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My poont wasn't his inexperience but rather it's that he doesn't have to help him when he struggled.RoadDawg55 said:
I think the experience aspect of being a play caller can be important, but not always. LSU brought in some wunderkid from the Saints and he revamped their offense.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
That’s not a glaring exception because UW did the same thing against both Oregon and Utah. It goes back to having time to adjust, whether it’s the week prior to the game or halftime. Once the offense works through the script and the defense adjusts, UW wilts.creepycoug said:
One glaring exception to this was the Penn State game. Washington was getting its ass handed to it and it could have been worse score-wise going into half time. But the Huskies came out of the first half and made great adjustments and marched down the field and scored. Clear that good half-tim adjustments were made in that game.RoadDawg55 said:After the initial script, the play calling is all based on reading the defense. Might be the reason why we play so we’ll early and clam up late.
Yes, you have to take what the defense gives you. At some point tho, you have to impose your will and be really good at certain things and be able to count on them when times get tough and the defense tightens up.
Someone mentioned it in a different thread but you have an OC in his 2nd year with very little coaching experience overall and the only guy with a good amount of experience to help him is the head coach.
I don’t blame or hate Hamdan for being a shitty OC. I blame Petersen for putting him in the position without the right support structure.
The NFL has coaches like McVay that had players on the team older than they are. Coaches of all ages can be good.
Most everyone was pleased with getting Bush back to be OC. He got a lot of credit in 2016 for getting the WR’s to improve so much, although a lot of it was simply getting Ross back and finally using him. He definitely was consistent in 2016 when he was far from consistent before that.
We did well with Tedford as a consultant. Tedford has some horrible offenses late in his time at Cal tho.
It’s hard to really know. Like most of you, I think a big problem is that Pete really runs the offense and the OC just carries out what he wants to do. -
It’s Pete’s offense. Which is exactly why he needs to hire someone with the personality that can tell him to fuck off and the resume to justify it.RoadDawg55 said:
I think the experience aspect of being a play caller can be important, but not always. LSU brought in some wunderkid from the Saints and he revamped their offense.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
That’s not a glaring exception because UW did the same thing against both Oregon and Utah. It goes back to having time to adjust, whether it’s the week prior to the game or halftime. Once the offense works through the script and the defense adjusts, UW wilts.creepycoug said:
One glaring exception to this was the Penn State game. Washington was getting its ass handed to it and it could have been worse score-wise going into half time. But the Huskies came out of the first half and made great adjustments and marched down the field and scored. Clear that good half-tim adjustments were made in that game.RoadDawg55 said:After the initial script, the play calling is all based on reading the defense. Might be the reason why we play so we’ll early and clam up late.
Yes, you have to take what the defense gives you. At some point tho, you have to impose your will and be really good at certain things and be able to count on them when times get tough and the defense tightens up.
Someone mentioned it in a different thread but you have an OC in his 2nd year with very little coaching experience overall and the only guy with a good amount of experience to help him is the head coach.
I don’t blame or hate Hamdan for being a shitty OC. I blame Petersen for putting him in the position without the right support structure.
The NFL has coaches like McVay that had players on the team older than they are. Coaches of all ages can be good.
Most everyone was pleased with getting Bush back to be OC. He got a lot of credit in 2016 for getting the WR’s to improve so much, although a lot of it was simply getting Ross back and finally using him. He definitely was consistent in 2016 when he was far from consistent before that.
We did well with Tedford as a consultant. Tedford has some horrible offenses late in his time at Cal tho.
It’s hard to really know. Like most of you, I think a big problem is that Pete really runs the offense and the OC just carries out what he wants to do.
Idk if Tedford is even the answer but he seems like the closest thing to at least likely put his own mark on the offense rather than be Pete’s underling yes-man.
Either way I don’t think bush gets fired and if he did I have no idea who any legitimate candidates would be. -
100%CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
My poont wasn't his inexperience but rather it's that he doesn't have to help him when he struggled.RoadDawg55 said:
I think the experience aspect of being a play caller can be important, but not always. LSU brought in some wunderkid from the Saints and he revamped their offense.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
That’s not a glaring exception because UW did the same thing against both Oregon and Utah. It goes back to having time to adjust, whether it’s the week prior to the game or halftime. Once the offense works through the script and the defense adjusts, UW wilts.creepycoug said:
One glaring exception to this was the Penn State game. Washington was getting its ass handed to it and it could have been worse score-wise going into half time. But the Huskies came out of the first half and made great adjustments and marched down the field and scored. Clear that good half-tim adjustments were made in that game.RoadDawg55 said:After the initial script, the play calling is all based on reading the defense. Might be the reason why we play so we’ll early and clam up late.
Yes, you have to take what the defense gives you. At some point tho, you have to impose your will and be really good at certain things and be able to count on them when times get tough and the defense tightens up.
Someone mentioned it in a different thread but you have an OC in his 2nd year with very little coaching experience overall and the only guy with a good amount of experience to help him is the head coach.
I don’t blame or hate Hamdan for being a shitty OC. I blame Petersen for putting him in the position without the right support structure.
The NFL has coaches like McVay that had players on the team older than they are. Coaches of all ages can be good.
Most everyone was pleased with getting Bush back to be OC. He got a lot of credit in 2016 for getting the WR’s to improve so much, although a lot of it was simply getting Ross back and finally using him. He definitely was consistent in 2016 when he was far from consistent before that.
We did well with Tedford as a consultant. Tedford has some horrible offenses late in his time at Cal tho.
It’s hard to really know. Like most of you, I think a big problem is that Pete really runs the offense and the OC just carries out what he wants to do. -
God damnit you guys don't get it. When we are saying fire Pete it doesn't mean he will get fired. It means he should be fucken fired. Pete showed his true colors a long time ago. He chose to stick with Browning he chose to alienate certain players. He chose to stick to his shitty offense. When we got the to the cfp with a roster full of Sark guys. Pete thought to him self he did everything him alone.
His okg shit is trash. We need kids that want to win that is it. If you have your own process to weed out the troubled kids great but don't focus on the process focus on the winning for recruitment. Fucken shit.
People say Pete does 90% of things right just 10% off. Those 10% are the championship 10% we fucken need that 10% and he doesn't have it.
We will not get better with Pete that ship is gone. Every year it doesn't matter if we play a good team or a crappy team we will lose games that we should not have lost and it's all to coaching.
P.S. Fire Pete -
He didn’t alienate anyone with Browning. There was nobody that was better. That’s the truth. Nobody is happy about it, but Haener was our back up QB last year. Carta Samuels wasn’t good enough either.JustWinNow said:God damnit you guys don't get it. When we are saying fire Pete it doesn't mean he will get fired. It means he should be fucken fired. Pete showed his true colors a long time ago. He chose to stick with Browning he chose to alienate certain players. He chose to stick to his shitty offense. When we got the to the cfp with a roster full of Sark guys. Pete thought to him self he did everything him alone.
His okg shit is trash. We need kids that want to win that is it. If you have your own process to weed out the troubled kids great but don't focus on the process focus on the winning for recruitment. Fucken shit.
People say Pete does 90% of things right just 10% off. Those 10% are the championship 10% we fucken need that 10% and he doesn't have it.
We will not get better with Pete that ship is gone. Every year it doesn't matter if we play a good team or a crappy team we will lose games that we should not have lost and it's all to coaching.
P.S. Fire Pete
We didn’t have a roster full of Sark guys when we made the playoff. We had a few of them sprinkled in with Pete guys.
We suck right now, but this is pressing. We’ll know soon enough if this is was a down year or the way it is. You obviously think it will continue. Myself and others still believe we will be good in the near future.
Teams don’t go undefeated often. They lose games they should win. Even the best teams like Ohio State and Oklahoma have a bad game and lose to someone they shouldn’t. It’s happening too often now and Pete needs to be a difference maker in a positive way. Not costing us games like he has this year.
We were never making the playoff every year. Get there every few years, sprinkle in some New Year Bowl wins, and we’re happy. We aren’t happy with this shitty season. -
I'm saying the opposite. Penn State was an exception for having made the adjustments at halftime, because the second half was a different game. You could make the same argument for Ohio State, but many people would say that Ohio State lost focus and went to sleep. I'm a bit in that camp because I thought they were markedly better.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
That’s not a glaring exception because UW did the same thing against both Oregon and Utah. It goes back to having time to adjust, whether it’s the week prior to the game or halftime. Once the offense works through the script and the defense adjusts, UW wilts.creepycoug said:
One glaring exception to this was the Penn State game. Washington was getting its ass handed to it and it could have been worse score-wise going into half time. But the Huskies came out of the first half and made great adjustments and marched down the field and scored. Clear that good half-tim adjustments were made in that game.RoadDawg55 said:After the initial script, the play calling is all based on reading the defense. Might be the reason why we play so we’ll early and clam up late.
Yes, you have to take what the defense gives you. At some point tho, you have to impose your will and be really good at certain things and be able to count on them when times get tough and the defense tightens up.
Someone mentioned it in a different thread but you have an OC in his 2nd year with very little coaching experience overall and the only guy with a good amount of experience to help him is the head coach.
I don’t blame or hate Hamdan for being a shitty OC. I blame Petersen for putting him in the position without the right support structure. -
Ut oh... The shit heads over at UWDP are not happy and would like a word...
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This dumb shit is in the same vein as all the nonsense we heard over the summer about Pete's alleged elitism and alienation of black players. What a load of shit. You don't need to psychoanalyze his culture or reinvent this stupid "choir boy" narrative to figure out why we're losing.JustWinNow said:God damnit you guys don't get it. When we are saying fire Pete it doesn't mean he will get fired. It means he should be fucken fired. Pete showed his true colors a long time ago. He chose to stick with Browning he chose to alienate certain players. He chose to stick to his shitty offense. When we got the to the cfp with a roster full of Sark guys. Pete thought to him self he did everything him alone.
His okg shit is trash. We need kids that want to win that is it. If you have your own process to weed out the troubled kids great but don't focus on the process focus on the winning for recruitment. Fucken shit.
People say Pete does 90% of things right just 10% off. Those 10% are the championship 10% we fucken need that 10% and he doesn't have it.
We will not get better with Pete that ship is gone. Every year it doesn't matter if we play a good team or a crappy team we will lose games that we should not have lost and it's all to coaching.
P.S. Fire Pete
The results are plain as day and not hard to evaluate - we fucking suck at in-game adjustments. Other coaches are scheming circles around our guys. In three of our losses this year we've come out firing on all cylinders ready to cave the other teams' assholes in. Guys were fired up, playing with intensity, and doing coke off of the water girl's ass between plays. Then the second half came and the other team figured us out while we held our dicks and lost all momentum. If Pete can figure that out then we'll be good again. If he can't then we'll suffer through some more watered down 8 win seasons and maybe he'll get fired. Or he won't.
Either way it's going to be interesting. -
Oklahoma isn't one of the best teams. They play in a garbage conference that's just as bad as the ACC. Basically got blown out by K-State. Awful defense. Lose in the first round of the playoffs every time. It's looking like they won't have that chance this year.RoadDawg55 said:
He didn’t alienate anyone with Browning. There was nobody that was better. That’s the truth. Nobody is happy about it, but Haener was our back up QB last year. Carta Samuels wasn’t good enough either.JustWinNow said:God damnit you guys don't get it. When we are saying fire Pete it doesn't mean he will get fired. It means he should be fucken fired. Pete showed his true colors a long time ago. He chose to stick with Browning he chose to alienate certain players. He chose to stick to his shitty offense. When we got the to the cfp with a roster full of Sark guys. Pete thought to him self he did everything him alone.
His okg shit is trash. We need kids that want to win that is it. If you have your own process to weed out the troubled kids great but don't focus on the process focus on the winning for recruitment. Fucken shit.
People say Pete does 90% of things right just 10% off. Those 10% are the championship 10% we fucken need that 10% and he doesn't have it.
We will not get better with Pete that ship is gone. Every year it doesn't matter if we play a good team or a crappy team we will lose games that we should not have lost and it's all to coaching.
P.S. Fire Pete
We didn’t have a roster full of Sark guys when we made the playoff. We had a few of them sprinkled in with Pete guys.
We suck right now, but this is pressing. We’ll know soon enough if this is was a down year or the way it is. You obviously think it will continue. Myself and others still believe we will be good in the near future.
Teams don’t go undefeated often. They lose games they should win. Even the best teams like Ohio State and Oklahoma have a bad game and lose to someone they shouldn’t. It’s happening too often now and Pete needs to be a difference maker in a positive way. Not costing us games like he has this year.
We were never making the playoff every year. Get there every few years, sprinkle in some New Year Bowl wins, and we’re happy. We aren’t happy with this shitty season. -
I'm going to give you a piece of advice, and I sincerely hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you should stop posting.JustWinNow said:God damnit you guys don't get it. When we are saying fire Pete it doesn't mean he will get fired. It means he should be fucken fired. Pete showed his true colors a long time ago. He chose to stick with Browning he chose to alienate certain players. He chose to stick to his shitty offense. When we got the to the cfp with a roster full of Sark guys. Pete thought to him self he did everything him alone.
His okg shit is trash. We need kids that want to win that is it. If you have your own process to weed out the troubled kids great but don't focus on the process focus on the winning for recruitment. Fucken shit.
People say Pete does 90% of things right just 10% off. Those 10% are the championship 10% we fucken need that 10% and he doesn't have it.
We will not get better with Pete that ship is gone. Every year it doesn't matter if we play a good team or a crappy team we will lose games that we should not have lost and it's all to coaching.
P.S. Fire Pete
