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Tlaib says Democrats have discussed detaining White House officials who don't testify

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,072 Founders Club
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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465551-tlaib-says-democrats-have-discussed-detaining-white-house-officials-who-dont
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,531 Standard Supporter
    Haven't really thought this through much - but it seems to me the 5th Amendment was designed to prevent interrogation without indictment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    Let alone whether Congress has authority to issue, compel or enforce its own subpoena.

    https://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1095&context=jpl

    Either way it will be interesting.



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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,023
    It's always the same headline

    Debating, discussing, planning, etc.

    I swear they never actually do anything
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Take your retard argument to someone that actually supported Obama.
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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Wh
    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Were there Obama officials that refused congressional subpoena?
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,531 Standard Supporter
    TheKobeStopper said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Take your retard argument to someone that actually supported Obama.
    You don't understan maff? 20 years goes way past Obama.

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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,531 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    Wh

    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Were there Obama officials that refused congressional subpoena?
    But but....in reverse.

    Nice work.

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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,240 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    Wh

    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Were there Obama officials that refused congressional subpoena?
    Show up and take the 5th like Obama officials.
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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    PurpleThrobber said:

    GDS said:

    Wh

    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Were there Obama officials that refused congressional subpoena?
    But but....in reverse.

    Nice work.

    So you consider it TDS to expect Trump officials to abide by congressional subpoenas because you think the past 3 presidential administrations have avoided accountability. Yet you can’t point to previous instances of administration officials wholesale refusal to testify when subpoenaed...maybe I should have just gone with calling your argument retarded like the previous poster...
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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,160 Founders Club
    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    You mean like the Obama Administration and its use of FISA courts?


    Auce.
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  • Postal91Postal91 Member Posts: 1,885
    That witch is batshit.
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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    pawz said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    You mean like the Obama Administration and its use of FISA courts?


    Auce.
    If there was fisa abuse I’d like to know about it. Trump kept saying he was going to declassify the entire thing - wonder why he didn’t? Trey Gowdy read the unredacted warrant and said the FBI did exactly what we would want them to do given the circumstances. Then again Gowdy is a flaming libtard so why should we trust him...
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,531 Standard Supporter
    GDS said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    GDS said:

    Wh

    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Were there Obama officials that refused congressional subpoena?
    But but....in reverse.

    Nice work.

    So you consider it TDS to expect Trump officials to abide by congressional subpoenas because you think the past 3 presidential administrations have avoided accountability. Yet you can’t point to previous instances of administration officials wholesale refusal to testify when subpoenaed...maybe I should have just gone with calling your argument retarded like the previous poster...
    I'll give you another post before that play is run.

    I said I hadn't put much thought into it - see also shower happy ending - was busy this morning. Quite frankly, hadn't even framed an argument. Just gave people a couple links to contemplate. You know, critical thinking skills applied.

    TDS kicks in immediately apparently.



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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,976 Standard Supporter
    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    A bigger threat than, say, surreptitiously stealing the Democratic Nomination from Bernie Sanders in 2016?
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,837 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    GDS said:

    Wh

    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Were there Obama officials that refused congressional subpoena?
    But but....in reverse.

    Nice work.

    So you consider it TDS to expect Trump officials to abide by congressional subpoenas because you think the past 3 presidential administrations have avoided accountability. Yet you can’t point to previous instances of administration officials wholesale refusal to testify when subpoenaed...maybe I should have just gone with calling your argument retarded like the previous poster...

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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    PurpleThrobber said:

    GDS said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    GDS said:

    Wh

    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Were there Obama officials that refused congressional subpoena?
    But but....in reverse.

    Nice work.

    So you consider it TDS to expect Trump officials to abide by congressional subpoenas because you think the past 3 presidential administrations have avoided accountability. Yet you can’t point to previous instances of administration officials wholesale refusal to testify when subpoenaed...maybe I should have just gone with calling your argument retarded like the previous poster...
    I'll give you another post before that play is run.

    I said I hadn't put much thought into it - see also shower happy ending - was busy this morning. Quite frankly, hadn't even framed an argument. Just gave people a couple links to contemplate. You know, critical thinking skills applied.

    TDS kicks in immediately apparently.



    so you are already disavowing this poast?
    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    As I said earlier - I should have just gone with calling your argument retarded, instead of asking you a question...
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  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    GDS said:

    Wh

    PurpleThrobber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    jesus.

    Did you miss the last 20 years of executive orders and various other bullshit?

    and NOW you want accountability?

    TDS, indeed, fren.

    Were there Obama officials that refused congressional subpoena?
    But but....in reverse.

    Nice work.

    So you consider it TDS to expect Trump officials to abide by congressional subpoenas because you think the past 3 presidential administrations have avoided accountability. Yet you can’t point to previous instances of administration officials wholesale refusal to testify when subpoenaed...maybe I should have just gone with calling your argument retarded like the previous poster...

    The administration claimed executive privilege. The case eventually went to court and the administration had to turn over most of the records. I agree with you that was a case of stonewalling and it took time but eventually the rule of law won out.
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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    TurdBomber said:

    TheKobeStopper said:

    They should absolutely be discussing it. I don’t think they have the power to do it but they should be making sure they don’t.

    Trump is abandoning rule of law and the checks and balances that this country was built on. It’s dangerous and a threat to our democracy. Congress must explore all options to hold him accountable.

    A bigger threat than, say, surreptitiously stealing the Democratic Nomination from Bernie Sanders in 2016?
    Yes, the sitting president pushing for power that cannot be checked is more dangerous than the DNC pushing debates to Friday nights to keep viewership down.
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