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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,303 Founders Club
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,213
    Helton has won a Rose Bowl and popped off.

    Doogs on here forget that.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,279

    Fight On!

    Faith Family Football
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
    Yeah, but he would have to live in Oregon.

    LA > white trash flyover country
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    PurpleJ said:

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
    Yeah, but he would have to live in Oregon.

    LA > white trash flyover country
    LA is the ugliest sprawl of concrete in the country.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    PurpleJ said:

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
    Yeah, but he would have to live in Oregon.

    LA > white trash flyover country
    LA is the ugliest sprawl of concrete in the country.
    On a clear day you can see the Hollywood Sign from campus
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
    Yeah, but he would have to live in Oregon.

    LA > white trash flyover country
    LA is the ugliest sprawl of concrete in the country.
    Weather, women, beaches. I love LA. I might move back someday.

    Also, I take it you’ve never been to NYC or basically any shithole out east.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    PurpleJ said:

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
    Yeah, but he would have to live in Oregon.

    LA > white trash flyover country
    LA is the ugliest sprawl of concrete in the country.
    Clearly you have not been to Houston s/o @WilburHooksHands
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,139
    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    I get this, but it will create an us against the world mentality. With Urban Meyer as head coach. They will get him if they really want him.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,048
    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
    T Boone Pickens died two weeks ago
    Money takes longer to die. That guy left enuff for two generations of dumb dumbs to fuck it up.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,048

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    I get this, but it will create an us against the world mentality. With Urban Meyer as head coach. They will get him if they really want him.
    Miami of yester year owns that. It's painfully awkward when other teams, including modern Miami, try to rip it off
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Helton has won a Rose Bowl and popped off.

    Doogs on here forget that.

    Sam Darnold won a RB and popped off.

    Couldn’t win the conference or go to the playoff though because Helton picked the wrong QB out of the gate.

    Doogs on here forget that.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited September 2019
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Will an SC win Saturday save Heltons job?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited September 2019

    Helton has won a Rose Bowl and popped off.

    Doogs on here forget that.

    I think he’s a bad coach, but he’s not THAT bad. He’s a Sark level coach. A little better when you consider the Rose Bowl win.
    I don't think he's better than Sark. Yeah he won a RB which Sark never did but he also went 5-7 with USC talent which Sark never did. Generational QB's sometimes win stuff for shit coaches. See Marcus Mariota/Mark Helfrich.

    And Country Legend is a much worse recruiterer than Seven.

    Given the choice between handing UW over to either of them I'd hire Sark and then kill myself.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
    Yeah, but he would have to live in Oregon.

    LA > white trash flyover country
    LA is the ugliest sprawl of concrete in the country.
    Weather, women, beaches. I love LA. I might move back someday.

    Also, I take it you’ve never been to NYC or basically any shithole out east.
    Have you visited LA in the last 5 years? Tents and public defecation are all the rage now. I'll take SD over LA any day.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited September 2019
    dnc said:

    Helton has won a Rose Bowl and popped off.

    Doogs on here forget that.

    I think he’s a bad coach, but he’s not THAT bad. He’s a Sark level coach. A little better when you consider the Rose Bowl win.
    I don't think he's better than Sark. Yeah he won a RB which Sark never did but he also went 5-7 with USC talent which Sark never did. Generational QB's sometimes win stuff for shit coaches. See Marcus Mariota/Mark Helfrich.

    And Country Legend is a much worse recruiterer than Seven.

    Given the choice between handing UW over to either of them I'd hire Sark and then kill myself.
    Disagree. Sark's Fight the Fuck On outburst destabilized the program and weakened SC's recruiting. They still signed talent but lost their monopoly on the best players on the west coast.

    More on this here: https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/63370/the-only-thing-standing-in-the-way-of-urban-and-usc#latest
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Baseman said:

    I support SC extending Helton. Trojan fans can't grasp the damage Kiffin and Sark did, which is true. If SC wins on Saturday and cobbles together 9+ wins, Helton may actually get more time to get his guys in there.

    Urban is not the slam dunk replacement for Helton many think he is. After a string of scandals; Pete's sanctions, the Kiffin/Sark shit show, the MeToo movement and Urban's checkered off the field past, he'll be a tough sell for a school with $215 million+ of liability for alleged sexual abuse.

    He's not a tough sell for an aging billionaire who wants to buy a title though...
    Yeah, but he would have to live in Oregon.

    LA > white trash flyover country
    LA is the ugliest sprawl of concrete in the country.
    Weather, women, beaches. I love LA. I might move back someday.

    Also, I take it you’ve never been to NYC or basically any shithole out east.
    Have you visited LA in the last 5 years? Tents and public defecation are all the rage now. I'll take SD over LA any day.
    That’s true of many major cities. At least the LA homeless are smart enough to be homeless in sunny weather. Besides, you shouldn’t be living in LA proper anyways.

    But some people are into being defecated on. So there’s that.

    Agree on San Diego, but I’ve always felt that way. Except you have to compete for pussy with a bunch of marines and navy seals. And Sea World. Fuck that place. Magic Mountain and Disneyland are superior.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Baseman said:

    dnc said:

    Helton has won a Rose Bowl and popped off.

    Doogs on here forget that.

    I think he’s a bad coach, but he’s not THAT bad. He’s a Sark level coach. A little better when you consider the Rose Bowl win.
    I don't think he's better than Sark. Yeah he won a RB which Sark never did but he also went 5-7 with USC talent which Sark never did. Generational QB's sometimes win stuff for shit coaches. See Marcus Mariota/Mark Helfrich.

    And Country Legend is a much worse recruiterer than Seven.

    Given the choice between handing UW over to either of them I'd hire Sark and then kill myself.
    Disagree. Sark's Fight the Fuck On outburst destabilized the program and weakened SC's recruiting. They still signed talent but lost their monopoly on the best players on the west coast.

    More on this here: https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/63370/the-only-thing-standing-in-the-way-of-urban-and-usc#latest
    A halfway decent recruiter would have bounced back from that rather easily.

    Helton isn't that.