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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,261
    What does that stat have to do with 3rd and 1?
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,332
    HuskyJW said:

    What does that stat have to do with 3rd and 1?

    1 < 3.





    F dnc and his 53 seconds.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    edited October 2019
    Wouldn't this stat be a summary of total running plays over a season? Is there a stat specifically for 3rd and short rushing efficiency? Seems like there should be a focus on our 3rd down success rate which as I recall is terrible.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,332

    The 2000 line that was maligned here won at least two games with 9 minute plus 4th quarter drives on the ground

    They also trailed early in most games and won late

    The complete opposite of this year

    My analytics show that it is because the O line sucks until it doesn't

    Beat Utah and we can talk. If we lose it won't be for any other reason than we got our ass beat up front

    True. It seems like Pete's lines are generally okay at run blocking (when we need to pick up ten yards) but the pass protection can make Eason look like Brownsox. And, lets not talk about short yardage situations.

    Anal-ytics work IF used properly. In this case, I am sure we face a different defensive front at 3-1 than on other longer yardage situations.

    I hate Olin Kruetz with a passion but he is what we need right now. With Pete's second best (physically) mentality I have no idea whether his lines will ever be championship caliber.






















    Fuck off. I just answered my own question.

  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Ok, so #firehuff @RaceBannon ? I don’t think they are terrible, not great for sure but not the worst line we have seen in the last 5 years
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,332
    FirePete said:

    Ok, so #firehuff @RaceBannon ? I don’t think they are terrible, not great for sure but not the worst line we have seen in the last 5 years

    5 < 6. HTH











































































































    Please to be comparing Pete's lines to some one other than Pete's lines.




  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    EwaDawg said:

    The 2000 line that was maligned here won at least two games with 9 minute plus 4th quarter drives on the ground

    They also trailed early in most games and won late

    The complete opposite of this year

    My analytics show that it is because the O line sucks until it doesn't

    Beat Utah and we can talk. If we lose it won't be for any other reason than we got our ass beat up front

    True. It seems like Pete's lines are generally okay at run blocking (when we need to pick up ten yards) but the pass protection can make Eason look like Brownsox. And, lets not talk about short yardage situations.

    Anal-ytics work IF used properly. In this case, I am sure we face a different defensive front at 3-1 than on other longer yardage situations.

    I hate Olin Kruetz with a passion but he is what we need right now. With Pete's second best (physically) mentality I have no idea whether his lines will ever be championship caliber.






















    Fuck off. I just answered my own question.


    We need a few Olin kreutz types in the program at this point.

    Problem is that:

    - Peterman would never recruit him
    - if he did, Olin would be out of the program faster than mosiah niu Liu for just raising his voice or intensely staring at someone
    - Peterman doesn't tolerate jaw breaking fights and all that stuff, Peterman lacks the ruthlessness of a don James ... Of course there's the upside to that ...
    - hell, Peterman punishes his own players for showing competitive spirit and juice and not backing down by getting them to do push-ups in order to form them into the same robotic self as him ...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    FirePete said:

    Ok, so #firehuff @RaceBannon ? I don’t think they are terrible, not great for sure but not the worst line we have seen in the last 5 years

    So all of a sudden mediocre is fine with you

    Might want to change your loser er user name. No need to fire Pete. His O line isn't terrible

    He's never had a good one. You're the second to damn him with that faint praise

  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,332
    edited October 2019

    (Holey FUCK the quote function is Fucked UP. And, no, its not operator malfunction).


    "We need a few Olin kreutz types in the program at this point.

    Problem is that:





    - Peterman would never recruit him
    - if he did, Olin would be out of the program faster than mosiah niu Liu for just raising his voice or intensely staring at someone
    - Peterman doesn't tolerate jaw breaking fights and all that stuff, Peterman lacks the ruthlessness of a don James ... Of course there's the upside to that ...
    - hell, Peterman punishes his own players for showing competitive spirit and juice and not backing down by getting them to do push-ups in order to form them into the same robotic self as him ..."


    Or sucker punching (and ending a teammates career) some one.

    Okay, I am done. For today.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,126
    edited October 2019
    whuggy said:

    Wouldn't this stat be a summary of total running plays over a season? Is there a stat specifically for 3rd and short rushing efficiency? Seems like there should be a focus on our 3rd down success rate which as I recall is terrible.

    Our 3rd/4th down short yardage rate would be good. Newton was dominating in that role. I can also think of two TD’s Ahmed got on 4th down. One vs Oregon from the 11 and a long one vs Cal.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club

    There is one play Race is basing things off. One play that was one of the worst calls I’ve ever witnessed.

    The stat DNC is using proves why Ahmed is running good. He’s not a back that can succeed without great blocking.

    Bullshit

    What one play?

    I posted the cal scoring recap for fucks sake

    Sounds like you don't have an argument
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club




    Long drives ending in a field goal

    Inability to convert in the red zone led to the Cal loss that led to the season ending suddenly

    Everyone is focused on Oregon but the O line cost us the season early on

    Ahmed had 120 yards plus. Skinny was under duress all night. When it came time to get it done we didn't

    Its a simple game made complex by people that get paid a lot of money to do so

    It’s almost like we didn’t false start on the one and Baccallia didn’t fuck up an easy TD.
    Excuses are for losers
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    FirePete said:

    Ok, so #firehuff @RaceBannon ? I don’t think they are terrible, not great for sure but not the worst line we have seen in the last 5 years

    So all of a sudden mediocre is fine with you

    Might want to change your loser er user name. No need to fire Pete. His O line isn't terrible

    He's never had a good one. You're the second to damn him with that faint praise

    On the list of what is wrong with the team. OL is 3 on my list. ILB,, WR and then OL. But on relative basis to the ILB, our OL is all America level. Still want pete fired.
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    Ok, so #firehuff @RaceBannon ? I don’t think they are terrible, not great for sure but not the worst line we have seen in the last 5 years

    So all of a sudden mediocre is fine with you

    Might want to change your loser er user name. No need to fire Pete. His O line isn't terrible

    He's never had a good one. You're the second to damn him with that faint praise

    On the list of what is wrong with the team. OL is 3 on my list. ILB,, WR and then OL. But on relative basis to the ILB, our OL is all America level. Still want pete fired.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,126

    There is one play Race is basing things off. One play that was one of the worst calls I’ve ever witnessed.

    The stat DNC is using proves why Ahmed is running good. He’s not a back that can succeed without great blocking.

    Bullshit

    What one play?

    I posted the cal scoring recap for fucks sake

    Sounds like you don't have an argument
    No you haven’t. It’s one play vs Oregon. I went over this before. You’re arguing to argue. It’s stupid.

    Check the play by play. None of the drives ended from a sack or not getting it by running.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    Ok, so #firehuff @RaceBannon ? I don’t think they are terrible, not great for sure but not the worst line we have seen in the last 5 years

    So all of a sudden mediocre is fine with you

    Might want to change your loser er user name. No need to fire Pete. His O line isn't terrible

    He's never had a good one. You're the second to damn him with that faint praise

    On the list of what is wrong with the team. OL is 3 on my list. ILB,, WR and then OL. But on relative basis to the ILB, our OL is all America level. Still want pete fired.
    Our OL is better than our DL and probably our secondary too.
    Wrong
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    Ok, so #firehuff @RaceBannon ? I don’t think they are terrible, not great for sure but not the worst line we have seen in the last 5 years

    So all of a sudden mediocre is fine with you

    Might want to change your loser er user name. No need to fire Pete. His O line isn't terrible

    He's never had a good one. You're the second to damn him with that faint praise

    On the list of what is wrong with the team. OL is 3 on my list. ILB,, WR and then OL. But on relative basis to the ILB, our OL is all America level. Still want pete fired.
    Our OL is better than our DL and probably our secondary too.
    Wrong
    Nope
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    Ok, so #firehuff @RaceBannon ? I don’t think they are terrible, not great for sure but not the worst line we have seen in the last 5 years

    So all of a sudden mediocre is fine with you

    Might want to change your loser er user name. No need to fire Pete. His O line isn't terrible

    He's never had a good one. You're the second to damn him with that faint praise

    On the list of what is wrong with the team. OL is 3 on my list. ILB,, WR and then OL. But on relative basis to the ILB, our OL is all America level. Still want pete fired.

    If the OL was great they would wear other defenses out like furd did our defense. They did it with 6 active OL. Our d took it like lil bitches. I have not seen our OL dominate anyone with a pulse.