John Donovan named OC
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This is the type of shit we should be doing. Coaching is coaching. Guys that kill it at lower levels are doing something right most the time. I would have been perfectly fine with a move like that. It’s still a risk but at least you have something to be hopeful about and some proof they know what they are doing.GrundleStiltzkin said:I want NDSU's OC.
Sure, Beau Baldwin flamed out at Cal but Yursich was coaching at Nowhere State A&M before Gundy got him to Oklahoma State. We couldn’t get him to probably answer a call for this search. -
Chip Kelly at Maine
Bellotti hit a home run there and lost his job -
Me after reading this entire thread from start to finish
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*New HampshireRaceBannon said:Chip Kelly at Maine
Bellotti hit a home run there and lost his job -
Those are two different things!?DerekJohnson said:
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Also he’s got a tough attitude having grown up in JerseyBaseman said:
You guys are all wrong. Look at the numbers Donovan is a plug and play for the offense. UW won't miss a beat -
One thing I do know is Hamden was terrible at assessing talent.
You don't think he had a hand in starting Fuller and Opera over wideouts with talent?
Just playing guys like Puka, Spiker and McMillan should be an instant boost in the O.
If I'm an O-coordinator who wants be pro-style run first, I'm copying the SF offense. Run guys in motion and throw/run to the vacant area. I'd do that all day. -
I don’t think Pete allowed them to play because they did not show it in practiceBroadcastingDawg said:One thing I do know is Hamden was terrible at assessing talent.
You don't think he had a hand in starting Fuller and Opera over wideouts with talent?
Just playing guys like Puka, Spiker and McMillan should be an instant boost in the O.
If I'm an O-coordinator who wants be pro-style run first, I'm copying the SF offense. Run guys in motion and throw/run to the vacant area. I'd do that all day. -
That always made me laugh.FireCohen said:
I don’t think Pete allowed them to play because they did not show it in practice
I just wanted to ask him when he'd say that shit, but are they showing it in games? -
Pete went full retard his last year. And you never go full retardBroadcastingDawg said:
That always made me laugh.
I just wanted to ask him when he'd say that shit, but are they showing it in games?
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Our route combos have always seemed horrible and often there were two guys in the same area. It’s what happens when you ask all of them to run routes according to the defense’s position. It also makes it hard on QB’s and could be a reason why our QB’s hold the ball so damn long.BroadcastingDawg said:One thing I do know is Hamden was terrible at assessing talent.
You don't think he had a hand in starting Fuller and Opera over wideouts with talent?
Just playing guys like Puka, Spiker and McMillan should be an instant boost in the O.
If I'm an O-coordinator who wants be pro-style run first, I'm copying the SF offense. Run guys in motion and throw/run to the vacant area. I'd do that all day.
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I would give anything to have a mobile QB and run a lot of RPO’s. Passing plays with where if the QB’s one and two aren’t open he takes off and has a safe check down. A mobile QB that can throw is nearly impossible to stop. Not many of them out there tho. I was hoping Yankoff could have been that guy.
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We’re fucked. Simple fact. Cook it.
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Yeah, but it’s also a good way to murder your QB. You have a couple of high ceiling QBs in the pipeline...running a RPO system should work well if you have a great OC.RoadDawg55 said:I would give anything to have a mobile QB and run a lot of RPO’s. Passing plays with where if the QB’s one and two aren’t open he takes off and has a safe check down. A mobile QB that can throw is nearly impossible to stop. Not many of them out there tho. I was hoping Yankoff could have been that guy.
Unfortunately on that front...
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Would be a better hire than Donovan. Not even kidding.rodmansrage said:we? left this guy on the market:
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I wonder if Donovan now regrets leaving Jacksonville? Oh, wait. He wouldn't have even sniffed an interview for this job.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28475805/jaguars-oc-john-defilippo-mutually-part-ways-1-season
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The Jaguars and offensive coordinator John DeFilippo have mutually agreed to part ways after just one season, the team announced Monday. -
Seattle should hire him.BleachedAnusDawg said:I wonder if Donovan now regrets leaving Jacksonville? Oh, wait. He wouldn't have even sniffed an interview for this job.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28475805/jaguars-oc-john-defilippo-mutually-part-ways-1-season
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The Jaguars and offensive coordinator John DeFilippo have mutually agreed to part ways after just one season, the team announced Monday.
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Nobody was hiring Donovan. He barely existed until Lake saved him. You don’t be an offensive analyst and assistant RB coach by choice.BleachedAnusDawg said:I wonder if Donovan now regrets leaving Jacksonville? Oh, wait. He wouldn't have even sniffed an interview for this job.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28475805/jaguars-oc-john-defilippo-mutually-part-ways-1-season
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The Jaguars and offensive coordinator John DeFilippo have mutually agreed to part ways after just one season, the team announced Monday. -
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Going to be a really cool day for Donovan when he retires from a stressful coaching job in a year or two and takes a family job in Colorado with his dad doing finances or whatever.RoadDawg55 said:
Nobody was hiring Donovan. He barely existed until Lake saved him. You don’t be an offensive analyst and assistant RB coach by choice. -
Pueblo, cool fucking city,!!Houhusky said:
Going to be a really cool day for Donovan when he retires from a stressful coaching job in a year or two and takes a family job in Colorado with his dad doing finances or whatever. -
its ok guys he learned from the best
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WilburHooksHands said:
its ok guys he learned from the best
Donovan DEFINITELY didn't feel the ax coming down and tell his old buddy Derhan about it. Nuh uh, no way. Jimmy left no stone unturned in zeroing in on the Big D. ILTCHTBD. -
I think it’s a very solid hire. Good coaches get fired all the time. You have to look at the context of every situation. He did very well as the OC at Vanderbilt and had their offense operating at the highest level in school history. At Penn State, Franklin did not give him the autonomy to run his own offense. He was running Franklin’s offense, while the program was still reeling from sanctions, and he had to work with Christian Hackenberg who is dumb as fuck (think Eason versus Colorado). I think Donovan’s last season at Penn State, they had another shit QB situation in which they burned Trace McSorley’s redshirt halfway through the season to replace another Freshman quarterback who was terrible. Franklin started to feel his seat getting warm after those first two seasons and needed a scapegoat to keep his job and Donovan had to be that guy even though it wasn’t deserved based on the circumstances he was working with.
People want to point to the offense improving under Moorehead as evidence of Donovan being the problem, but that’s not fair at all. First of all, Franklin gave up the reigns and Moorehead had the autonomy to run his own offense. Donovan didn’t. Second of all, McSorley and Barkley were ballers and got better as they got more experience and development because that’s what ballers do and that likely would have been the case under Donovan as well considering what he did at Vanderbilt. People pining for Moorehead to have been the choice are dumb as fuck. He rode Barkley and McSorley and leveraged the success he had with them to get the Mississippi State job. He was hired by Miss. State to run HIS offense and it was a total disaster without the dynamic duo he had at Penn State. Miss. State’s offense was one of the worst in the nation both years he was there and showed zero improvement from year 1 to year 2. Mind you, Moorehead didn’t inherit a dumpster fire. Dan Mullen left that program in a really good place and Moorehead quickly had them trending downward again. I did not want Moorehead and he wasn’t even a candidate for Jimmy so people should stop crying like bitches over it. Let Oregon have him. I don’t care.
It’s obvious Moore was the #1 target. The fact he had to stop and think about leaving the Dallas Cowboys OC job for UW should tell you this is a highly coveted OC job. Rhett Lashlee was further down the list, realized it wasn’t likely he’d get the job, so he did what was best for him and jumped on the Miami job before that job was given to someone else. I think Helfrich and Donovan were next on the list, both interviewed, and Jimmy liked the vision Donovan had more than Helfrich which is fine with me because Jimmy knows his shit and he knows what he wants. Helfrich is more spread. Donovan is more pro-style and Jimmy wants more pro-style. That means less pussy ass bubble screen bullshit and constant passes to underneath drag routes and more of a vertical passing game which is what we need because we have the talent to straight up beat people down the field with both our receivers and TEs. No more, trying to fool people or being conservative. We’re gonna take it to teams and put the pressure on them to try to stop our superior athletes.
For the first time in a while, this offense is going to have an unmistakable IDENTITY and it’s going to be physical and aggressive and I love it and I’m really excited to see what it looks like with our players. Jimmy and I think the same way. I’ve aleady heard him say twice he loves “big, bruising running backs that can wear down defenses in the 4th quarter”. That had me swooning. Now it’s obvious we will still be TEU which I love as well. Donovan has way more talent to work with as an OC than he has ever had before. There may be some growing pains his first season here with another new QB and new system with a lot of young receivers and TE’s getting their first significant playing time, but I think year 2 and beyond, this guy will get the job done. Fucking Bow Down and Go Dawgs!
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Cato was already on UW staffEmoterman said:
Donovan DEFINITELY didn't feel the ax coming down and tell his old buddy Derhan about it. Nuh uh, no way. Jimmy left no stone unturned in zeroing in on the Big D. ILTCHTBD. -
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Donovan calls Cato, on UW staff, tells him he's going to lose his job. Derhan says "bummer bro, but Jimmy loves the smell of my farts, I'll put in a good word for you, he's got no fucking clue who he wants for OC. " 🤷🏻♂️WilburHooksHands said:
Cato was already on UW staff
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This guy has been fired from three NFL teams after one season as OCWilburHooksHands said:its ok guys he learned from the best
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JFC. Is this guy on another forum now? If so, where?FireCohen said:I think it’s a very solid hire. Good coaches get fired all the time. You have to look at the context of every situation. He did very well as the OC at Vanderbilt and had their offense operating at the highest level in school history. At Penn State, Franklin did not give him the autonomy to run his own offense. He was running Franklin’s offense, while the program was still reeling from sanctions, and he had to work with Christian Hackenberg who is dumb as fuck (think Eason versus Colorado). I think Donovan’s last season at Penn State, they had another shit QB situation in which they burned Trace McSorley’s redshirt halfway through the season to replace another Freshman quarterback who was terrible. Franklin started to feel his seat getting warm after those first two seasons and needed a scapegoat to keep his job and Donovan had to be that guy even though it wasn’t deserved based on the circumstances he was working with.
People want to point to the offense improving under Moorehead as evidence of Donovan being the problem, but that’s not fair at all. First of all, Franklin gave up the reigns and Moorehead had the autonomy to run his own offense. Donovan didn’t. Second of all, McSorley and Barkley were ballers and got better as they got more experience and development because that’s what ballers do and that likely would have been the case under Donovan as well considering what he did at Vanderbilt. People pining for Moorehead to have been the choice are dumb as fuck. He rode Barkley and McSorley and leveraged the success he had with them to get the Mississippi State job. He was hired by Miss. State to run HIS offense and it was a total disaster without the dynamic duo he had at Penn State. Miss. State’s offense was one of the worst in the nation both years he was there and showed zero improvement from year 1 to year 2. Mind you, Moorehead didn’t inherit a dumpster fire. Dan Mullen left that program in a really good place and Moorehead quickly had them trending downward again. I did not want Moorehead and he wasn’t even a candidate for Jimmy so people should stop crying like bitches over it. Let Oregon have him. I don’t care.
It’s obvious Moore was the #1 target. The fact he had to stop and think about leaving the Dallas Cowboys OC job for UW should tell you this is a highly coveted OC job. Rhett Lashlee was further down the list, realized it wasn’t likely he’d get the job, so he did what was best for him and jumped on the Miami job before that job was given to someone else. I think Helfrich and Donovan were next on the list, both interviewed, and Jimmy liked the vision Donovan had more than Helfrich which is fine with me because Jimmy knows his shit and he knows what he wants. Helfrich is more spread. Donovan is more pro-style and Jimmy wants more pro-style. That means less pussy ass bubble screen bullshit and constant passes to underneath drag routes and more of a vertical passing game which is what we need because we have the talent to straight up beat people down the field with both our receivers and TEs. No more, trying to fool people or being conservative. We’re gonna take it to teams and put the pressure on them to try to stop our superior athletes.
For the first time in a while, this offense is going to have an unmistakable IDENTITY and it’s going to be physical and aggressive and I love it and I’m really excited to see what it looks like with our players. Jimmy and I think the same way. I’ve aleady heard him say twice he loves “big, bruising running backs that can wear down defenses in the 4th quarter”. That had me swooning. Now it’s obvious we will still be TEU which I love as well. Donovan has way more talent to work with as an OC than he has ever had before. There may be some growing pains his first season here with another new QB and new system with a lot of young receivers and TE’s getting their first significant playing time, but I think year 2 and beyond, this guy will get the job done. Fucking Bow Down and Go Dawgs!
-Ballz
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