Jay'Veon Sunday, 2020 3* RB, Waco (Connally), TX (Committed)

https://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1082818070672863232

https://247sports.com/Player/Jayveon-Sunday-46056699/

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9724400/5bfc8e0b5b3e6609e86e6367

He looks slow so I was curious, no idea if these are good times https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=12992048#!/L0

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jhfstyle24

http://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1181605766698094592

Um.

I don't care what people say/have said. He runs funky but holy shit.

He doesn't have elite long speed but he accelerates turns and cuts well and he seems to have great vision and awareness, not to mention the obvious power. This guy is good.

GrundleStiltzkin

http://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1181605766698094592
Um.

I don't care what people say/have said. He runs funky but holy shit.

He doesn't have elite long speed but he accelerates turns and cuts well and he seems to have great vision and awareness, not to mention the obvious power. This guy is good.

Power with balance. The balance part was more noticeable in junior film with him getting hit more.

And yes, very funky style. Whatever.

bananasnblondes

Sunday had like 260 yards on 20 carries again last weekend. I know high school stats mean nothing but that's still good to hear

Emoterman

#My'Veon

chuck

http://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1181605766698094592

Meh. I'm glad so many here are excited about this slow, mid size power back and the highlights showing him winning low speed races with smaller and slower players who dont want to tackle him. I'm trying to ignore what my eyes are telling me and get on the bandwagon. It's not working though.

FireCohen

http://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1181605766698094592
Meh. I'm glad so many here are excited about this slow, mid size power back and the highlights showing him winning low speed races with smaller and slower players who dont want to tackle him. I'm trying to ignore what my eyes are telling me and get on the bandwagon. It's not working though.

KB is bad recruiter because he is lazy, but he is he a good talent evaluator.

animate

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain

jhfstyle24

http://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1181605766698094592
Meh. I'm glad so many here are excited about this slow, mid size power back and the highlights showing him winning low speed races with smaller and slower players who dont want to tackle him. I'm trying to ignore what my eyes are telling me and get on the bandwagon. It's not working though.
KB is bad recruiter because he is lazy, but he is he a good talent evaluator.

At the end of the day, I want my assistants to be able to recruit, because I want each position coach to put a good product on the field. Recruiting matters, but if you put a good product on the field your job is safe.

So, that's how I evaluate position coaches.

QB: No qualms here. Hard to tell in our stupid ass offense.
RB: Carried by Gaskin, but a consistently good product, even though Boner is a lazy fuck.
WR: Blech. Jury is still out on Junior. If the WR aren't good next year I will be concerned.
TE: Consistently good product. Recruiting could be better, but is improving.
OL: Solid product. Could be better, but Huff has gotten solid results out of an OL that had some holes. Should take a leap in the next 2 years.
DL: Huge hole from lack of recruiting for 2 years, but Malloe is killing it and this will be a great product.
LB: Fucking dogshit. If you can't recruit you better have results. Greggy doesn't. Gate.
DB: Elite product. Not perfect this year but still damn good despite losing lots of experience. Every position group handled like this is a championship.
ST: Not awful this year. Still a gate for Greggy.

chuck

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain

My concern is if he can get out of the backfield. His initial burst is not much better than his long speed. His cutting isn't either. There were cutback lanes all over those clips that he either didn't see or just passed on. His cuts after the first level are rounded and limited in range.

Sorry but I still dont see it. I Think Newton looked way better in HS.

FireCohen

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain
My concern is if he can get out of the backfield. His initial burst is not much better than his long speed. His cutting isn't either. There were cutback lanes all over those clips that he either didn't see or just passed on. His cuts after the first level are rounded and limited in range.

Sorry but I still dont see it. I Think Newton looked way better in HS.

Lol wut??? His highlight were toss sweeps

RoadDawg55

Sunday had like 260 yards on 20 carries again last weekend. I know high school stats mean nothing but that's still good to hear

High school only doesn’t matter when it’s a liked recruit who is underwhelming.

Players that dominate on high school have a better chance at dominating in college. Same for college to NFL.

RoadDawg55

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain
My concern is if he can get out of the backfield. His initial burst is not much better than his long speed. His cutting isn't either. There were cutback lanes all over those clips that he either didn't see or just passed on. His cuts after the first level are rounded and limited in range.

Sorry but I still dont see it. I Think Newton looked way better in HS.

I normally like what you have to say about recruits. I don’t know where you’re coming up with this tho. He looked great. He’s going to be a problem (the good kind) at UW.

jhfstyle24

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain
My concern is if he can get out of the backfield. His initial burst is not much better than his long speed. His cutting isn't either. There were cutback lanes all over those clips that he either didn't see or just passed on. His cuts after the first level are rounded and limited in range.

Sorry but I still dont see it. I Think Newton looked way better in HS.
I normally like what you have to say about recruits. I don’t know where you’re coming up with this tho. He looked great. He’s going to be a problem (the good kind) at UW.

He looks noticeably more explosive than his junior film. He got a lot better. That's the shit I like to see.

He's going to be a stud.

chuck

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain
My concern is if he can get out of the backfield. His initial burst is not much better than his long speed. His cutting isn't either. There were cutback lanes all over those clips that he either didn't see or just passed on. His cuts after the first level are rounded and limited in range.

Sorry but I still dont see it. I Think Newton looked way better in HS.
I normally like what you have to say about recruits. I don’t know where you’re coming up with this tho. He looked great. He’s going to be a problem (the good kind) at UW.

You guys just want him to be good so you'll be right.

I tend to see the upside and am overly optimistic about less heralded guys. I think I'll be proven right this time though. It's a can't lose situation for me. I'll be happy if hes good.

ExtraChrisB

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain
My concern is if he can get out of the backfield. His initial burst is not much better than his long speed. His cutting isn't either. There were cutback lanes all over those clips that he either didn't see or just passed on. His cuts after the first level are rounded and limited in range.

Sorry but I still dont see it. I Think Newton looked way better in HS.
I normally like what you have to say about recruits. I don’t know where you’re coming up with this tho. He looked great. He’s going to be a problem (the good kind) at UW.
You guys just want him to be good so you'll be right.

I tend to see the upside and am overly optimistic about less heralded guys. I think I'll be proven right this time though. It's a can't lose situation for me. I'll be happy if hes good.

Uhh, I only speak for myself, but I'd like him to be good so he can help us win games.

HoustonHusky

http://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1181605766698094592
Meh. I'm glad so many here are excited about this slow, mid size power back and the highlights showing him winning low speed races with smaller and slower players who dont want to tackle him. I'm trying to ignore what my eyes are telling me and get on the bandwagon. It's not working though.
KB is bad recruiter because he is lazy, but he is he a good talent evaluator.
At the end of the day, I want my assistants to be able to recruit, because I want each position coach to put a good product on the field. Recruiting matters, but if you put a good product on the field your job is safe.

So, that's how I evaluate position coaches.

QB: No qualms here. Hard to tell in our stupid ass offense.
RB: Carried by Gaskin, but a consistently good product, even though Boner is a lazy fuck.
WR: Blech. Jury is still out on Junior. If the WR aren't good next year I will be concerned.
TE: Consistently good product. Recruiting could be better, but is improving.
OL: Solid product. Could be better, but Huff has gotten solid results out of an OL that had some holes. Should take a leap in the next 2 years.
DL: Huge hole from lack of recruiting for 2 years, but Malloe is killing it and this will be a great product.
LB: Fucking dogshit. If you can't recruit you better have results. Greggy doesn't. Gate.
DB: Elite product. Not perfect this year but still damn good despite losing lots of experience. Every position group handled like this is a championship.
ST: Not awful this year. Still a gate for Greggy.

I love me some Jimmy, but our Safety recruiting has been shite between Rapp and Williams/Turner.

BleachedAnusDawg

http://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1181605766698094592

I don't know why, but the play @ 2:26 cracks me up. #58 executes what may be the most awkward and least athletic pull of all time.

RoadDawg55

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain
My concern is if he can get out of the backfield. His initial burst is not much better than his long speed. His cutting isn't either. There were cutback lanes all over those clips that he either didn't see or just passed on. His cuts after the first level are rounded and limited in range.

Sorry but I still dont see it. I Think Newton looked way better in HS.
I normally like what you have to say about recruits. I don’t know where you’re coming up with this tho. He looked great. He’s going to be a problem (the good kind) at UW.
You guys just want him to be good so you'll be right.

I tend to see the upside and am overly optimistic about less heralded guys. I think I'll be proven right this time though. It's a can't lose situation for me. I'll be happy if hes good.
Uhh, I only speak for myself, but I'd like him to be good so he can help us win games.

This. Why would I care if Adams ends up being better? I like Sunday better as a recruit, but none of this matters once they enroll. I want all of them to be really good.

dnc

http://twitter.com/Athletic_jay_/status/1181605766698094592
Meh. I'm glad so many here are excited about this slow, mid size power back and the highlights showing him winning low speed races with smaller and slower players who dont want to tackle him. I'm trying to ignore what my eyes are telling me and get on the bandwagon. It's not working though.
KB is bad recruiter because he is lazy, but he is he a good talent evaluator.
At the end of the day, I want my assistants to be able to recruit, because I want each position coach to put a good product on the field. Recruiting matters, but if you put a good product on the field your job is safe.

So, that's how I evaluate position coaches.

QB: No qualms here. Hard to tell in our stupid ass offense.
RB: Carried by Gaskin, but a consistently good product, even though Boner is a lazy fuck.
WR: Blech. Jury is still out on Junior. If the WR aren't good next year I will be concerned.
TE: Consistently good product. Recruiting could be better, but is improving.
OL: Solid product. Could be better, but Huff has gotten solid results out of an OL that had some holes. Should take a leap in the next 2 years.
DL: Huge hole from lack of recruiting for 2 years, but Malloe is killing it and this will be a great product.
LB: Fucking dogshit. If you can't recruit you better have results. Greggy doesn't. Gate.
DB: Elite product. Not perfect this year but still damn good despite losing lots of experience. Every position group handled like this is a championship.
ST: Not awful this year. Still a gate for Greggy.
I love me some Jimmy, but our Safety recruiting has been shite between Rapp and Williams/Turner.

Has it? I think Jimmy is generally overrated as a recruiter and underrated as a developer but I don't see a lot of safety misses between Rapp and Williams. Irvin's been banged up but if he's healthy he's either playing safety or corner and freeing Gordon to play safety.

Jimmy whiffed on McKinney, apparently. Who else?

chuck

People get too wound up about absolute speed

I'd rather have a guy who can move the chains, fall forward and make the offense chug.

Rather than a guy who once in awhile breaks a big run but usually just slams into the offensive line or gets swallowed up for no gain
My concern is if he can get out of the backfield. His initial burst is not much better than his long speed. His cutting isn't either. There were cutback lanes all over those clips that he either didn't see or just passed on. His cuts after the first level are rounded and limited in range.

Sorry but I still dont see it. I Think Newton looked way better in HS.
I normally like what you have to say about recruits. I don’t know where you’re coming up with this tho. He looked great. He’s going to be a problem (the good kind) at UW.
You guys just want him to be good so you'll be right.

I tend to see the upside and am overly optimistic about less heralded guys. I think I'll be proven right this time though. It's a can't lose situation for me. I'll be happy if hes good.
Uhh, I only speak for myself, but I'd like him to be good so he can help us win games.

No fucking shit. That's the joke.