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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,044 Founders Club

    Wisky was PSU two years ago. Same running back story and everything.

    No. That Penn State had way more talent. Better QB, better TE, better WR’s.

    Both had great RB’s but Barkley was one of the fastest players in the country at 230 pounds.

    No team can afford all those turnovers, but that is especially true for a team that doesn’t throw the ball well.
    Let's dig into this a little.

    First, it's a little disingenuous to glibly reference Wisky as a "4-loss team". I know you didn't, but someone else did. Penn State was a 2-loss team in 2017, but didn't have to play Ohio State twice because they weren't in the conference championship game, and the fourth loss would have been to Washington, except it wasn't. Wisky had to play OSU twice, and lost the Rose Bowl because they weren't playing Washington.

    Second, IDR care how fast Barkeley was; Taylor is one of the most prolific running backs in cfb history. #s don't lie. Facts. Boom. 'nuff said.

    Next, let's examine this claim of a much better QB:

    McSorley in 2017: 284 427 3,570 12.6 85 66.5 28 10 162.4 (attempts, completions, yards, average, long, completion %, TDs, Ints, Rating)
    Coan in 2019: 195 271 2,307 8.5 70 72.3 17 4 161.6 (same order)

    Much better? I'd say an offense with a different approach to playing. McSorley threw it WAY more than Coan. It's hard to just say McSorley was much better. In 2018, McSorley's #s were far different when he didn't put it up nearly as often (from 284 attempts to 192, closer to what Coan threw this year).

    In terms of much better talent overall, on what basis? Do you actually know this? Things like this are easy to say. But I'm guessing it's not really true.

    Lastly, the claim of a much better defense. Let's compare the only measure that matters: points allowed.

    Penn State 2017: 214 points surrendered. Wisky 2019: 237 points surrendered, including two games against Ohio State against one for Penn State.

    I don't blame you. Wisky is annually amongst the most criminally underchinned programs in the country. People forget about them until they start racking up wins and everybody assumes they're just a bunch of try-hard cheese head white guys. Their NFL production tells a much different story.

    Let's face it. The comparison of 2019 Wisky and 2017 PSU is close enough to shut down the doogery. Creep prevails once again. That's the only point here. Doogs like Gladdy grasping at straws, which is sad af.
    I agree that the win is a win but c'mon Creep. Wisky is always tier 2 in the Big 10 in a good year for them. No need to pretend otherwise. If you gotta pick two teams from each conference to go as "flagship" Wisky ain't making it. If it wasn't for the division splits how many times would Wisky have even made it to the CCG in the big 10?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    You're better than this. First, we're not discussing conference history. Generalizing is the rhetorical tool of the man losing the argument.

    We're comparing two specific teams and the suggestion that 2017 PSU was better than 2019 Wisky, and nobody has been able to substantiate the claim.

    If we are talking about B10 in general, the order goes Ohio State, then Wisky and everybody else. Just look at the results. They support my stance.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    The doog revisionist history on that penn state team is funny.
  • This is stupid. In the grand scheme of things, if Oregon somehow played an 8-4 Indiana team in the Rose Bowl and won, a will is still a win. The opponent doesn't matter. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Win or GTFO. Talking about the great teams you lost to is loser talk. If you want to be losers, then please continue. Sean Connery said it best " Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    Wisky was PSU two years ago. Same running back story and everything.

    PSU had a QB who could complete a pass longer than 7 yards.
    So did Wisky. Different offensive philosophy. I will take these numbers from my QB all day if I have Taylor: 195 completetions on 271 attempts for 2,307 yards. 72.3% completion %. 17 TDs 4 picks 161.6 QB rating.

    You're also ignoring the fact that Oregon's defense kept the nation's best running back under 100 yards for the game. Remind me how Barkley did in the Fiesta.
    137 with a long of 92. That's not why they lost they game.
    So we're going to try to drill down to one or two reasons why Washington lost and then compare/contrast? Fuck outta here. Oregon contained a phenomenal running back that has run over everybody; Washington gave up a big score to Barkley. I don't care. Oregon didn't let Taylor beat them; Washington let Barkley at least help beat them.

    This discussion is ridiculous and for losers. Thanks @Gladstone for starting such a doogy sub-thread.
    You brought it up. Quit living up to your name.
    Fuck off.

    And I brought it up because it stands. If you want to support the doog narrative that the B10 opponent was some shit fourth-tier team in its own conference, then go ahead and park your head up your ass when you usually keep it.

    But I'm going to do what I do and drive you and your friends crazy in the process.
    Disagree
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    Wisky was PSU two years ago. Same running back story and everything.

    PSU had a QB who could complete a pass longer than 7 yards.
    So did Wisky. Different offensive philosophy. I will take these numbers from my QB all day if I have Taylor: 195 completetions on 271 attempts for 2,307 yards. 72.3% completion %. 17 TDs 4 picks 161.6 QB rating.

    You're also ignoring the fact that Oregon's defense kept the nation's best running back under 100 yards for the game. Remind me how Barkley did in the Fiesta.
    137 with a long of 92. That's not why they lost they game.
    So we're going to try to drill down to one or two reasons why Washington lost and then compare/contrast? Fuck outta here. Oregon contained a phenomenal running back that has run over everybody; Washington gave up a big score to Barkley. I don't care. Oregon didn't let Taylor beat them; Washington let Barkley at least help beat them.

    This discussion is ridiculous and for losers. Thanks @Gladstone for starting such a doogy sub-thread.
    You brought it up. Quit living up to your name.
    Fuck off.

    And I brought it up because it stands. If you want to support the doog narrative that the B10 opponent was some shit fourth-tier team in its own conference, then go ahead and park your head up your ass when you usually keep it.

    But I'm going to do what I do and drive you and your friends crazy in the process.
    Disagree
    You're too late. I won.

    Like I always do.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Whats going on here in this thread? Havent paid much attention. Believe there's a little cuban man or 2 involved.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    Wisky was PSU two years ago. Same running back story and everything.

    PSU had a QB who could complete a pass longer than 7 yards.
    So did Wisky. Different offensive philosophy. I will take these numbers from my QB all day if I have Taylor: 195 completetions on 271 attempts for 2,307 yards. 72.3% completion %. 17 TDs 4 picks 161.6 QB rating.

    You're also ignoring the fact that Oregon's defense kept the nation's best running back under 100 yards for the game. Remind me how Barkley did in the Fiesta.
    137 with a long of 92. That's not why they lost they game.
    So we're going to try to drill down to one or two reasons why Washington lost and then compare/contrast? Fuck outta here. Oregon contained a phenomenal running back that has run over everybody; Washington gave up a big score to Barkley. I don't care. Oregon didn't let Taylor beat them; Washington let Barkley at least help beat them.

    This discussion is ridiculous and for losers. Thanks @Gladstone for starting such a doogy sub-thread.
    You brought it up. Quit living up to your name.
    Fuck off.

    And I brought it up because it stands. If you want to support the doog narrative that the B10 opponent was some shit fourth-tier team in its own conference, then go ahead and park your head up your ass when you usually keep it.

    But I'm going to do what I do and drive you and your friends crazy in the process.
    Disagree
    You're too late. I won.

    Like I always do.
    You won vicariously through the Ducks. Your team still sucks.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    Wisky was PSU two years ago. Same running back story and everything.

    PSU had a QB who could complete a pass longer than 7 yards.
    So did Wisky. Different offensive philosophy. I will take these numbers from my QB all day if I have Taylor: 195 completetions on 271 attempts for 2,307 yards. 72.3% completion %. 17 TDs 4 picks 161.6 QB rating.

    You're also ignoring the fact that Oregon's defense kept the nation's best running back under 100 yards for the game. Remind me how Barkley did in the Fiesta.
    137 with a long of 92. That's not why they lost they game.
    So we're going to try to drill down to one or two reasons why Washington lost and then compare/contrast? Fuck outta here. Oregon contained a phenomenal running back that has run over everybody; Washington gave up a big score to Barkley. I don't care. Oregon didn't let Taylor beat them; Washington let Barkley at least help beat them.

    This discussion is ridiculous and for losers. Thanks @Gladstone for starting such a doogy sub-thread.
    You brought it up. Quit living up to your name.
    Fuck off.

    And I brought it up because it stands. If you want to support the doog narrative that the B10 opponent was some shit fourth-tier team in its own conference, then go ahead and park your head up your ass when you usually keep it.

    But I'm going to do what I do and drive you and your friends crazy in the process.
    Disagree
    You're too late. I won.

    Like I always do.
    You won vicariously through the Ducks. Your team still sucks.
    I won here right here [X}.

    Where you lost.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    Whats going on here in this thread? Havent paid much attention. Believe there's a little cuban man or 2 involved.

    You better fucking believe it Paco.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Whats going on here in this thread? Havent paid much attention. Believe there's a little cuban man or 2 involved.

    You better fucking believe it Paco.
    Well


    Carry on then
  • Theironshiek
    Theironshiek Member Posts: 167
    Threads on this site go from 1 page to 7 for no reason what so ever. 6 of the pages are just people calling each other stupid because they don’t agree with someone else’s opinion.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    Wisky was PSU two years ago. Same running back story and everything.

    PSU had a QB who could complete a pass longer than 7 yards.
    So did Wisky. Different offensive philosophy. I will take these numbers from my QB all day if I have Taylor: 195 completetions on 271 attempts for 2,307 yards. 72.3% completion %. 17 TDs 4 picks 161.6 QB rating.

    You're also ignoring the fact that Oregon's defense kept the nation's best running back under 100 yards for the game. Remind me how Barkley did in the Fiesta.
    137 with a long of 92. That's not why they lost they game.
    So we're going to try to drill down to one or two reasons why Washington lost and then compare/contrast? Fuck outta here. Oregon contained a phenomenal running back that has run over everybody; Washington gave up a big score to Barkley. I don't care. Oregon didn't let Taylor beat them; Washington let Barkley at least help beat them.

    This discussion is ridiculous and for losers. Thanks @Gladstone for starting such a doogy sub-thread.
    You brought it up. Quit living up to your name.
    Fuck off.

    And I brought it up because it stands. If you want to support the doog narrative that the B10 opponent was some shit fourth-tier team in its own conference, then go ahead and park your head up your ass when you usually keep it.

    But I'm going to do what I do and drive you and your friends crazy in the process.
    Disagree
    You're too late. I won.

    Like I always do.
    You bet me the Coogs would win the Apple Cup. Then you went double or nothing the next year.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    Threads on this site go from 1 page to 7 for no reason what so ever. 6 of the pages are just people calling each other stupid because they don’t agree with someone else’s opinion.

    And? That's what makes this place great.

    You can always go to doogfarm. I'm sure the circle jerk threads there are nice and short.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    edited January 2020
    dflea said:

    Wisky was PSU two years ago. Same running back story and everything.

    PSU had a QB who could complete a pass longer than 7 yards.
    So did Wisky. Different offensive philosophy. I will take these numbers from my QB all day if I have Taylor: 195 completetions on 271 attempts for 2,307 yards. 72.3% completion %. 17 TDs 4 picks 161.6 QB rating.

    You're also ignoring the fact that Oregon's defense kept the nation's best running back under 100 yards for the game. Remind me how Barkley did in the Fiesta.
    137 with a long of 92. That's not why they lost they game.
    So we're going to try to drill down to one or two reasons why Washington lost and then compare/contrast? Fuck outta here. Oregon contained a phenomenal running back that has run over everybody; Washington gave up a big score to Barkley. I don't care. Oregon didn't let Taylor beat them; Washington let Barkley at least help beat them.

    This discussion is ridiculous and for losers. Thanks @Gladstone for starting such a doogy sub-thread.
    You brought it up. Quit living up to your name.
    Fuck off.

    And I brought it up because it stands. If you want to support the doog narrative that the B10 opponent was some shit fourth-tier team in its own conference, then go ahead and park your head up your ass when you usually keep it.

    But I'm going to do what I do and drive you and your friends crazy in the process.
    Disagree
    You're too late. I won.

    Like I always do.
    You bet me the Coogs would win the Apple Cup. Then you went double or nothing the next year.

    Except for those two times.

    And I have a weakness for my alma mater. Sue me.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Gladstone said:

    Oregon got fourth best in big ten Wisconsin and we got Urban last game Ohio State. That's it. The end. Go home.

    Should we throw your RB trophy against Purdue in the lake? For Purdue to win the Big Ten Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State would have to be .500 teams, which they were that year.

    Only a Doog would talk shit about a trophy they haven't won in 20 years.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    Mosster47 said:

    Gladstone said:

    Oregon got fourth best in big ten Wisconsin and we got Urban last game Ohio State. That's it. The end. Go home.

    Should we throw your RB trophy against Purdue in the lake? For Purdue to win the Big Ten Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State would have to be .500 teams, which they were that year.

    Only a Doog would talk shit about a trophy they haven't won in 20 years.
    Imagine getting owned by a poster who coached in the highest classification of high school football in Alabama.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    edited January 2020

    Imagine getting owned by a poster who coached in the highest classification of high school football in Alabama.

    Alabama is a football state, after all.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    Mosster47 said:

    Gladstone said:

    Oregon got fourth best in big ten Wisconsin and we got Urban last game Ohio State. That's it. The end. Go home.

    Should we throw your RB trophy against Purdue in the lake? For Purdue to win the Big Ten Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State would have to be .500 teams, which they were that year.

    Only a Doog would talk shit about a trophy they haven't won in 20 years.
    Looking back, most of UWs Rose bowl victories were against pretty mediocre big ten teams. Awesome wins over some 8-4 Iowa squads
  • longduckdong
    longduckdong Member Posts: 1,056

    This is stupid. In the grand scheme of things, if Oregon somehow played an 8-4 Indiana team in the Rose Bowl and won, a will is still a win. The opponent doesn't matter. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Win or GTFO. Talking about the great teams you lost to is loser talk. If you want to be losers, then please continue. Sean Connery said it best " Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

    You are using move quotes from a nearly 25 year old movie starring Nick Cage? Such a fag.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Gladstone said:

    Oregon got fourth best in big ten Wisconsin and we got Urban last game Ohio State. That's it. The end. Go home.

    Should we throw your RB trophy against Purdue in the lake? For Purdue to win the Big Ten Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State would have to be .500 teams, which they were that year.

    Only a Doog would talk shit about a trophy they haven't won in 20 years.
    Looking back, most of UWs Rose bowl victories were against pretty mediocre big ten teams. Awesome wins over some 8-4 Iowa squads
    The correct opinion is it doesn't matter who you're playing in the rose bowl. It didn't matter who Oregon played this year.

    It didn't matter who UW played last year.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,086
    Expected to find pics here of the hot piece that he puts his Mexican meat in. Instead this bullshit.

    How far this place has fallen.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Gladstone said:

    Oh I'm on board that we've been soft dick losers in every game with a pulse, but the Rose Bowl emo meltdown is a bit much as Wisconsin is a billion orders of magnitude shittier than that Ohio State team.

    Sorry kiddos.

    No doubt. Wisconsin is garbage.This is Tui beating Purdue level stuff here. Thing is I was at the Tui beating shitty ass Purdue Rose Bowel and I don't really ever think about the fact we beat a shitty team to win it. I just think about the feeling of winning it. Nobody ever remembers you beat a shit team. They just remember you are winners.

    Credit to Cristoball. I thought he was going to be a shitbag. Turns out he won a Rose Bowl in year 2 while we were on the 6 year "process plan" to lose one.

    Gay ass #FlexFriday works. Who knew?
    The last time UW won a Rose Bowl it was in standard definition and you beat #14 AP/coaches, #17 BCS, Purdue.

    Nobody cares.

    Into the trophy case with a Black XL T-shirt.

    That's pretty much what he wrote. Thanks for the translation into duck
    You’re correct. Probably quoted the wrong guy.

    Was still fun to write though.

    I'm glad we got this sorted. Race taught me many moons ago not to be one of those fags who diminishes winners. Winners win, and losers talk about why winners shouldn't be winners.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    edited January 2020
    ntxduck said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Gladstone said:

    Oregon got fourth best in big ten Wisconsin and we got Urban last game Ohio State. That's it. The end. Go home.

    Should we throw your RB trophy against Purdue in the lake? For Purdue to win the Big Ten Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State would have to be .500 teams, which they were that year.

    Only a Doog would talk shit about a trophy they haven't won in 20 years.
    Looking back, most of UWs Rose bowl victories were against pretty mediocre big ten teams. Awesome wins over some 8-4 Iowa squads
    Exactly. Nobody ever cares who you beat, just that you won. Wisconsin is hot garbage. And so was Purdue. And so was Iowa. Etc. NOGAF. Winners win and hoist trophies. Losers diddle themselves in the losers locker room and talk about how TUFF Ohio State was.
  • PandaOrangeChiknDuck
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    edited January 2020

    This is stupid. In the grand scheme of things, if Oregon somehow played an 8-4 Indiana team in the Rose Bowl and won, a will is still a win. The opponent doesn't matter. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. Win or GTFO. Talking about the great teams you lost to is loser talk. If you want to be losers, then please continue. Sean Connery said it best " Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

    You are using move quotes from a nearly 25 year old movie starring Nick Cage? Such a fag.
    It’s Sean Connery’s line, and the movie is actually pretty good. One of the few decent movies with Nick Cage. If you don’t like action movies like The Rock, then maybe serendipity is more your speed.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    If we're bashing Serendipity, I'm fucking out.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Gladstone said:

    Oh I'm on board that we've been soft dick losers in every game with a pulse, but the Rose Bowl emo meltdown is a bit much as Wisconsin is a billion orders of magnitude shittier than that Ohio State team.

    Sorry kiddos.

    No doubt. Wisconsin is garbage.This is Tui beating Purdue level stuff here. Thing is I was at the Tui beating shitty ass Purdue Rose Bowel and I don't really ever think about the fact we beat a shitty team to win it. I just think about the feeling of winning it. Nobody ever remembers you beat a shit team. They just remember you are winners.

    Credit to Cristoball. I thought he was going to be a shitbag. Turns out he won a Rose Bowl in year 2 while we were on the 6 year "process plan" to lose one.

    Gay ass #FlexFriday works. Who knew?
    The last time UW won a Rose Bowl it was in standard definition and you beat #14 AP/coaches, #17 BCS, Purdue.

    Nobody cares.

    Into the trophy case with a Black XL T-shirt.

    That's pretty much what he wrote. Thanks for the translation into duck
    You’re correct. Probably quoted the wrong guy.

    Was still fun to write though.

    I'm glad we got this sorted. Race taught me many moons ago not to be one of those fags who diminishes winners. Winners win, and losers talk about why winners shouldn't be winners.
    @Gladstone ? True?
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Gladstone said:

    Oh I'm on board that we've been soft dick losers in every game with a pulse, but the Rose Bowl emo meltdown is a bit much as Wisconsin is a billion orders of magnitude shittier than that Ohio State team.

    Sorry kiddos.

    No doubt. Wisconsin is garbage.This is Tui beating Purdue level stuff here. Thing is I was at the Tui beating shitty ass Purdue Rose Bowel and I don't really ever think about the fact we beat a shitty team to win it. I just think about the feeling of winning it. Nobody ever remembers you beat a shit team. They just remember you are winners.

    Credit to Cristoball. I thought he was going to be a shitbag. Turns out he won a Rose Bowl in year 2 while we were on the 6 year "process plan" to lose one.

    Gay ass #FlexFriday works. Who knew?
    The last time UW won a Rose Bowl it was in standard definition and you beat #14 AP/coaches, #17 BCS, Purdue.

    Nobody cares.

    Into the trophy case with a Black XL T-shirt.

    That's pretty much what he wrote. Thanks for the translation into duck
    You’re correct. Probably quoted the wrong guy.

    Was still fun to write though.

    I'm glad we got this sorted. Race taught me many moons ago not to be one of those fags who diminishes winners. Winners win, and losers talk about why winners shouldn't be winners.
    @Gladstone ? True?
    Cubans really like to start shit, eh?