Oregon’s Meathead Mexican

creepycoug said:

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YellowSnow said:

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Gladstone said:

Oregon got fourth best in big ten Wisconsin and we got Urban last game Ohio State. That's it. The end. Go home.

Should we throw your RB trophy against Purdue in the lake? For Purdue to win the Big Ten Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State would have to be .500 teams, which they were that year.

Only a Doog would talk shit about a trophy they haven't won in 20 years.

Looking back, most of UWs Rose bowl victories were against pretty mediocre big ten teams. Awesome wins over some 8-4 Iowa squads

The correct opinion is it doesn't matter who you're playing in the rose bowl. It didn't matter who Oregon played this year.

It didn't matter who UW played last year.

It doesn’t ultimately matter but when some here say Cristobal did more than Pete, it’s a simplistic statement that is kind of stupid. He hasn’t yet.

A playoff game is better than a Rose Bowl win and Ohio State was a lot better than Wisconsin. If we had a beat a Wisconsin type team people would still say Pete hadn’t won a big game against a tough opponent.

Nobody really remembers that tho, so I do get it. Purdue wasn’t anything special in 2000. I still enjoyed it a lot.

It's not simplistic or stupid at all unless you're into "but, but, but" loser excuses. He's certainly done more relative to tenure; that's impossible to dispute.

He also walked into a much bigger pile of shit than did Pete. He's also 2-0 vs. Pete, and Pete had a 5-year head start to build his program. And he won both bowls he played in. The Rose Bowl against this Wisky team is very, very comparable to the PSU team that Washington took on in the Fiesta. Mario won and Pete lost. I won't even argue that point anymore because it's fucking retarded to debate otherwise.

Also, the Haskins-led Buckeyes were not the juggernaut people are starting to remember them as being. Look at their schedule and results for 2018. They didn't run through the season beating the shit out of everyone. 2019 OSU was significantly better than 2018 OSU. Was 2018 OSU better than 2019 Wisconsin? Sure, I'll concede that. But they weren't world's a part. This is part 1b of the Doog Oregon Rose Bowl narrative.

Lastly, close games. It's not close. The Oregon Cristobals have been much better in close games.

I used to be somewhat of a fan of Toothy. The more we talk about this, the more I see how overrated he was. He brought an adult presence to the program when they needed it. Not sure he brought much more than that.

I'd beg to differ with you on this point. Mario took over a team that had just had a couple of down years and some corching turmoil BUT was still a nationally relevant program, especially in the eyes of the kids. Oregon was still rich, cool and a mere 4 years removed from playing for a NT. Pete took over a program that hadn't been relevant in 14 years.

Pete underachieved at Washington. He was too focused on process over winning games. Overall, we're still in a pretty good place right now.

Pete made it a bigger shit pile than it really was. He was worried about the cleanliness of the locker room, whether helmets were put on the ground. The discipline was lacking, but some coaches make a bigger deal out of that stuff than others. We sure as fuck shouldn’t have been eeking out a one point win against Hawaii and giving up 52 to Eastern.

He didn’t have a QB but the rest of the roster was pretty good, especially the best 5-10 players on the team.

Agree. Objectively, Pete, was a success at UW. 2 Pac titles and 3 NY6 bowls is something any of us would have been happy with in Dec. 2013.

But, there's no doubt his "process" and stubbornness cost us, at least, 6 or 7 games over the course of his tenure here.

This, right her, is a reasonable basis on which to make the claim that he was not a success, but rather a failure.

I can tell you this: if someone shows up and takes Miami from where they are now and, 6 or 7 years from now all I? have to show for it are a few shitty league titles in the shitty ACC and zero, 0, ZERO, non-shit-tier bowl wins, I'm going to conclude the hiring was a giant whiff.

Stop stumping for toothy. He's in a boat laffing at you guysms now.

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