Why I'm excited, and why you might also be excited for 2020!
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Ossai?
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we only have to put up with this kind of thread till the end of August.
I started to read it then figured it was written by someone who lives in his two dads basement. TLDR until August 1st -
Curn will be in the mix too. He split tim with with Bowman at RT and looked pretty solid I thought.BroadcastingDawg said:Offense:
Mele really emerged as a viable option at center in times that Harris went down. While most people were fans of Harris, it's undeniable that sometimes his lack of size was a liability and he had times where he struggled in pass pro against stronger defenders. He was always a great puller in the run game, and that's def an attribute we'll miss... but Mele goes 6'5 315 lbs... that difference in reach is huge and Mele is a real talent. It was clear Adams lost a step this season and he even admitted his body will never be the same following all the injuries he suffered... I think there's a chance we see a young-buck start at left tackle just like Tre did 5 years ago: Nate Kalepo, Julius Buelow and Roger Rosengarten could all vie for starting roles at the LT and RT for the Dawgs again, like Tre and McGary did as youngsters. I also see MJ Ale in that mix as well. Kirkland, Wattenberg and Bainivalu will all be back at the guard position, hopefully acting as the glue that helps hold things together for the young guys. -
Nothing says 2 dads and basement like some asshole who wishes the Huskies are out of it by August 1st.LebamDawg said:we only have to put up with this kind of thread till the end of August.
I started to read it then figured it was written by someone who lives in his two dads basement. TLDR until August 1st
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a little sensitive, are we?BroadcastingDawg said:
Nothing says 2 dads and basement like some asshole who wishes the Huskies are out of it by August 1st.LebamDawg said:we only have to put up with this kind of thread till the end of August.
I started to read it then figured it was written by someone who lives in his two dads basement. TLDR until August 1st
The fuck is wrong with you?
you made me change my mind by that post
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Your post was fine, but I stopped reading at Newton is a more athletic Chris Polk.
Um...no. You guys stroking yourselves over him should rein it in a bit. Hes not a feature back. He's a good platoon guy with average size, better than average strength at size, and below average speed.
Polk had high 4.4 to low 4.5 speed at 220 lbs and was as capable and accomplished as a receiver as the guys playing receiver on those teams. He was also harder to tackle than Newton.
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BBB vs BWBBleachedAnusDawg said:
Did you just compare a black guy and a white guy?DerekJohnson said:
Dick Newton reminds me of Pat ConniffBroadcastingDawg said:Dick Newton "lacks the wiggle" to be a starter... yeah he just mauls fuckers on a team that wants a physical RB. Cam Davis is not going to be starting over or getting more carries than Newton next year.
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Not comparing him to Sankey... not at all. Different players.chuck said:Your post was fine, but I stopped reading at Newton is a more athletic Chris Polk.
Um...no. You guys stroking yourselves over him should rein it in a bit. Hes not a feature back. He's a good platoon guy with average size, better than average strength at size, and below average speed.
Polk had high 4.4 to low 4.5 speed at 220 lbs and was as capable and accomplished as a receiver as the guys playing receiver on those teams. He was also harder to tackle than Newton.
I get huffy about disrespect for Polk and Sankey. Fucking recency bias.
I do think he and Polk are similar though.
And I'm not sure how you can discount someone's abilities until they get feature back carries, especially as a freshman. I saw Newton hit some really nice runs to the second level yesterday when he was given the reps. -
Quit pretending that Kalepo will vie for a starting job. He won’t and never will.
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You're saying that, why?RoadDawg55 said:Quit pretending that Kalepo will vie for a starting job. He won’t and never will.
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Yes, I have.backthepack said:I like Dick Newton. He’s just not good enough. Have you seen Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, Clyde Edwards Helaire, De’Andre Swift, Najee Harris etc.?
Nobody like that exists on the UW roster.
This is why people tell you to shut up. That Ballz character really got into your head and made you retarded. -
He can’t even hold the bag.BroadcastingDawg said:
You're saying that, why?RoadDawg55 said:Quit pretending that Kalepo will vie for a starting job. He won’t and never will.
And Polk and newton are nothing alike. I like newton. But Polk had speed and broke plenty of long runs.
Not sure newton will ever be that guy. He may be an every down back. Not sure yet. I would lean toward no. -
Neither did Greg Lewis. (Google him youngster)backthepack said:
Because one game against Boise makes it true!! He’s a good situational guy. He lacks the wiggle to be a legit starter. Salvon and Cam Davis are both better optionsBroadcastingDawg said: -
Exactly Creep.creepycoug said:
Yes, I have.backthepack said:I like Dick Newton. He’s just not good enough. Have you seen Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, Clyde Edwards Helaire, De’Andre Swift, Najee Harris etc.?
Nobody like that exists on the UW roster.
This is why people tell you to shut up. That Ballz character really got into your head and made you retarded.
Even if we did have one of these guys on the roster... they're not running behind an Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Ohio St. or Wisconsin OL. Not to mention Najee Harris and De'Andre Swift were like the top RB's in their classes.
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Why are you eliminating freshman already?AtomicDawg said:
He can’t even hold the bag.BroadcastingDawg said:
You're saying that, why?RoadDawg55 said:Quit pretending that Kalepo will vie for a starting job. He won’t and never will.
And Polk and newton are nothing alike. I like newton. But Polk had speed and broke plenty of long runs.
Not sure newton will ever be that guy. He may be an every down back. Not sure yet. I would lean toward no.
Newton has shown nothing but positives in his freshman year. You really think he can't get better? This is just who he is? Last I checked Polk avg'd 1.7 yards per carry on 20 carries?
And Kalepo is just done huh? Man, guess they should just revoke his scholarship now.
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Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad -
I really don't care... I see that Polk avg'd 1.7 yards on 20 carries his first go around. I see that Newton avg'd 4.3 and had 10 TD's... I think they are the same kind of back, bruisers who make their money carrying guys and breaking arm tackles. You really think people were high on Polk after '08? Difference is Newton has actually shown you something!AtomicDawg said:Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad
I think Newton will eventually hit some long runs when he's settled into a starting role on this O. To just expect him to come out and burn guys for 50+ yarders his first season is insane. Especially in an offense that nobody liked the play calling and the passing offense we mediocre at best. Hitting on long runs is seldom just because the running back is fast, it takes catching the D in a bad set, effective blocking at multiple levels... opposing D's didn't respect our ability to pass it down the field all year and stacked the box to stop the run.
20 other D1 programs thought Kalepo was worthy of a scholarship... including USC and Oregon... discounting him is nuts at this point in his career. -
Then you can’t be helped. You obviously started watching football very recently. Don’t let logic get in the way of any assumptions and doog the fuck out.BroadcastingDawg said:
I really don't care... I see that Polk avg'd 1.7 yards on 20 carries his first go around. I see that Newton avg'd 4.3 and had 10 TD's... I think they are the same kind of back, bruisers who make their money carrying guys and breaking arm tackles. You really think people were high on Polk after '08? Difference is Newton has actually shown you something!AtomicDawg said:Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad
I think Newton will eventually hit some long runs when he's settled into a starting role on this O. To just expect him to come out and burn guys for 50+ yarders his first season is insane. Especially in an offense that nobody liked the play calling and the passing offense we mediocre at best.
20 other D1 programs thought Kalepo was worthy of a scholarship... including USC and Oregon... discounting him is nuts at this point in his career.
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Fuck off moron. Your opinion isn't worth any more than mine.AtomicDawg said:
Then you can’t be helped. You obviously started watching football very recently. Don’t let logic get in the way of any assumptions and doog the fuck out.BroadcastingDawg said:
I really don't care... I see that Polk avg'd 1.7 yards on 20 carries his first go around. I see that Newton avg'd 4.3 and had 10 TD's... I think they are the same kind of back, bruisers who make their money carrying guys and breaking arm tackles. You really think people were high on Polk after '08? Difference is Newton has actually shown you something!AtomicDawg said:Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad
I think Newton will eventually hit some long runs when he's settled into a starting role on this O. To just expect him to come out and burn guys for 50+ yarders his first season is insane. Especially in an offense that nobody liked the play calling and the passing offense we mediocre at best.
20 other D1 programs thought Kalepo was worthy of a scholarship... including USC and Oregon... discounting him is nuts at this point in his career.
You've seen a freshman RB avg 4.3 YPC and get 10 TD's in his first go and you're not high on him?
Could be the dumbest take I've ever read.
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Neither Ahmed or Newton is nearly as good as those guys. UW has never had guys that talented except for Napoleon and Dillon. Guys like Sheehee, Polk, Sankey, and Gaskin, are at the next level. And Ahmed is not even at that level. His closest analog is a guy you may not have heard of, Beno Bryant.backthepack said:I like Dick Newton. He’s just not good enough. Have you seen Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, Clyde Edwards Helaire, De’Andre Swift, Najee Harris etc.?
You think bringing up 5 stars makes you a "high standards" hardcore evaluator, it doesn't. It's just a distraction from being able to assess actual UW personnel.
Newton and Ahmed each have serious limitations that make their games short of elite.
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Looking like the front runner for Doog hero next year when he's the worst linemanbackthepack said:
Fuck Wattenberg for holding on his touchdown run. His burst is special and he’s a big dude toojhfstyle24 said:
Cam DavisBroadcastingDawg said: -
I prefer toRoadDawg55 said:BTP it’s purely TBS faggotry why you think he’s not good enough.
I bet he gets a little faster and works on the nuances. The balance and power are there. He’s great in short yardage.
Actually your take on Chris Polk is much, much dumber. They threw him to the wolves early in the 2008 season, as a true fresh with a bad shoulder which he promptly injured. That year counts for shit.BroadcastingDawg said:
Fuck off moron. Your opinion isn't worth any more than mine.AtomicDawg said:
Then you can’t be helped. You obviously started watching football very recently. Don’t let logic get in the way of any assumptions and doog the fuck out.BroadcastingDawg said:
I really don't care... I see that Polk avg'd 1.7 yards on 20 carries his first go around. I see that Newton avg'd 4.3 and had 10 TD's... I think they are the same kind of back, bruisers who make their money carrying guys and breaking arm tackles. You really think people were high on Polk after '08? Difference is Newton has actually shown you something!AtomicDawg said:Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad
I think Newton will eventually hit some long runs when he's settled into a starting role on this O. To just expect him to come out and burn guys for 50+ yarders his first season is insane. Especially in an offense that nobody liked the play calling and the passing offense we mediocre at best.
20 other D1 programs thought Kalepo was worthy of a scholarship... including USC and Oregon... discounting him is nuts at this point in his career.
You've seen a freshman RB avg 4.3 YPC and get 10 TD's in his first go and you're not high on him?
Could be the dumbest take I've ever read.
Watch him in game one of 2009 against a defense full of 4 and 5* freaks and try to tell me you've seen the same from Newton as a second year player.
Newton is a good player. Some of us like to scout and project based on what we see, not just stats. You're doing it too. You just don't agree and are higher on him than me and some others. No big deal. -
This isn't a response to you, more a response to the bigger picture.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Neither Ahmed or Newton is nearly as good as those guys. UW has never had guys that talented except for Napoleon and Dillon. Guys like Sheehee, Polk, Sankey, and Gaskin, are at the next level. And Ahmed is not even at that level. His closest analog is a guy you may not have heard of, Beno Bryant.backthepack said:I like Dick Newton. He’s just not good enough. Have you seen Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, Clyde Edwards Helaire, De’Andre Swift, Najee Harris etc.?
You think bringing up 5 stars makes you a "high standards" hardcore evaluator, it doesn't. It's just a distraction from being able to assess actual UW personnel.
Newton and Ahmed each have serious limitations that make their games short of elite.
You know who else weren't elite... people talking shit about Freshman Richard Newton? Myles Gaskin, Chris Polk and Bishop Sankey.
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You don't know that Newton won't be as good in his second year. You have no idea.chuck said:
I prefer toRoadDawg55 said:BTP it’s purely TBS faggotry why you think he’s not good enough.
I bet he gets a little faster and works on the nuances. The balance and power are there. He’s great in short yardage.
Actually your take on Chris Polk is much, much dumber. They threw him to the wolves early in the 2008 season, as a true fresh with a bad shoulder which he promptly injured. That year counts for shit.BroadcastingDawg said:
Fuck off moron. Your opinion isn't worth any more than mine.AtomicDawg said:
Then you can’t be helped. You obviously started watching football very recently. Don’t let logic get in the way of any assumptions and doog the fuck out.BroadcastingDawg said:
I really don't care... I see that Polk avg'd 1.7 yards on 20 carries his first go around. I see that Newton avg'd 4.3 and had 10 TD's... I think they are the same kind of back, bruisers who make their money carrying guys and breaking arm tackles. You really think people were high on Polk after '08? Difference is Newton has actually shown you something!AtomicDawg said:Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad
I think Newton will eventually hit some long runs when he's settled into a starting role on this O. To just expect him to come out and burn guys for 50+ yarders his first season is insane. Especially in an offense that nobody liked the play calling and the passing offense we mediocre at best.
20 other D1 programs thought Kalepo was worthy of a scholarship... including USC and Oregon... discounting him is nuts at this point in his career.
You've seen a freshman RB avg 4.3 YPC and get 10 TD's in his first go and you're not high on him?
Could be the dumbest take I've ever read.
Watch him in game one of 2009 against a defense full of 4 and 5* freaks and try to tell me you've seen the same from Newton as a second year player.
Newton is a good player. Some of us like to scout and project based on what we see, not just stats. You're doing it too. You just don't agree and are higher on him than me and some others. No big deal.
I don't care. Polk avg'd 1.7 yards per carry. 1.7... you want to say Newton doesn't have the potential after only seeing him as the 2nd running back? He scored 10 times and avg'd 4.3 yards per carry, a number reduced because he was utilized in a number of 3rd and short or goal line situations. He was never the feature back.
What's hilarious is you're evaluating Polk with hindsight... nobody on this board, or in Husky nation figured that Polk was going to evolve into what he did after '08... and you have no idea what Newton has the potential to evolve into either.
Thinking that what you saw his freshman year is all he has is ludicrous. Just a stupid, debby downer, typical HardcoreHusky, woe is me, take.
I'm sorry, but how anyone could look at Richard Newton and go "meh" after the effort he's put in this year is just nuts. -
I smell a Later Guys approaching.
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If you are comparing apples to apples newton was injured and played In zero games his freshmen season.BroadcastingDawg said:
I really don't care... I see that Polk avg'd 1.7 yards on 20 carries his first go around. I see that Newton avg'd 4.3 and had 10 TD's... I think they are the same kind of back, bruisers who make their money carrying guys and breaking arm tackles. You really think people were high on Polk after '08? Difference is Newton has actually shown you something!AtomicDawg said:Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad
I think Newton will eventually hit some long runs when he's settled into a starting role on this O. To just expect him to come out and burn guys for 50+ yarders his first season is insane. Especially in an offense that nobody liked the play calling and the passing offense we mediocre at best. Hitting on long runs is seldom just because the running back is fast, it takes catching the D in a bad set, effective blocking at multiple levels... opposing D's didn't respect our ability to pass it down the field all year and stacked the box to stop the run.
20 other D1 programs thought Kalepo was worthy of a scholarship... including USC and Oregon... discounting him is nuts at this point in his career.
Polk played A game and a half and was injured and never played again as a true freshmen.
In what would have been Polk’s redshirt freshmen year he ran for over 1000 yards at 4.9 Ypc with a much shittier supporting cast and was his own blocker many times vs a much tougher schedule. Also was running 4.45 40 at the time and made multiple freshmen all American teams. Just a different type of back. Again I like newton. Just not sold on him being an all conference or all American level contributor. Or an every down back for that matter.
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I'm not offended. I believe you're wrong.AtomicDawg said:
If you are comparing apples to apples newton was injured and played In zero games his freshmen season.BroadcastingDawg said:
I really don't care... I see that Polk avg'd 1.7 yards on 20 carries his first go around. I see that Newton avg'd 4.3 and had 10 TD's... I think they are the same kind of back, bruisers who make their money carrying guys and breaking arm tackles. You really think people were high on Polk after '08? Difference is Newton has actually shown you something!AtomicDawg said:Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad
I think Newton will eventually hit some long runs when he's settled into a starting role on this O. To just expect him to come out and burn guys for 50+ yarders his first season is insane. Especially in an offense that nobody liked the play calling and the passing offense we mediocre at best. Hitting on long runs is seldom just because the running back is fast, it takes catching the D in a bad set, effective blocking at multiple levels... opposing D's didn't respect our ability to pass it down the field all year and stacked the box to stop the run.
20 other D1 programs thought Kalepo was worthy of a scholarship... including USC and Oregon... discounting him is nuts at this point in his career.
Polk played A game and a half and was injured and never played again as a true freshmen.
In what would have been Polk’s redshirt freshmen year he ran for over 1000 yards at 4.9 Ypc with a much shittier supporting cast and was his own blocker many times vs a much tougher schedule. Also was running 4.45 40 at the time and made multiple freshmen all American teams. Just a different type of back. Again I like newton. Just not sold on him being an all conference or all American level contributor. Or an every down back for that matter.
Feel Free to continue to be offended though.
I don't think Newton had a better supporting cast in his first full year a running back. Maybe Newton had a better OL? Maybe? This year's UW OL was only mediocre in my opinion. Certainly wasn't as good as everyone hoped it would be... it didn't perform near expectations.
He had a JR Jake Locker at QB who was a better runner than Eason and put up almost the same exact passing numbers.
Can you really look at the Husky WR core and say Baccellia, Fuller, McClatcher were better than Jermaine Kearse, Devin Aguilar and James Johnson? About all you can say is Hunter Bryant was a better TE than Middleton. Next year, as far as pass catchers are concerned, yeah I believe it's a night and day difference.
And again, had Newton been the feature back, who's to say he wouldn't have broken a couple if he's getting 20-25 carries a game? Newton also has a much better nose for the end zone than Polk.
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It’s just an opinion on Kalepo. Great kid, not a very good football player. He had early offers and Oregon going after him made us rush an offer to him. Not to mention, he was a key recruiter in his class. Again, he’s a great kid.BroadcastingDawg said:
I really don't care... I see that Polk avg'd 1.7 yards on 20 carries his first go around. I see that Newton avg'd 4.3 and had 10 TD's... I think they are the same kind of back, bruisers who make their money carrying guys and breaking arm tackles. You really think people were high on Polk after '08? Difference is Newton has actually shown you something!AtomicDawg said:Whoosh on kalepo. But in reality he has a long way to go. Not very coordinated or quick in the feet.
Were you like 4 years old when Polk was a freshman? You do know he was injured vs BYU and didn’t play again that year and if he wasn’t as good as he was that would have been a redshirt year he would have filed for after his junior year.
If you think Polk and newton are the same type of back that is just wrong. Doesn’t mean newton is bad
I think Newton will eventually hit some long runs when he's settled into a starting role on this O. To just expect him to come out and burn guys for 50+ yarders his first season is insane. Especially in an offense that nobody liked the play calling and the passing offense we mediocre at best. Hitting on long runs is seldom just because the running back is fast, it takes catching the D in a bad set, effective blocking at multiple levels... opposing D's didn't respect our ability to pass it down the field all year and stacked the box to stop the run.
20 other D1 programs thought Kalepo was worthy of a scholarship... including USC and Oregon... discounting him is nuts at this point in his career.
We could wait until he’s a junior to fork any opinion or we can use this board to give opinions, predictions, etc. It’s kind of the point of message boards. You seem more like a doogman type who needs “Go Dawgs” and nothing else. -
Newton needs to learn to not always initiate contact in the 2nd level. He seeks it when sometimes it isn’t necessary. It’s not a horrible problem to have. We talk about being tough and physical, well that’s exactly what Newton is.
He pushes guys backwards, but still goes down when he could side step then and gain 10-20 more yards. He needs to turn his 7 yard runs into 15-20 yard gains. He does that and there is no bitching over his ypc. -
Spot on analysis. It’s hard to sustain a drive without breaking longer runs from time to time.RoadDawg55 said:Newton needs to learn to not always initiate contact in the 2nd level. He seeks it when sometimes it isn’t necessary. It’s not a horrible problem to have. We talk about being tough and physical, well that’s exactly what Newton is.
He pushes guys backwards, but still goes down when he could side step then and gain 10-20 more yards. He needs to turn his 7 yard runs into 15-20 yard gains. He does that and there is no bitching over his ypc.
