Johnny Wilson, 2020 5* WR, Calabasas, CA (Offered 7/14/17)
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Say no more.bananasnblondes said:
Reminds me a lot of Eklund's posts during the Vanderdoes class.theknowledge said:I'm leaning toward agreeing with Coker. Not knowing anything about anything it sure seems that Mario is the type that will want some signing day sizzle. I'm sure he has some fish on the hook for that big splash and subsequent interview on ESPN. Me thinks it will be equal to or greater than what they have lost in the last few days. It's kinda what big boy recruiting looks like. Just a guess on my part.
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Whom ever they do or do not get it looks like none of the pac 12 teams will finish with a top 10 recruiting class. Keeps the narrative alive that it’s below all the other P5 conferences.
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As will having no Pac12 teams finish in the top 10 of the football rankings.Theironshiek said:Whom ever they do or do not get it looks like none of the pac 12 teams will finish with a top 10 recruiting class. Keeps the narrative alive that it’s below all the other P5 conferences.
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DAT was 2011, Vanderdoes was 2013.Beno4Life said:
Say no more.bananasnblondes said:
Reminds me a lot of Eklund's posts during the Vanderdoes class.theknowledge said:I'm leaning toward agreeing with Coker. Not knowing anything about anything it sure seems that Mario is the type that will want some signing day sizzle. I'm sure he has some fish on the hook for that big splash and subsequent interview on ESPN. Me thinks it will be equal to or greater than what they have lost in the last few days. It's kinda what big boy recruiting looks like. Just a guess on my part.
Was the Vanderdoes class also the De'Anthony Thomas class?
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Ballz was right...
Biggins when asked if this kid would get the 5*:
Definitely not lol, his game is not trending the right way and unless he moves to TE, I'm not sure how productive he'll be in college. He's a huge target but lacks physicality and the hands to make difficult catches through contact. I saw two games live and he dropped about 5-6 balls combined and two TDs. -
Pretty sure Johnnie lost his 5th star. 5* is why Ballz was shouted down when he said that Johnnie sucks and JrDWHA, more or less.DoogWhisperer said:Ballz was right...
Biggins when asked if this kid would get the 5*:
Definitely not lol, his game is not trending the right way and unless he moves to TE, I'm not sure how productive he'll be in college. He's a huge target but lacks physicality and the hands to make difficult catches through contact. I saw two games live and he dropped about 5-6 balls combined and two TDs.
@Ballz come back! -
Johnny Wilson sucks and Ballz and I were right.
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If Ringo ends up in Eugene I guarentee you Mama Ringo made some $$$.
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Ducks will loose Figgins and Latu as well
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I couldn't care less what his rating is, but I love how he's now rated based on his projected college production, Before Biggins was spouting about how ratings are based on NFL potential. Guess they go with whatever supports the narrativeDoogWhisperer said:Ballz was right...
Biggins when asked if this kid would get the 5*:
Definitely not lol, his game is not trending the right way and unless he moves to TE, I'm not sure how productive he'll be in college. He's a huge target but lacks physicality and the hands to make difficult catches through contact. I saw two games live and he dropped about 5-6 balls combined and two TDs. -
He didn't say he's rating him based on college productivity. He just said he doesn't know how productive he'll be in college.Sources said:
I couldn't care less what his rating is, but I love how he's now rated based on his projected college production, Before Biggins was spouting about how ratings are based on NFL potential. Guess they go with whatever supports the narrativeDoogWhisperer said:Ballz was right...
Biggins when asked if this kid would get the 5*:
Definitely not lol, his game is not trending the right way and unless he moves to TE, I'm not sure how productive he'll be in college. He's a huge target but lacks physicality and the hands to make difficult catches through contact. I saw two games live and he dropped about 5-6 balls combined and two TDs.
He can still have an opinion on college productivity despite 247FS's rating criteria. -
I believe that he narrowed down his top 5 to only programs that are paying big.BeerThirty said:If Ringo ends up in Eugene I guarentee you Mama Ringo made some $$$.
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I heard his sr year he was a big target that played small.Emoterman said:
Pretty sure Johnnie lost his 5th star. 5* is why Ballz was shouted down when he said that Johnnie sucks and JrDWHA, more or less.DoogWhisperer said:Ballz was right...
Biggins when asked if this kid would get the 5*:
Definitely not lol, his game is not trending the right way and unless he moves to TE, I'm not sure how productive he'll be in college. He's a huge target but lacks physicality and the hands to make difficult catches through contact. I saw two games live and he dropped about 5-6 balls combined and two TDs.
@Ballz come back! -
@ballz come back @NeGgaPlEaSe
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Rumor has it saying he has 2 kids might be an understatement...insinceredawg said:They just lost Avantae Williams, their second highest rated commit after Sewell. Dawgs back on top for #1 class in the conference.
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Johnny Appleseeddtd said:
Rumor has it saying he has 2 kids might be an understatement...insinceredawg said:They just lost Avantae Williams, their second highest rated commit after Sewell. Dawgs back on top for #1 class in the conference.
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Looks like he’s officially asu bound. That’s a lot of WR they are getting. They realize they gotta get other players as well right?
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Where are you seeing this?Theironshiek said:Looks like he’s officially asu bound. That’s a lot of WR they are getting. They realize they gotta get other players as well right?
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Just posted a clip on his IG. Yellow helmet and adidas on jersey. He gone.
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I love the Neuheisel strategy!Theironshiek said:Looks like he’s officially asu bound. That’s a lot of WR they are getting. They realize they gotta get other players as well right?
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They took quite a few last year too.Fear_Boner said:
I love the Neuheisel strategy!Theironshiek said:Looks like he’s officially asu bound. That’s a lot of WR they are getting. They realize they gotta get other players as well right?
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Herm is the Catholic Sark.
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Unless Wilson was willing to play TE then I’m not sure of his appeal. His 95 rating seems super high for a guy who’s 6’6 and couldn’t dominate at the high school level.
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To be fair (or maybe it's not) when paired up with huard he was a weapon on the 7vs7 circuit.Theironshiek said:Unless Wilson was willing to play TE then I’m not sure of his appeal. His 95 rating seems super high for a guy who’s 6’6 and couldn’t dominate at the high school level.
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Ballz said:
Wiltfong just crystal balled him to Oregon along with another UW legacy in Carson Bruener who doesn't have an offer yet but is probably the next ILB in line to get one. How do you feel about "mega recruiting weekends" for Spring games now motherfuckers? Why are we giving them or anybody else any advantage over us in recruiting? Why are we not dominating Pac-12 recruiting year round? Why are we giving them all the early momentum and hoping to catch up later? Some of these elite recruits don't give a fuck about doing their research or substance. Some just want their dicks sucked non-stop. Petersen and company need to get sucking. They're not getting paid all that money to lose any recruiting battles to fucking Oregon!
@BallzFS bumpHillsboroDuck said:
Wiltfong sucks.StrongArmCobra said:Wiltfong just crystal balled him to Oregon along with another UW legacy in Carson Bruener who doesn't have an offer yet but is probably the next ILB in line to get one. How do you feel about "mega recruiting weekends" for Spring games now motherfuckers? Why are we giving them or anybody else an advantage over us in recruiting? Why are we not dominating Pac-12 recruiting year round? Why are we giving them all the early momentum and hoping to catch up later?
Bruener is ours if we want him.
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Bump. Probably right about dem bags but wrong school.BeerThirty said:If Ringo ends up in Eugene I guarentee you Mama Ringo made some $$$.
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!!!!!!LaMichael_Corleone said:
If the board is about opinions, don’t then say “the coaches agree” that Wilson won’t ever amount to shit and that “they’ve moved on and found doods that are better” unless you’ve talked to someone on staff. I’m all about being able to predict if a player is going to suck, despite how pointless it is, but when you speak on the coaches behalf without information from them it waters down when someone on here does have internal information.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Banks was #1 on the coaches board the day before we dropped him. Things change.dnc said:
!!!!!!LaMichael_Corleone said:
If the board is about opinions, don’t then say “the coaches agree” that Wilson won’t ever amount to shit and that “they’ve moved on and found doods that are better” unless you’ve talked to someone on staff. I’m all about being able to predict if a player is going to suck, despite how pointless it is, but when you speak on the coaches behalf without information from them it waters down when someone on here does have internal information.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
Banks was not, Smalls was. That's why we dropped Banks once we got Smalls.RoadDawg55 said:
Banks was #1 on the coaches board the day before we dropped him. Things change.dnc said:
!!!!!!LaMichael_Corleone said:
If the board is about opinions, don’t then say “the coaches agree” that Wilson won’t ever amount to shit and that “they’ve moved on and found doods that are better” unless you’ve talked to someone on staff. I’m all about being able to predict if a player is going to suck, despite how pointless it is, but when you speak on the coaches behalf without information from them it waters down when someone on here does have internal information.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good. -
That’s a Sarcastic reference to the meltdown of some in another site that had an absolute meltdown when we dropped banks.sonics1993 said:
Banks was not, Smalls was. That's why we dropped Banks once we got Smalls.RoadDawg55 said:
Banks was #1 on the coaches board the day before we dropped him. Things change.dnc said:
!!!!!!LaMichael_Corleone said:
If the board is about opinions, don’t then say “the coaches agree” that Wilson won’t ever amount to shit and that “they’ve moved on and found doods that are better” unless you’ve talked to someone on staff. I’m all about being able to predict if a player is going to suck, despite how pointless it is, but when you speak on the coaches behalf without information from them it waters down when someone on here does have internal information.RoadDawg55 said:
I agree with you, but the point of message boards is opinions. Crunching numbers and comparing players to the NFL is FS. Some poster had some bulls hit about players running faster than 4.55 and being 215 plus. Mike Williams from Clemson was 218 and ran a 4.54. It’s selective bullshit. Clemson would have never beat Alabama in 2016 without him.AtomicDawg said:
This is college. Who the hell cares if it doesn’t translate to the nfl. He could be the next hakim butler. Plenty of big wrs do well in college. They are rare so it’s not a big sample size. Get Wilson and let him beast on small defensive backs. I hate this bored.RealRhino said:
Fast enough for what?backthepack said:
Lol. S/O to the Oprea Singer Mr.4.3!RealRhino said:Okay, all this bullshit caused me to go watch his film. Think we can split the difference here. I like him but I don’t love him. Certainly can help a team, but for us, might rather have Roman Wilson than Johnny Wilson. We’ve got the big guys that aren’t real sudden. I’d prefer the speed.
Because a 6”6 guys running a 4.59 as a junior is definitely not fast enough.
Difference is that Baccellia is maybe 5-10, 170, while Roman Wilson is probably going to play at exactly the size Dante Pettis was, 6-1, 185. With the same kind of quick breaks as Dante. You don't want another Dante Pettis?
Back to my original question. Fast enough for what? Because we're not measuring total overall athleticism. I would agree with you that a 220-lb. athlete running 4.59 might be more impressive than a 170-lb. guy running 4.45. But at the end of the day the 4.59 guy is still not outrunning any CBs. And honestly doesn't really leverage much threat of the go route. So he's a jump ball guy. I'd generally rather have the guy that gets open.
Last 10 years I checked guys 6-2+, 215+, 4.55 or slower. Basically three guys with any success (NFL): Allen Robinson (great), Devin Funchess (decent), Kelvin Benjamin (fine for one year, then bad).
I actually agree with Ballz and think Wilson won’t ever do shit. The coaches agree and I don’t think they actually want him. They have moved on and found dudes that are better. He was the 3rd best WR on his high school team. Granted, the two dudes above him are/were 4 star recruits, but he’s not going to get drastically better. We’ll find out in a few years. We can crunch numbers and compare him to past players but that really has nothing to do with anything. He’s not that good.
