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For anyone who has ever praised England's healthcare system

Bendintheriver
Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,006 Standard Supporter
England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896

    England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

    See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




    The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

    The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

    That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

    Tired of campaigning against Canadian healthcare? This is a nice variation.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896



    England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

    See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




    The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

    The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

    That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

    The leftists don't know Jack.

    Most know that single payer isn’t nationalized healthcare. Atl doesn’t.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,704 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2019
    My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896
    Sledog said:

    My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.

    Regardless, Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their system to ours.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.

    Regardless, Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their system to ours.
    If they like it, can they keep it?

    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/survey-reveals-canadian-health-care-concerns
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My Canadian friend has come to the US and paid cash for two surgeries on the last few years. Wait was too long. He was tired of the pain.

    Regardless, Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their system to ours.
    If they like it, can they keep it?

    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/survey-reveals-canadian-health-care-concerns
    Aging population has concerns about health care?

    Stop the presses!

    (They still don't want our system.)
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896
    edited December 2019
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
    Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
    Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.
    Medicare doesn't cover everything. Do you know how it works? Must really piss you off that he hasn't died yet.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,006 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

    See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




    The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

    The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

    That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

    Tired of campaigning against Canadian healthcare? This is a nice variation.
    I have multiple friends who have come down to the US from Canada for life saving procedures. You still want to tout Canadian healthcare?

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896

    HHusky said:

    England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

    See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




    The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

    The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

    That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

    Tired of campaigning against Canadian healthcare? This is a nice variation.
    I have multiple friends who have come down to the US from Canada for life saving procedures. You still want to tout Canadian healthcare?

    Don't you always have "multiple examples" of some rare event?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
    Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.
    Medicare doesn't cover everything. Do you know how it works? Must really piss you off that he hasn't died yet.
    He was a public employee during the generous benefit, less generous pay days. He's not deficit spending.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,006 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
    You have to love when a rat ignores one single payer program disasters.

    Now we are down to Canada and I happen to know people who have come down here for life saving surgery.

    Good call HH. How many more need to die before you FEEL for those that believed in single payer healthcare and never got it?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
    You have to love when a rat ignores one single payer program disasters.

    Now we are down to Canada and I happen to know people who have come down here for life saving surgery.

    Good call HH. How many more need to die before you FEEL for those that believed in single payer healthcare and never got it?
    Why talk to me? I'm sure if you explain to the Canadians that they're stupid, you'll find them very receptive.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,006 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

    See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




    The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

    The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

    That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

    Tired of campaigning against Canadian healthcare? This is a nice variation.
    I have multiple friends who have come down to the US from Canada for life saving procedures. You still want to tout Canadian healthcare?

    Don't you always have "multiple examples" of some rare event?
    Absolutely. Life is incredible right HH? In your world no one ever dies due to single payer healthcare. It goes against your mental utopia right?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    England's healthcare is a disaster. 4.41 million people on waiting lists for routine operations.

    See our future if we let rats have control and go with their single payer model.




    The picture of four-year-old Jack sleeping on a hospital floor despite having suspected pneumonia summed up in one image more than a million words or spreadsheets could ever do.

    The hospital quickly admitted it was all true – little Jack had been left on a floor for four and a half hours and the Chief Executive had apologised personally to Jack’s mum. TRUE STORY.

    That picture told how we have a 40,000 shortage of nurses, 4.41 million people stuck on waiting lists for routine operations, and hundreds of crumbling, unsafe hospitals. Our NHS staff are brilliant but they’re overstretched and under-resourced.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/alison-phillips-how-vile-spread-21067696

    Tired of campaigning against Canadian healthcare? This is a nice variation.
    I have multiple friends who have come down to the US from Canada for life saving procedures. You still want to tout Canadian healthcare?

    Don't you always have "multiple examples" of some rare event?
    Absolutely. Life is incredible right HH? In your world no one ever dies due to single payer healthcare. It goes against your mental utopia right?
    People die due to healthcare under all healthcare systems. You really should get out more.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896
    edited December 2019
    You feel free to ask Canadians whether they want to fix problems with their healthcare or adopt the American system. There is no groundswell to abandon their healthcare--except at Canadian RW websites. Every system in the world has issues, including but not limited to people living too fucking long.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,006 Standard Supporter
    Yes, those who are alive love the "free healthcare". Those who died from it not so much.

    Brilliant counselor, brilliant.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896

    Yes, those who are alive love the "free healthcare". Those who died from it not so much.

    Brilliant counselor, brilliant.

    We need to get that healthcare system where there are no challenges and no one ever dies, STAT!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,704 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
    Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.
    Medicare doesn't cover everything. Do you know how it works? Must really piss you off that he hasn't died yet.
    He was a public employee during the generous benefit, less generous pay days. He's not deficit spending.
    So your dad is a leach living off the populace!

    That was your whole rain for law school too stop this outrageous thought of pensions! Why haven't you had your father stripped of all benefits Saul?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
    Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.
    Medicare doesn't cover everything. Do you know how it works? Must really piss you off that he hasn't died yet.
    He was a public employee during the generous benefit, less generous pay days. He's not deficit spending.
    So your dad is a leach living off the populace!

    That was your whole rain for law school too stop this outrageous thought of pensions! Why haven't you had your father stripped of all benefits Saul?
    Trumptrash. In the flesh.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,006 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Yes, those who are alive love the "free healthcare". Those who died from it not so much.

    Brilliant counselor, brilliant.

    We need to get that healthcare system where there are no challenges and no one ever dies, STAT!
    One thing we know
    HHusky said:

    Yes, those who are alive love the "free healthcare". Those who died from it not so much.

    Brilliant counselor, brilliant.

    We need to get that healthcare system where there are no challenges and no one ever dies, STAT!
    So you are comparing single payer healthcare where those who need life saving care are in a waiting line to the care they receive in the USA that at least attempts to save their lives with medical attention?

    You need to separate your politics from life saving humanity.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,896
    edited December 2019
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    It's not Obamacare it's not single payer it's not national health because all those suck

    Its wonder care and its free!

    Single payer works reasonably well. The whole premise of this post was that someone (unidentified) had been praising British healthcare, which is single provider, not single payer as Atl maintained.

    No one thinks any system is perfect and I've been totally in favor of putting the aged on ice floes at the point their care becomes too expensive, but apparently my old school sensibilities aren't mainstream.
    Figures, your dad has lived too long an you're tired of him spending what you thought was going to be your inheritance.
    Do you not know how this works? His care is barely costing him anything. The inheritance is modest, but growing.
    Medicare doesn't cover everything. Do you know how it works? Must really piss you off that he hasn't died yet.
    He was a public employee during the generous benefit, less generous pay days. He's not deficit spending.
    So your dad is a leach living off the populace!
    Yes. You have much in common. Not merely your votes for Daddy.