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It would have worked but the USA imposed sanctions!!!!!Sledog said:I'm on hold with Venezuela and Cuba. Trying get get their full plans for their success and high standard of living. Vietnam, N. Korea and China didn't answer the phone.
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Not really.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse? -
JFC. What are we arguing about again?SFGbob said:
But in this instance the government isn't just controlling the purse strings.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse?
If you have a ice cream business, and I have the power to tell you what kind of ice cream you can sell, how much you can charge for that ice cream and who you have to sell or not sell that ice cream to, is that business still really yours? -
If tranny’s are the backbone of our nation or not.YellowSnow said:
JFC. What are we arguing about again?SFGbob said:
But in this instance the government isn't just controlling the purse strings.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse?
If you have a ice cream business, and I have the power to tell you what kind of ice cream you can sell, how much you can charge for that ice cream and who you have to sell or not sell that ice cream to, is that business still really yours? -
Southerndawg said:
Not really.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse?
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The Constitutional Republic and my choice of career paths have been good to me, can’t complain overall. But it is most definitely better during times of low taxation and lessened government interference.YellowSnow said:
Hows your republican democracy treating your pocket book fren?Southerndawg said:
We’re not a democracy. They devolve Into mob rule. Guaranteed failure. Viva La Republica!YellowSnow said:
And it we want to go for full irony @Southerndawg it could be argued that an enlightened despot could in theory be a better guarantor of our life, liberty and property than democracy.Southerndawg said:
It’s state control of the largest segment of our economy (by employment). Nothing democratic about that. It’s statist, straight up.YellowSnow said:
It's more social democracy than socialism, but still, wealth transfer is wealth transfer.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
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News flash. Those days are long gone.YellowSnow said:Southerndawg said:
Not really.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse? -
You can still get tyranny of the majority in a Constitutional Republic. It just takes longer. The trend line, however, is the losers in our society wanting ever more from the winners. The big question is what can we do to lessen the number of losers.Southerndawg said:
The Constitutional Republic and my choice of career paths have been good to me, can’t complain overall. But it is most definitely better during times of low taxation and lessened government interference.YellowSnow said:
Hows your republican democracy treating your pocket book fren?Southerndawg said:
We’re not a democracy. They devolve Into mob rule. Guaranteed failure. Viva La Republica!YellowSnow said:
And it we want to go for full irony @Southerndawg it could be argued that an enlightened despot could in theory be a better guarantor of our life, liberty and property than democracy.Southerndawg said:
It’s state control of the largest segment of our economy (by employment). Nothing democratic about that. It’s statist, straight up.YellowSnow said:
It's more social democracy than socialism, but still, wealth transfer is wealth transfer.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
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Huh? The MI complex is long gone?Southerndawg said:
News flash. Those days are long gone.YellowSnow said:Southerndawg said:
Not really.YellowSnow said:
There are plenty of for profit companies in the economy where the government controls the purse strings.Southerndawg said:
Who’s picking up the tab? Rhetorical question. The government does not pick up tabs. They confiscate revenue via taxes, borrow some more, and then spend it as they see fit.YellowSnow said:
It's just so god damned messy with the words these day. All the olds that love Trump love their Medicare but hate "socialism". So if the government is just picking up the tab, but doesn't control or own the means of production- i.e., docs and hospitals - is it really REAL socialism?SFGbob said:
Got it, it's Socialized medicine but it's not Socialism. It's healthcare that's paid for by the state but according to Hondo the stupid Kunt, it's not Socialism. And Bernie wants to "break up" ICE and the Border Patrol, but again, according to Hondo the lying Kunt, it's a lie to say Bernie wants to "dismantle" ICE and the Border Patrol.2001400ex said:
It's actually not socialism. Look up what socialism actually is. Look up the economies that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had.SFGbob said:
Medicare for all is Socialism. It is socialized medicine. Quote the person who called it Communism.2001400ex said:
People call Medicare for all socialism and communism here on a daily basis. You are doing it in sheet thread right now. And you don't even see it. Sad!MikeDamone said:
Which no one did. Idiot.2001400ex said:
Calling a representative republic a democracy is closer than calling Medicare for all a communism. HTHMikeDamone said:Or pandering for votes? Since we don’t have a Democracy and no one person or group of people would be the “backbone” of it if we did, I’m going with pandering for votes. Maybe even using them as props.
And sledog says hello.
Hondo has his own words and meanings for words.
And do you really mean to parse the control over means of production when the purse strings ultimately dictate such and in this case there will be only one purse? -
I don't love Medicare
