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Carson Bruener, 4* 2020 LB, Redmond (HS), WA (COMMITTED)

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,673 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2019
    He looks pretty good and props for the highlight selection. I like how much you're able to see him working through traffic and dealing with blockers. He's good at picking the correct ball carrier path and brushing his blocker aside so he can meet the ball moving forward.

    If you watch some film with Mason Foster at UW you really see that skill on display. He was amazing at manipulating blockers with head fakes, jab steps etc to get them off balance, then using his hands to control or move them while keeping his eye on the target.

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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    BBK 2.0?
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    HuskyClaws said:



    He has an amazing ability to square up the ball carrier on almost every tackle it seems.
    Oh shit
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  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.
    Same. I think Bruener looks decent and his bloodlines work in his favor, but I don’t really care about him and won’t until he does something for UW.
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  • Emoterman
    Emoterman Member Posts: 3,333
    edited November 2019
    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    The diamond in the ruff beef Wellington and manu are paying big dividends
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    edited November 2019
    I do like diamonds in the rough better than 3 and low 4 stars that for some reason nobody really wants or makes a priority.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    The diamond in the ruff beef Wellington and manu are paying big dividends
    Wellington was a 4 star
    Was he really??? Wow. That 4 star paying big time dividends
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    The diamond in the ruff beef Wellington and manu are paying big dividends
    Wellington was a 4 star
    Was he really??? Wow. That 4 star paying big time dividends
    Why do you think all the TBS'ers were so excited to replace BBK with him?
    Looked good in spots last year, I don’t understand what happened
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    The diamond in the ruff beef Wellington and manu are paying big dividends
    Wellington was a 4 star
    Was he really??? Wow. That 4 star paying big time dividends
    Why do you think all the TBS'ers were so excited to replace BBK with him?
    Jimmy Lake said it too. I’m concerned about stuff like that, especially when you factor in the WR and ILB, and Cam Williams bullshit that happened this year.

    Yes, the coaches are around these guys more than anyone but they can still play favorites and not really know their personnel. It definitely happened this year.
    They can also say shit they don’t really believe to the media. Hopefully this was the latter.
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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    the film looks good, that’s about all to get from it.

    IMO WR and LB are the hardest to actually project how individual players will do at each jump; HS—CFB—NFL

    It’s worrying the UW staff seems particularly bad at it though.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,673 Swaye's Wigwam
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    The diamond in the ruff beef Wellington and manu are paying big dividends
    Wellington was a 4 star
    Was he really??? Wow. That 4 star paying big time dividends
    Why do you think all the TBS'ers were so excited to replace BBK with him?
    Jimmy Lake said it too. I’m concerned about stuff like that, especially when you factor in the WR and ILB, and Cam Williams bullshit that happened this year.

    Yes, the coaches are around these guys more than anyone but they can still play favorites and not really know their personnel. It definitely happened this year.
    Why does anyone give a fuck what the coaches say they think when it comes to individuals? Theres a motive behind it every time, and no reason to assume any of it is true.

    I like and agree with the rest of your point. They made some obvious personnel mistakes this year.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    The diamond in the ruff beef Wellington and manu are paying big dividends
    Wellington was a 4 star
    Was he really??? Wow. That 4 star paying big time dividends
    Why do you think all the TBS'ers were so excited to replace BBK with him?
    Jimmy Lake said it too. I’m concerned about stuff like that, especially when you factor in the WR and ILB, and Cam Williams bullshit that happened this year.

    Yes, the coaches are around these guys more than anyone but they can still play favorites and not really know their personnel. It definitely happened this year.
    I thought eifler was being a little bitch, but I think he was rightfully concerned that Gregory was playing favorites and that is why he sold the couch. He would have been an upgrade for us
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  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    Houhusky said:

    the film looks good, that’s about all to get from it.

    IMO WR and LB are the hardest to actually project how individual players will do at each jump; HS—CFB—NFL

    It’s worrying the UW staff seems particularly bad at it though.

    WR is one of the easiest
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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    FKA_Mousecop said:

    Houhusky said:

    the film looks good, that’s about all to get from it.

    IMO WR and LB are the hardest to actually project how individual players will do at each jump; HS—CFB—NFL

    It’s worrying the UW staff seems particularly bad at it though.

    WR is one of the easiest
    No it’s not...

    There are a massive number of high 3 and 4 star WRs that completely flame out in college.

    Likewise there are a ton of WRs that produce great numbers in college that never live up to their draft position in the NFL.

    Just look at the WRs just drafted in the first round between 2017-2014... half of them havent lived up to their draft position or are on their way out... and these are the super high end first round draft pick guys... let alone the bunches of guys that are regularly drafted in rounds 3-6...

    Corey Davis (5), John Ross (9), Corey Coleman (15), Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22), Laquon Treadwell (23), Kevin White (7), Breshad Perriman (26), Sammy Watkins (4), Kelvin Benjamin (28)

    There have been a ton of studies and papers done the the low success rate and variability of WRs in the NFL... especially those drafted in earlier rounds...




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  • Beno4Life
    Beno4Life Member Posts: 533
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    Neighbor2972 said:

    We could use him this weekend. Probably needs to gain some weight, but (old white guy voice) he just knows how to play football

    I'd thought the same about Jackson Sirmon too.
    Way more violent than Sirmon’s HS tape.

    What’s surprised me about Sirmon’s play after a year in the program compared to his HS tape is how bad his instincts have been this year. He never looked athletic in his HS tape, but I thought he was more of a BBK instinctual ’backer.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    RoadDawg55 said:

    FirePete said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    dnc said:

    FirePete said:

    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    The diamond in the ruff beef Wellington and manu are paying big dividends
    Wellington was a 4 star
    Was he really??? Wow. That 4 star paying big time dividends
    Why do you think all the TBS'ers were so excited to replace BBK with him?
    Jimmy Lake said it too. I’m concerned about stuff like that, especially when you factor in the WR and ILB, and Cam Williams bullshit that happened this year.

    Yes, the coaches are around these guys more than anyone but they can still play favorites and not really know their personnel. It definitely happened this year.
    I thought eifler was being a little bitch, but I think he was rightfully concerned that Gregory was playing favorites and that is why he sold the couch. He would have been an upgrade for us
    Eifler sucks. He’s not even good at Illinois but posters know he plays a little bit there and lament him as a great loss.

    Still better than Manu. Bolton and Weaver are the real losses tho. Have those two and we have a much better defense this year and win a couple more games.
    that was the point, i am not setting the bar high
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  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    Ulo was a 2-star and I always liked him.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Houhusky said:

    FKA_Mousecop said:

    Houhusky said:

    the film looks good, that’s about all to get from it.

    IMO WR and LB are the hardest to actually project how individual players will do at each jump; HS—CFB—NFL

    It’s worrying the UW staff seems particularly bad at it though.

    WR is one of the easiest
    No it’s not...

    There are a massive number of high 3 and 4 star WRs that completely flame out in college.

    Likewise there are a ton of WRs that produce great numbers in college that never live up to their draft position in the NFL.

    Just look at the WRs just drafted in the first round between 2017-2014... half of them havent lived up to their draft position or are on their way out... and these are the super high end first round draft pick guys... let alone the bunches of guys that are regularly drafted in rounds 3-6...

    Corey Davis (5), John Ross (9), Corey Coleman (15), Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22), Laquon Treadwell (23), Kevin White (7), Breshad Perriman (26), Sammy Watkins (4), Kelvin Benjamin (28)

    There have been a ton of studies and papers done the the low success rate and variability of WRs in the NFL... especially those drafted in earlier rounds...




    This is interesting but pretty worthless. That data set is just way too large to draw any real conclusions. The NFL is a completely different game that it was 1990, let alone 1980.
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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Houhusky said:

    FKA_Mousecop said:

    Houhusky said:

    the film looks good, that’s about all to get from it.

    IMO WR and LB are the hardest to actually project how individual players will do at each jump; HS—CFB—NFL

    It’s worrying the UW staff seems particularly bad at it though.

    WR is one of the easiest
    No it’s not...

    There are a massive number of high 3 and 4 star WRs that completely flame out in college.

    Likewise there are a ton of WRs that produce great numbers in college that never live up to their draft position in the NFL.

    Just look at the WRs just drafted in the first round between 2017-2014... half of them havent lived up to their draft position or are on their way out... and these are the super high end first round draft pick guys... let alone the bunches of guys that are regularly drafted in rounds 3-6...

    Corey Davis (5), John Ross (9), Corey Coleman (15), Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22), Laquon Treadwell (23), Kevin White (7), Breshad Perriman (26), Sammy Watkins (4), Kelvin Benjamin (28)

    There have been a ton of studies and papers done the the low success rate and variability of WRs in the NFL... especially those drafted in earlier rounds...




    WR looks like one of the stronger correlations between round drafted and whether or not they live up to their pick. It's not likely anyone lives up to their pick, but as WR you have a much better chance the earlier you are drafted, which suggests they can evaluate the position fairly well.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    NorwegianHusky said:

    Emoterman said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    I 'member the days when people weren't excited about Bruener.

    I'm still not. I'll believe it when I see it with these ILBs. I'm only excited about Calvert and to some extent Ulo.

    I bet you care about stars and don't appreciate diamonds in the rough.
    Ulo was a 2-star and I always liked him.
    I had no idea who Ulo even was until he played special teams and forced a fumble. I was wondering where he was all season and questioning why he wasn’t getting a shot considering how bad our ILB had been. I had no doubts he was better than both Sirmon and Manu who are both horrible. At least Sirmon has improved to being somewhat serviceable and not the huge liability he was most the season.
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  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    dnc said:

    Houhusky said:

    FKA_Mousecop said:

    Houhusky said:

    the film looks good, that’s about all to get from it.

    IMO WR and LB are the hardest to actually project how individual players will do at each jump; HS—CFB—NFL

    It’s worrying the UW staff seems particularly bad at it though.

    WR is one of the easiest
    No it’s not...

    There are a massive number of high 3 and 4 star WRs that completely flame out in college.

    Likewise there are a ton of WRs that produce great numbers in college that never live up to their draft position in the NFL.

    Just look at the WRs just drafted in the first round between 2017-2014... half of them havent lived up to their draft position or are on their way out... and these are the super high end first round draft pick guys... let alone the bunches of guys that are regularly drafted in rounds 3-6...

    Corey Davis (5), John Ross (9), Corey Coleman (15), Will Fuller (21), Josh Doctson (22), Laquon Treadwell (23), Kevin White (7), Breshad Perriman (26), Sammy Watkins (4), Kelvin Benjamin (28)

    There have been a ton of studies and papers done the the low success rate and variability of WRs in the NFL... especially those drafted in earlier rounds...




    This is interesting but pretty worthless. That data set is just way too large to draw any real conclusions. The NFL is a completely different game that it was 1990, let alone 1980.
    Approximate Value also isn't a very good stat. Though I understand why they use it because its hard to measure 'busts'.

    By AV Germain Ifedi was a very good draft pick for the Seahawks, because he has started nearly every game of his career, even if he's been barely above replacement level.
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