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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,431

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Being terrible at the foreign policy thingy isn't impeachable.

    Daddy's a fucking mobster. He's shitty at it, as Representative Jordan like to point out. But that's not a great defense.

    Awesome

    Anyone want to discuss the matter at hand? H's daddy issues are acting up again
    The matter at hand being the EU having sent $12 billion in aid to our $3 billion. But Daddy was just concerned about Europe contributing to the effort.
    That's what I voted for. What did Obama send?

    Its like Trump ran on Europe paying their fair share. Remember when Trump took shots at NATO? I do. And now Europe is paying more

    Another win
    The EU had sent four time as much as we had when he leveraged the aid to get the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into his political opponent. At this point, not even you believe these pathetic GOP defenses.
    There is nothing to defend. Its the policy I voted for and so did you because Obama did less than Trump when the Crimea was invaded


    I didn't vote "aid for dirt". I didn't even know it was on the ballot.
    And the white flag

    Any adults want to take a stab at this or is it too tough?
    12 billion > 3 billion

    You're just going to have to deal with it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,762 Founders Club
    Well golly gee JEEPERS!

    https://foxnews.com/politics/fiona-hill-once-opposed-sending-lethal-aid-to-ukraine-in-fight-with-russia

    A former top Russia expert at the National Security Council who testified Thursday before the House Intelligence Committee as part of its ongoing impeachment inquiry into President Trump once argued against supplying weapons to Ukraine following the Russian annexation of Crimea.

    Fiona Hill, who resigned from her post at the NSC in August, argued in a 2015 opinion piece published in The Washington Post that sending such lethal military aid to Ukraine could provoke Russia further. If Washington were to send weapons to Kiev, the piece argued, “the Ukrainians won’t be the only ones caught in an escalating military conflict with Russia.”

    Hill, who at the time was the director of the Center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution, said in the piece that while the logic of sending arms to Ukraine may seem a “straightforward” way to counter Russian President Vladimir Putin’s aggression, the move could actually cause Moscow to ramp up its incursion into its neighbor and erode the Western alliance.

    “It is hard to find effective alternatives to the current sanctions policy, but if we plunge headlong into sending weapons, we may lose our allies, and we may never have the opportunity to get things right,” Hill wrote, along with Clifford Gaddy, a senior fellow at Brookings.

    Hill, however, has since changed her stance on providing lethal aid to Ukraine. She acknowledged in Thursday's hearing that she was not initially in favor of sending Javelin anti-tank missiles, but eventually learned that a "lot of work" was put into the planning and there was a system for "sustainability long-term of the Ukrainian military."

    "So, I changed my mind," she testified.

    She likewise told lawmakers in her deposition in October that when she was appointed to her position at the NSC by Trump, she saw that the administration “had a proper plan for the long-term sustainability of the Ukrainian military.”


    Well a woman has the right to change her mind. I agree with her previous position as does Trump

    Its a policy difference not an impeachable offense
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,675 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Being terrible at the foreign policy thingy isn't impeachable.

    Daddy's a fucking mobster. He's shitty at it, as Representative Jordan like to point out. But that's not a great defense.

    Awesome

    Anyone want to discuss the matter at hand? H's daddy issues are acting up again
    The matter at hand being the EU having sent $12 billion in aid to our $3 billion. But Daddy was just concerned about Europe contributing to the effort.
    That's what I voted for. What did Obama send?

    Its like Trump ran on Europe paying their fair share. Remember when Trump took shots at NATO? I do. And now Europe is paying more

    Another win
    The EU had sent four time as much as we had when he leveraged the aid to get the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into his political opponent. At this point, not even you believe these pathetic GOP defenses.
    There is nothing to defend. Its the policy I voted for and so did you because Obama did less than Trump when the Crimea was invaded


    I didn't vote "aid for dirt". I didn't even know it was on the ballot.
    And the white flag

    Any adults want to take a stab at this or is it too tough?
    12 billion > 3 billion

    You're just going to have to deal with it.
    Ukraine is in Europe. It's their neighbor. They should provide the most finding as its in their best interest.

    How much in weapons?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,762 Founders Club
    I guess I have to say it

    Yet another witness EXONERATES Trump
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,431
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Being terrible at the foreign policy thingy isn't impeachable.

    Daddy's a fucking mobster. He's shitty at it, as Representative Jordan like to point out. But that's not a great defense.

    Awesome

    Anyone want to discuss the matter at hand? H's daddy issues are acting up again
    The matter at hand being the EU having sent $12 billion in aid to our $3 billion. But Daddy was just concerned about Europe contributing to the effort.
    That's what I voted for. What did Obama send?

    Its like Trump ran on Europe paying their fair share. Remember when Trump took shots at NATO? I do. And now Europe is paying more

    Another win
    The EU had sent four time as much as we had when he leveraged the aid to get the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into his political opponent. At this point, not even you believe these pathetic GOP defenses.
    There is nothing to defend. Its the policy I voted for and so did you because Obama did less than Trump when the Crimea was invaded


    I didn't vote "aid for dirt". I didn't even know it was on the ballot.
    And the white flag

    Any adults want to take a stab at this or is it too tough?
    12 billion > 3 billion

    You're just going to have to deal with it.
    Ukraine is in Europe. It's their neighbor. They should provide the most finding as its in their best interest.

    How much in weapons?
    They should and they already had. Daddy's excuses just crumble under examination. I know you don't care that he tried to bribe a foreign official to further his personal interests. It's okay just to admit it.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,675 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2019
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Being terrible at the foreign policy thingy isn't impeachable.

    Daddy's a fucking mobster. He's shitty at it, as Representative Jordan like to point out. But that's not a great defense.

    Awesome

    Anyone want to discuss the matter at hand? H's daddy issues are acting up again
    The matter at hand being the EU having sent $12 billion in aid to our $3 billion. But Daddy was just concerned about Europe contributing to the effort.
    That's what I voted for. What did Obama send?

    Its like Trump ran on Europe paying their fair share. Remember when Trump took shots at NATO? I do. And now Europe is paying more

    Another win
    The EU had sent four time as much as we had when he leveraged the aid to get the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into his political opponent. At this point, not even you believe these pathetic GOP defenses.
    There is nothing to defend. Its the policy I voted for and so did you because Obama did less than Trump when the Crimea was invaded


    I didn't vote "aid for dirt". I didn't even know it was on the ballot.
    And the white flag

    Any adults want to take a stab at this or is it too tough?
    12 billion > 3 billion

    You're just going to have to deal with it.
    Ukraine is in Europe. It's their neighbor. They should provide the most finding as its in their best interest.

    How much in weapons?
    They should and they already had. Daddy's excuses just crumble under examination. I know you don't care that he tried to bribe a foreign official to further his personal interests. It's okay just to admit it.
    Investigating corruption is always OK. Joe shouldn't brag about his crimes.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,015
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Being terrible at the foreign policy thingy isn't impeachable.

    Daddy's a fucking mobster. He's shitty at it, as Representative Jordan like to point out. But that's not a great defense.

    Awesome

    Anyone want to discuss the matter at hand? H's daddy issues are acting up again
    The matter at hand being the EU having sent $12 billion in aid to our $3 billion. But Daddy was just concerned about Europe contributing to the effort.
    That's what I voted for. What did Obama send?

    Its like Trump ran on Europe paying their fair share. Remember when Trump took shots at NATO? I do. And now Europe is paying more

    Another win
    The EU had sent four time as much as we had when he leveraged the aid to get the Ukrainians to announce an investigation into his political opponent. At this point, not even you believe these pathetic GOP defenses.
    There is nothing to defend. Its the policy I voted for and so did you because Obama did less than Trump when the Crimea was invaded


    I didn't vote "aid for dirt". I didn't even know it was on the ballot.
    And the white flag

    Any adults want to take a stab at this or is it too tough?
    12 billion > 3 billion

    You're just going to have to deal with it.
    Ukraine is in Europe. It's their neighbor. They should provide the most finding as its in their best interest.

    How much in weapons?
    They should and they already had. Daddy's excuses just crumble under examination. I know you don't care that he tried to bribe a foreign official to further his personal interests. It's okay just to admit it.
    HondoFSBro #4 is right...its all on video:
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,015
    Your next Defense Secretary of the Ukraine:


  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Being terrible at the foreign policy thingy isn't impeachable.

    Daddy's a fucking mobster. He's shitty at it, as Representative Jordan like to point out. But that's not a great defense.

    Awesome

    Anyone want to discuss the matter at hand? H's daddy issues are acting up again
    The matter at hand being the EU having sent $12 billion in aid to our $3 billion. But Daddy was just concerned about Europe contributing to the effort.
    That's what I voted for. What did Obama send?

    Its like Trump ran on Europe paying their fair share. Remember when Trump took shots at NATO? I do. And now Europe is paying more

    Another win
    I do too, and I recall O'Keefed wetting himself when Trump did so how he was "trashing" NATO and or allies.