Canada under the North American Free Trade Agreement continued, leading to increased trade.
    In 1997, Clinton signed a reduction in the (audible liberal gasp) capital gains tax rate to 20% from 28%.
    The 1997 tax cuts also included a phased in increase in the death tax exemption to $1 million from $600,000, and established Roth IRAs and increased the limits for deductible IRAs.
    Annual growth in federal spending was kept to below 3%, or $57 billion.
    The Clinton Administration also maintained its policy of a strong and stable dollar. Over his entire second term, consumer price inflation averaged only 2.4% a year.

    The boom was on. Between the end of 1996 and the end of 2000:

    Economic growth accelerated a full percentage point to 4.2% a year.
    Employment growth nudged higher, to 2.1 million jobs per year as the unemployment rate fell to 4.0% from 5.4%.
    As the tax rate on capital gains came down, real wages made their biggest advance since the implementation of the Reagan tax rate reductions in the mid 1980s. Real average hourly earnings were (in 1982 dollars) $7.43 in 1996, $7.55 in 1997, $7.75 in 1998, $7.86 in 1999, and $7.89 in 2000.
    Millions of Americans shared in the prosperity as the value of their 401(k)s climbed along with the stock market, which saw the price of the S&P 500 index rise 78%.
    Revenue growth accelerated an astounding 59%, increasing on average $143 billion a year. Combined with continued restraint on government spending, that produced a $198 billion budget surplus in 2000.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Bill Clinton must have been the greatest President evah!


    Meanwhile, back in the rational world:

    “In 2019, the last of the baby boomers will reach age 55 and transition into age groups with much lower labor force participation rates. Due in large part to an aging population, the labor force participation rate for all workers (age 16 and over) is projected to decline to 61.0 percent in 2026.”(emphasis added)

    -Bureau of Labor Statistics
    The Clinton era was good. He focused on the economy, stupid. He worked with Congress and the good times rolled

    I go for results. I voted for him twice
    You can’t be right. Income taxes went up from the very start of his presidency. Communism!
    What a simlpe minded idiot

    https://forbes.com/sites/charleskadlec/2012/07/16/the-dangerous-myth-about-the-bill-clinton-tax-increase/#4f4ec146e8ae

    The 1993 Clinton tax increase raised the top two income tax rates to 36% and 39.6%, with the top rate hitting joint returns with incomes above $250,000 ($400,000 in 2012 dollars). In addition, it removed the cap on the 2.9% Medicare payroll tax, raised the corporate tax rate to 35% from 34%, increased the taxable portion of Social Security benefits, and imposed a 4.3 cent per gallon increase in transportation fuel taxes.

    If these tax increases were good for the middle class, then they should have been popular. Yet, in the 1994 elections, the Democratic Party suffered historic losses. Even though Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell had declared the unpopular HillaryCare dead in September of that year, the Republican Party gained 54 seats in the House and 8 seats in the Senate to win control of both the House and the Senate for the first time since 1952.

    During the first four years of his Presidency, real GDP growth average 3.2%, respectable relative to today’s economy, but disappointing coming as it did following just one year of recovery from the 1991 recession, the end of the Cold War and the reduction in consumer price inflation below 3% for the first time (with the single exception of 1986) since 1965.

    For example, it was a half a percentage point slower than under Reagan during the four years following the first year of the recovery from the 1982 recession.

    However, with his masterful 1995 flip-flop on taxes, President Clinton took the first step toward a successful campaign for re-election and a shift in policy that produced the economic boom that occurred during his second term.

    Welfare reform, which he signed in the summer of 1996, led to a massive reduction in the effective tax rates on the poor by ameliorating the rapid phase out of benefits associated with going to work.
    The phased reduction in tariff and non-tariff barriers between the U.S., Mexico and Canada under the North American Free Trade Agreement continued, leading to increased trade.
    In 1997, Clinton signed a reduction in the (audible liberal gasp) capital gains tax rate to 20% from 28%.
    The 1997 tax cuts also included a phased in increase in the death tax exemption to $1 million from $600,000, and established Roth IRAs and increased the limits for deductible IRAs.
    Annual growth in federal spending was kept to below 3%, or $57 billion.
    The Clinton Administration also maintained its policy of a strong and stable dollar. Over his entire second term, consumer price inflation averaged only 2.4% a year.

    The boom was on. Between the end of 1996 and the end of 2000:

    Economic growth accelerated a full percentage point to 4.2% a year.
    Employment growth nudged higher, to 2.1 million jobs per year as the unemployment rate fell to 4.0% from 5.4%.
    As the tax rate on capital gains came down, real wages made their biggest advance since the implementation of the Reagan tax rate reductions in the mid 1980s. Real average hourly earnings were (in 1982 dollars) $7.43 in 1996, $7.55 in 1997, $7.75 in 1998, $7.86 in 1999, and $7.89 in 2000.
    Millions of Americans shared in the prosperity as the value of their 401(k)s climbed along with the stock market, which saw the price of the S&P 500 index rise 78%.
    Revenue growth accelerated an astounding 59%, increasing on average $143 billion a year. Combined with continued restraint on government spending, that produced a $198 billion budget surplus in 2000.
    You know, of course, that you won’t be invited to the GOP barbecue when you say Clinton gets credit for anything. More importantly, the tax cuts you cite didn’t remotely undo the tax increases of 1993, which affected much larger swaths of the population than those targeted cuts did. The economy should have swooned according to your team. It didn’t.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    With the last 3 years the 25-54 age group is almost back to 2007 levels. Its actually pretty impressive.

    Also why HHusky wanted to group the retired folks with them. And I’m sure it’s not because he has daddy issues.



  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    edited February 2020

    With the last 3 years the 25-54 age group is almost back to 2007 levels. Its actually pretty impressive.

    Also why HHusky wanted to group the retired folks with them. And I’m sure it’s not because he has daddy issues.



    Just so you know, there's this large demographic called "Baby Boomers" making its way through the later stages of life. I know it's Daddy Uber Alles for you hens, but the long term decline in the Labor Force Participation Rate says more about the graying of America than it does anything else.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    HHusky said:

    With the last 3 years the 25-54 age group is almost back to 2007 levels. Its actually pretty impressive.

    Also why HHusky wanted to group the retired folks with them. And I’m sure it’s not because he has daddy issues.



    Just so you know, there's this large demographic called "Baby Boomers" making its way through the later stages of life. I know it's Daddy Uber Alles for you hens, but the long term decline in the Labor Force Participation Rate says more about the graying of America than it does anything else.
    Imagine rooting against prosperity.
    Someone should really help you, Mike. You're pressing.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2020

    With the last 3 years the 25-54 age group is almost back to 2007 levels. Its actually pretty impressive.

    Also why HHusky wanted to group the retired folks with them. And I’m sure it’s not because he has daddy issues.



    We know he has daddy issues. He was forced to suck his dads cock and is struggling with those memories. He sees trump as his poppa.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:




    A steep steady decline in the Labor Participation rate all through the Obama years as the Food Stamp President continued to reward people for not working.
    H loved the boomer retirement excuse

    That line looks like its finally going back up
    I guess Bill Clinton must have been the greatest President evah!


    Meanwhile, back in the rational world:

    “In 2019, the last of the baby boomers will reach age 55 and transition into age groups with much lower labor force participation rates. Due in large part to an aging population, the labor force participation rate for all workers (age 16 and over) is projected to decline to 61.0 percent in 2026.”(emphasis added)

    -Bureau of Labor Statistics
    The Clinton era was good. He focused on the economy, stupid. He worked with Congress and the good times rolled

    I go for results. I voted for him twice
    You can’t be right. Income taxes went up from the very start of his presidency. Communism!
    What a simlpe minded idiot

    https://forbes.com/sites/charleskadlec/2012/07/16/the-dangerous-myth-about-the-bill-clinton-tax-increase/#4f4ec146e8ae

    The 1993 Clinton tax increase raised the top two income tax rates to 36% and 39.6%, with the top rate hitting joint returns with incomes above $250,000 ($400,000 in 2012 dollars). In addition, it removed the cap on the 2.9% Medicare payroll tax, raised the corporate tax rate to 35% from 34%, increased the taxable portion of Social Security benefits, and imposed a 4.3 cent per gallon increase in transportation fuel taxes.

    If these tax increases were good for the middle class, then they should have been popular. Yet, in the 1994 elections, the Democratic Party suffered historic losses. Even though Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell had declared the unpopular HillaryCare dead in September of that year, the Republican Party gained 54 seats in the House and 8 seats in the Senate to win control of both the House and the Senate for the first time since 1952.

    During the first four years of his Presidency, real GDP growth average 3.2%, respectable relative to today’s economy, but disappointing coming as it did following just one year of recovery from the 1991 recession, the end of the Cold War and the reduction in consumer price inflation below 3% for the first time (with the single exception of 1986) since 1965.

    For example, it was a half a percentage point slower than under Reagan during the four years following the first year of the recovery from the 1982 recession.

    However, with his masterful 1995 flip-flop on taxes, President Clinton took the first step toward a successful campaign for re-election and a shift in policy that produced the economic boom that occurred during his second term.

    Welfare reform, which he signed in the summer of 1996, led to a massive reduction in the effective tax rates on the poor by ameliorating the rapid phase out of benefits associated with going to work.
    The phased reduction in tariff and non-tariff barriers between the U.S., Mexico and Canada under the North American Free Trade Agreement continued, leading to increased trade.
    In 1997, Clinton signed a reduction in the (audible liberal gasp) capital gains tax rate to 20% from 28%.
    The 1997 tax cuts also included a phased in increase in the death tax exemption to $1 million from $600,000, and established Roth IRAs and increased the limits for deductible IRAs.
    Annual growth in federal spending was kept to below 3%, or $57 billion.
    The Clinton Administration also maintained its policy of a strong and stable dollar. Over his entire second term, consumer price inflation averaged only 2.4% a year.

    The boom was on. Between the end of 1996 and the end of 2000:

    Economic growth accelerated a full percentage point to 4.2% a year.
    Employment growth nudged higher, to 2.1 million jobs per year as the unemployment rate fell to 4.0% from 5.4%.
    As the tax rate on capital gains came down, real wages made their biggest advance since the implementation of the Reagan tax rate reductions in the mid 1980s. Real average hourly earnings were (in 1982 dollars) $7.43 in 1996, $7.55 in 1997, $7.75 in 1998, $7.86 in 1999, and $7.89 in 2000.
    Millions of Americans shared in the prosperity as the value of their 401(k)s climbed along with the stock market, which saw the price of the S&P 500 index rise 78%.
    Revenue growth accelerated an astounding 59%, increasing on average $143 billion a year. Combined with continued restraint on government spending, that produced a $198 billion budget surplus in 2000.
    Clinton had the benefit of the tech boom. His successor dealt with the bust.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,569 Standard Supporter
    Clinton's spending was also constrained by Newt and a much more conservative House. Then they all became swamp people and sold out.