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Carson Bruener, 4* 2020 LB, Redmond (HS), WA (COMMITTED)

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  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    WR is one of the easiest
    No it’s not...

    There are a massive number of high 3 and 4 star WRs that completely flame out in college.

    Likewise there are a ton of WRs that produce great numbers in college that never live up to their draft position in the NFL.

    Just look at the WRs just drafted in the first round between 2017-2014... half of them havent lived up to their draft position or are on their way out... and these are the super high end first round draft pick guys... let alone the bunches of guys that are regularly drafted in rounds 3-6...

    Corey Davis (5), John Ross (9), Corey Coleman (15), Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22), Laquon Treadwell (23), Kevin White (7), Breshad Perriman (26), Sammy Watkins (4), Kelvin Benjamin (28)

    There have been a ton of studies and papers done the the low success rate and variability of WRs in the NFL... especially those drafted in earlier rounds...




  • Beno4LifeBeno4Life Member Posts: 533

    I'd thought the same about Jackson Sirmon too.
    Way more violent than Sirmon’s HS tape.

    What’s surprised me about Sirmon’s play after a year in the program compared to his HS tape is how bad his instincts have been this year. He never looked athletic in his HS tape, but I thought he was more of a BBK instinctual ’backer.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Eifler sucks. He’s not even good at Illinois but posters know he plays a little bit there and lament him as a great loss.

    Still better than Manu. Bolton and Weaver are the real losses tho. Have those two and we have a much better defense this year and win a couple more games.
    that was the point, i am not setting the bar high
  • NorwegianHuskyNorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    Emoterman said:


    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    Ulo was a 2-star and I always liked him.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827
    Houhusky said:

    No it’s not...

    There are a massive number of high 3 and 4 star WRs that completely flame out in college.

    Likewise there are a ton of WRs that produce great numbers in college that never live up to their draft position in the NFL.

    Just look at the WRs just drafted in the first round between 2017-2014... half of them havent lived up to their draft position or are on their way out... and these are the super high end first round draft pick guys... let alone the bunches of guys that are regularly drafted in rounds 3-6...

    Corey Davis (5), John Ross (9), Corey Coleman (15), Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22), Laquon Treadwell (23), Kevin White (7), Breshad Perriman (26), Sammy Watkins (4), Kelvin Benjamin (28)

    There have been a ton of studies and papers done the the low success rate and variability of WRs in the NFL... especially those drafted in earlier rounds...




    This is interesting but pretty worthless. That data set is just way too large to draw any real conclusions. The NFL is a completely different game that it was 1990, let alone 1980.
  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Houhusky said:

    No it’s not...

    There are a massive number of high 3 and 4 star WRs that completely flame out in college.

    Likewise there are a ton of WRs that produce great numbers in college that never live up to their draft position in the NFL.

    Just look at the WRs just drafted in the first round between 2017-2014... half of them havent lived up to their draft position or are on their way out... and these are the super high end first round draft pick guys... let alone the bunches of guys that are regularly drafted in rounds 3-6...

    Corey Davis (5), John Ross (9), Corey Coleman (15), Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22), Laquon Treadwell (23), Kevin White (7), Breshad Perriman (26), Sammy Watkins (4), Kelvin Benjamin (28)

    There have been a ton of studies and papers done the the low success rate and variability of WRs in the NFL... especially those drafted in earlier rounds...




    WR looks like one of the stronger correlations between round drafted and whether or not they live up to their pick. It's not likely anyone lives up to their pick, but as WR you have a much better chance the earlier you are drafted, which suggests they can evaluate the position fairly well.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Ulo was a 2-star and I always liked him.
    I had no idea who Ulo even was until he played special teams and forced a fumble. I was wondering where he was all season and questioning why he wasn’t getting a shot considering how bad our ILB had been. I had no doubts he was better than both Sirmon and Manu who are both horrible. At least Sirmon has improved to being somewhat serviceable and not the huge liability he was most the season.
  • Neighbor2972Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,328
    dnc said:

    This is interesting but pretty worthless. That data set is just way too large to draw any real conclusions. The NFL is a completely different game that it was 1990, let alone 1980.
    Approximate Value also isn't a very good stat. Though I understand why they use it because its hard to measure 'busts'.

    By AV Germain Ifedi was a very good draft pick for the Seahawks, because he has started nearly every game of his career, even if he's been barely above replacement level.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    Approximate Value also isn't a very good stat. Though I understand why they use it because its hard to measure 'busts'.

    By AV Germain Ifedi was a very good draft pick for the Seahawks, because he has started nearly every game of his career, even if he's been barely above replacement level.
    That too.

    And fuck Ifedi.
  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,028 Swaye's Wigwam

    I loved Welly as a prospect. Thought he would be good. The only thing that pissed me off were the idiots that would cherry pick BBK plays and pretend he wasn’t good and wanted Wellington to play over him.

    I still thought he would be a good starter this year. He sucks.


  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,444
    edited December 2019
    It's been 18 minutes since this picture has been posted and no one has mentioned the obvious





















    Sweatpants dong outline
  • dannarcdannarc Member Posts: 2,634
    Like we say, if Gregory can coach as good as he can decorate, 2023 will be special.


    lol






    Extra points for the sweats. This kid is going to be my fav

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