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Hindsight is 20/20, but Cohen should have done a coaching search

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,233
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Mere hours after the Vegas Bowl, Jimmy Lake fired his OC. Three long weeks later, he hires the equivalent of John Pettas.

Everything Lake does now is under suspicion. This kind of hire just isn't acceptable
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,233
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    And I should add that Pettas was a very nice man. But I'm talking about results here.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Agree. Sark 2.0
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    BreadBread Member Posts: 3,981
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    RaceBannon said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    Mere hours after the Vegas Bowl, Jimmy Lake fired his OC. Three long weeks later, he hires the equivalent of John Pettas.

    Everything Lake does now is under suspicion. This kind of hire just isn't acceptable

    So how many Division 1 programs have you run Derek?
    Not sure if you have heard of the book "Husky Football in the Don James Era" but Derek Johnson really got into Don James head. That technical gifted writing is equivalent to 21 years as a successful D1 head coach.
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    bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 14,918
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    Can you imagine the fallout if Jen let Jimmy walk?
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    bananasnblondes said:

    Can you imagine the fallout if Jen let Jimmy walk?

    Also true. Leaders have to make their own decisions. And face the consequences if those decisions are bad.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,941
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    MikeDamone said:

    Agree. Sark 2.0

    Sumlin 2.0

    ISAFNRC POTD
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    jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,611
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    We? Are fucked.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    I hear Tennessee is trending up Derek ... I think they are welcoming people to their bandwagon
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    whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,474
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    sonics1993 said:

    No she made the right decision, just have to hope it works. If she did a coaching search and hired someone else the 2020 recruiting class falls apart and the dream 2021 class is over. Then add in the younger talent we have accumulated the last two years adjusting to a new coaching staff and scheme and some of them would undoubtably transfer. Plus if you look at the candidates out there for a HC position they aren't very appealing at all. She did her job now jimmy has to do his.

    Isn't the dream 2021 class over now?
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    sonics1993 said:

    No she made the right decision, just have to hope it works. If she did a coaching search and hired someone else the 2020 recruiting class falls apart and the dream 2021 class is over. Then add in the younger talent we have accumulated the last two years adjusting to a new coaching staff and scheme and some of them would undoubtably transfer. Plus if you look at the candidates out there for a HC position they aren't very appealing at all. She did her job now jimmy has to do his.

    Depends who was hired for the 2021 class. We’ve seen it from Ty and Romar before. Making decisions based on recruiting does not pan out.
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    sonics1993sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    No she made the right decision, just have to hope it works. If she did a coaching search and hired someone else the 2020 recruiting class falls apart and the dream 2021 class is over. Then add in the younger talent we have accumulated the last two years adjusting to a new coaching staff and scheme and some of them would undoubtably transfer. Plus if you look at the candidates out there for a HC position they aren't very appealing at all. She did her job now jimmy has to do his.

    Depends who was hired for the 2021 class. We’ve seen it from Ty and Romar before. Making decisions based on recruiting does not pan out.
    No but it gives us the best shot to win. Unless she hired Urban, the 2021 would be over because recruiting is so fast paced, the new coach would have no chance to build a relationship with the recruits. Plus if we made a coaching change our money would be so depleted that we wouldn't have a chance to upgrade. She made the right move.
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    sonics1993sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
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    whatshouldicareabout said:

    sonics1993 said:

    No she made the right decision, just have to hope it works. If she did a coaching search and hired someone else the 2020 recruiting class falls apart and the dream 2021 class is over. Then add in the younger talent we have accumulated the last two years adjusting to a new coaching staff and scheme and some of them would undoubtably transfer. Plus if you look at the candidates out there for a HC position they aren't very appealing at all. She did her job now jimmy has to do his.

    Isn't the dream 2021 class over now?
    No, recruiting is fine. The OC hiring will have no effects on recruiting.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    sonics1993 said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    sonics1993 said:

    No she made the right decision, just have to hope it works. If she did a coaching search and hired someone else the 2020 recruiting class falls apart and the dream 2021 class is over. Then add in the younger talent we have accumulated the last two years adjusting to a new coaching staff and scheme and some of them would undoubtably transfer. Plus if you look at the candidates out there for a HC position they aren't very appealing at all. She did her job now jimmy has to do his.

    Isn't the dream 2021 class over now?
    No, recruiting is fine. The OC hiring will have no effects on recruiting.
    I hope this is correct.

    We need to get as many of these kids locked up before the season starts as possible.
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    AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 6,994
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    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    No she made the right decision, just have to hope it works. If she did a coaching search and hired someone else the 2020 recruiting class falls apart and the dream 2021 class is over. Then add in the younger talent we have accumulated the last two years adjusting to a new coaching staff and scheme and some of them would undoubtably transfer. Plus if you look at the candidates out there for a HC position they aren't very appealing at all. She did her job now jimmy has to do his.

    Depends who was hired for the 2021 class. We’ve seen it from Ty and Romar before. Making decisions based on recruiting does not pan out.
    No but it gives us the best shot to win. Unless she hired Urban, the 2021 would be over because recruiting is so fast paced, the new coach would have no chance to build a relationship with the recruits. Plus if we made a coaching change our money would be so depleted that we wouldn't have a chance to upgrade. She made the right move.
    If this move works out jimmy is truly a genius. If it doesn’t, this is program suicide. No not 0-12 but a return to winning 6-8 games a year.

    It’s also inexcusable that they are paying him more than bush and put him on a 3 year contract. The lack of negotiation skills is truly appalling.

    Where is all the unused money from the coaching budget going?
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    sonics1993 said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sonics1993 said:

    No she made the right decision, just have to hope it works. If she did a coaching search and hired someone else the 2020 recruiting class falls apart and the dream 2021 class is over. Then add in the younger talent we have accumulated the last two years adjusting to a new coaching staff and scheme and some of them would undoubtably transfer. Plus if you look at the candidates out there for a HC position they aren't very appealing at all. She did her job now jimmy has to do his.

    Depends who was hired for the 2021 class. We’ve seen it from Ty and Romar before. Making decisions based on recruiting does not pan out.
    No but it gives us the best shot to win. Unless she hired Urban, the 2021 would be over because recruiting is so fast paced, the new coach would have no chance to build a relationship with the recruits. Plus if we made a coaching change our money would be so depleted that we wouldn't have a chance to upgrade. She made the right move.
    The mistake is thinking that recruiting is all about relationships. It certainly matters a lot. However, Huard was coming to UW almost no matter what. He would give any coach a real chance at securing his commitment. Him alone will get guys intrigued by UW.

    Some guys will stay home if you recruit them hard because their parents prefer that. Some kids simply want the easiest path to playing time combined with the the best school football wise that has offered them.

    Yes, certain players would not come to UW if we hired another coach. However, others would. And then you also are hiring assistants from other schools that have relationships of their own with these prospects. The class wouldn’t look the exact same, but we don’t even know what it will look like now.

    It’s not a zero sum game. Hiring Lake was not the only way we could have a monster 2021 class.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    sonics1993 said:

    dnc said:

    sonics1993 said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    sonics1993 said:

    No she made the right decision, just have to hope it works. If she did a coaching search and hired someone else the 2020 recruiting class falls apart and the dream 2021 class is over. Then add in the younger talent we have accumulated the last two years adjusting to a new coaching staff and scheme and some of them would undoubtably transfer. Plus if you look at the candidates out there for a HC position they aren't very appealing at all. She did her job now jimmy has to do his.

    Isn't the dream 2021 class over now?
    No, recruiting is fine. The OC hiring will have no effects on recruiting.
    I hope this is correct.

    We need to get as many of these kids locked up before the season starts as possible.
    Most of the recruits will have decided before the season even begins.
    Agree
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