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Jay'Veon Sunday, 2020 3* RB, Waco (Connally), TX (Committed)

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  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    I once flew first class due to the airline double booking my basic coach seat so they had to give me an upgrade to an empty first class seat. It was great. I had no idea the food was so much better and they even give you little warm towels to clean your hands or face with. I sat next to this little book worm white girl with glasses who was reading a book the entire time. She wasn't bad but she wasn't unfuckable either. Anyway, during the flight I stood up briefly to take off my jacket revealing this dope shirt I had underneath. I heard her say something but it was too quite for me to make out what she said so I just ignored it figuring she was talking to a friend or family member. It took my brain a few seconds to put it together, but I later realized she had said "nice shirt" to me, but by that point it was too late and awkward to say "thanks" so I didn't say anything. Rest of the flight was super awkward. I don't think she looked away from her book the rest of the time we were in the air. Sad.

    Black status denied! Real player would have banged her in the first class lavatory.
    1. I can't even stand up straight in a fucking airplane lavatory. I'm a HUGE fucker.
    2. Her age was ambiguous. She was young looking enough to easily still be in high school. I don't play that shit.
    3. She wasn't bad enough to motivate me to even get her number.
    You have problems dude. A woman complimented your shirt. That was the end of it.

    This is some incel fantasy shit.
    The only incel shit is your reaction to a story that had nothing to do with wanting to fuck the bitch. It was literally just about a run of the mill awkward moment story for laughs. The story would have been exactly the same if it was an old lady or a dude. There was zero fantasy to fuck her on my end and zero suggestion that she wanted to fuck me. It wasn't sexual at all. Why would anybody interpret it that way? Holy fuck there are some insecure fucks on this board. Yeah, I probably could have gotten her number and donkey fucked her later if she was interested. I don't know. But so what? That wasn't the basis of the story at all but even if it was, so what? You would only react negatively if you're insecure. Y'all weird as fuck. I guess I should expect nothing less from a bunch of basement dwellers. Maybe take a walk for perspective. The world isn't incels versus normies. Grow up.
    You sound like a gay.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    She wasn't bad but she wasn't unfuckable either.

    I once flew first class due to the airline double booking my basic coach seat so they had to give me an upgrade to an empty first class seat. It was great. I had no idea the food was so much better and they even give you little warm towels to clean your hands or face with. I sat next to this little book worm white girl with glasses who was reading a book the entire time. She wasn't bad but she wasn't unfuckable either. Anyway, during the flight I stood up briefly to take off my jacket revealing this dope shirt I had underneath. I heard her say something but it was too quite for me to make out what she said so I just ignored it figuring she was talking to a friend or family member. It took my brain a few seconds to put it together, but I later realized she had said "nice shirt" to me, but by that point it was too late and awkward to say "thanks" so I didn't say anything. Rest of the flight was super awkward. I don't think she looked away from her book the rest of the time we were in the air. Sad.

    Black status denied! Real player would have banged her in the first class lavatory.
    1. I can't even stand up straight in a fucking airplane lavatory. I'm a HUGE fucker.
    2. Her age was ambiguous. She was young looking enough to easily still be in high school. I don't play that shit.
    3. She wasn't bad enough to motivate me to even get her number.
    You have problems dude. A woman complimented your shirt. That was the end of it.

    This is some incel fantasy shit.
    The story would have been exactly the same if it was an old lady or a dude. Yeah, I probably could have gotten her number and donkey fucked her later if she was interested. I don't know. But so what? Y'all weird as fuck. Grow up.
    That was literally just to add detail to the story and paint the picture. If she was 300 pounds, I would have mentioned that too. Some of you just made this thread hella weird. I get it if it wasn't funny but if you don't find a random post funny, fucking ignore it and move on instead of fagging up a thread with weird shit.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited June 2019
    AlCzervik said:

    I once flew first class due to the airline double booking my basic coach seat so they had to give me an upgrade to an empty first class seat. It was great. I had no idea the food was so much better and they even give you little warm towels to clean your hands or face with. I sat next to this little book worm white girl with glasses who was reading a book the entire time. She wasn't bad but she wasn't unfuckable either. Anyway, during the flight I stood up briefly to take off my jacket revealing this dope shirt I had underneath. I heard her say something but it was too quite for me to make out what she said so I just ignored it figuring she was talking to a friend or family member. It took my brain a few seconds to put it together, but I later realized she had said "nice shirt" to me, but by that point it was too late and awkward to say "thanks" so I didn't say anything. Rest of the flight was super awkward. I don't think she looked away from her book the rest of the time we were in the air. Sad.

    Black status denied! Real player would have banged her in the first class lavatory.
    1. I can't even stand up straight in a fucking airplane lavatory. I'm a HUGE fucker.
    2. Her age was ambiguous. She was young looking enough to easily still be in high school. I don't play that shit.
    3. She wasn't bad enough to motivate me to even get her number.
    You have problems dude. A woman complimented your shirt. That was the end of it.

    This is some incel fantasy shit.
    The only incel shit is your reaction to a story that had nothing to do with wanting to fuck the bitch. It was literally just about a run of the mill awkward moment story for laughs. The story would have been exactly the same if it was an old lady or a dude. There was zero fantasy to fuck her on my end and zero suggestion that she wanted to fuck me. It wasn't sexual at all. Why would anybody interpret it that way? Holy fuck there are some insecure fucks on this board. Yeah, I probably could have gotten her number and donkey fucked her later if she was interested. I don't know. But so what? That wasn't the basis of the story at all but even if it was, so what? You would only react negatively if you're insecure. Y'all weird as fuck. I guess I should expect nothing less from a bunch of basement dwellers. Maybe take a walk for perspective. The world isn't incels versus normies. Grow up.
    You sound like a gay.
    Cool, gay people are some of the best people. I take that as a compliment. Move on.
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    I finally got around to watching his film. He does look really awkward running but he also isn't brought down very easy. He looks like he could be a good change of pace type back. A couple years in the weight room and he could be like a Lavon Coleman type back as others have mentioned.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    I finally got around to watching his film. He does look really awkward running but he also isn't brought down very easy. He looks like he could be a good change of pace type back. A couple years in the weight room and he could be like a Lavon Coleman type back as others have mentioned.

    The running style is awkward ... but that can be a plus as much as a minus

    When I see guys like that that are super strong I just see somebody that has a chance to be really hard to tackle
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    If we're leveling up on the offensive line as we're lead to believe then sunday's running style could very well be awesome. Lumbering hard to tackle madness
  • Balls_Deep
    Balls_Deep Member Posts: 64
    Similar track 100 and 200 times to Zach Charbonnet. Maybe he’s not as slow as he looks. He ran a 11.29 100 last year and improved his 200 time significantly.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    if we’re bashing incel fantasies then I am IN
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072

    Similar track 100 and 200 times to Zach Charbonnet. Maybe he’s not as slow as he looks. He ran a 11.29 100 last year and improved his 200 time significantly.

    I feel like something was missed in this thread. We are pessimistic about Sunday because he looks slow on tape and his track times don't refute that. We don't dislike him because of the track times. Charbonnet and Adams look plenty fast on tape.

    And still, Sunday could get faster and end up being a great back. The improvements are at least encouraging.
    I’ve heard he’s Earl Campbell 2.0, right ballz?
  • Balls_Deep
    Balls_Deep Member Posts: 64
    Pettis has an unorthodox stride and looked slow. But he wasn’t. I think this kid will be okay with some Socha.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031

    Pettis has an unorthodox stride and looked slow. But he wasn’t. I think this kid will be okay with some Socha.

    Most running backs rarely get to play without dealing with a shit ton of contact so my take is this kid has balance and power and wiggle and vision. He’s going to be good for us. Even gaskin got caught from behind but it didn’t matter when he could somehow slip ahead for positive yardage every time he touched the ball.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    Similar track 100 and 200 times to Zach Charbonnet. Maybe he’s not as slow as he looks. He ran a 11.29 100 last year and improved his 200 time significantly.

    I feel like something was missed in this thread. We are pessimistic about Sunday because he looks slow on tape and his track times don't refute that. We don't dislike him because of the track times. Charbonnet and Adams look plenty fast on tape.

    And still, Sunday could get faster and end up being a great back. The improvements are at least encouraging.
    I’ve heard he’s Earl Campbell 2.0, right ballz?
    Campbell was a little before my time. More like Frank Gore. Anybody not cool with having a Frank Gore type back on the roster?
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028

    Swaye said:

    RealRhino said:

    I screwed up the quote thing, so I'll do it manually:

    Swaye: This is actually a good point. One I hadn't thought of. Might have merit. Plus the kid is black. And named Jay'Veon. I'd rather have Bijon, but this isn't a totally terrible situation.

    I think I am mostly bothered by Low Hanging Fruit Boner mailing it in again. Lazy as fuck. A koala has more energy.

    Me: Getting a black guy from Texas is not low-hanging fruit.

    Also (re Corleone's post), we got a visit from Kendall Milton. That's a sniff, yes? For whatever reason it seems as if he wasn't impressed with us. And how do we know we "took" his commitment (rather than him deciding the time was right) and it's related to Bijan's visit at all?

    I obviously don't know their recruiting board, but we offered Bijan mid-'17, Ngata Feb '18, Adams Nov '18, Sunday early Jan '19, and Sevion Morrison late Jan '19. As far as I know, we don't have any other open RB offers. That suggests to me Sunday was in that top tier. Maybe a slight fallback plan, but not very far back. This isn't the "local 3-star that you take near the end of the cycle when it's clear you aren't going to land your big fish" type of offer.

    I'll end with what I consider some interesting stuff. Maybe you guys are such film-grinding eval stars that you won't care, but maybe it'll give you pause. Why do some people seem down on this guy relative to our other targets? His athleticism, right? He's "slow ride," right? Chew on this:

    He runs a faster 100M than Gee Scott.
    He runs a faster 200M than Sam Adams, Gee Scott and Ayden Hector.
    Bijan claims he runs a 4.5 (as of 9/3/18), but at some point he did one of those testing events and he posted a 4.77 40 at the same size as Sunday. So either he had a bad day or he's not being completely truthful. Or he's lowered his time through work (he himself claimed he lowered it from 4.6 to 4.5. so maybe he lowered it from 4.77 to 4.6 to 4.5). Sunday's coach said he runs a 4.5 40. Even allowing for some exaggeration, it's possible he's actually pretty close to Bijan.

    Hey RR. Don't worry, I do it manually all the time. lulz

    Also, I am basing low hanging fruit off of his offer sheet, which is totally unspectacular. But, I did/do agree with the notion that we offered early, so clearly to our coaches, and based off your timeline, he was number 4 on our board out of 5. Hell, Adams, who is elite to me, is 3rd on our board. I actually prefer Adams to Ngata, but what do I know. I'd slot him second behind Bijan.

    If we end up with Adams and Sunday, then we got the numbers 3 and 4 RBs on our coaches board, and one of them is borderline elite so overall it would be a success. But Boner has shown a tendency to just mail it in for years and always lay down the bunt instead of swinging for the fences. My opinion.
    @Swaye can't read so he couldn't remember this but some of us have seen their big board. He was a clever red man and figured it out anyways. They had 5 RB's targeted for 2020 confirmed. Sunday wasn't the top target confirmed(duh). I'll be perfectly happy if he's the 2nd back in a 2 back class that fills out the lower middle depth of this class.
    Bump for Adam's commitment.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Swaye said:

    RealRhino said:

    I screwed up the quote thing, so I'll do it manually:

    Swaye: This is actually a good point. One I hadn't thought of. Might have merit. Plus the kid is black. And named Jay'Veon. I'd rather have Bijon, but this isn't a totally terrible situation.

    I think I am mostly bothered by Low Hanging Fruit Boner mailing it in again. Lazy as fuck. A koala has more energy.

    Me: Getting a black guy from Texas is not low-hanging fruit.

    Also (re Corleone's post), we got a visit from Kendall Milton. That's a sniff, yes? For whatever reason it seems as if he wasn't impressed with us. And how do we know we "took" his commitment (rather than him deciding the time was right) and it's related to Bijan's visit at all?

    I obviously don't know their recruiting board, but we offered Bijan mid-'17, Ngata Feb '18, Adams Nov '18, Sunday early Jan '19, and Sevion Morrison late Jan '19. As far as I know, we don't have any other open RB offers. That suggests to me Sunday was in that top tier. Maybe a slight fallback plan, but not very far back. This isn't the "local 3-star that you take near the end of the cycle when it's clear you aren't going to land your big fish" type of offer.

    I'll end with what I consider some interesting stuff. Maybe you guys are such film-grinding eval stars that you won't care, but maybe it'll give you pause. Why do some people seem down on this guy relative to our other targets? His athleticism, right? He's "slow ride," right? Chew on this:

    He runs a faster 100M than Gee Scott.
    He runs a faster 200M than Sam Adams, Gee Scott and Ayden Hector.
    Bijan claims he runs a 4.5 (as of 9/3/18), but at some point he did one of those testing events and he posted a 4.77 40 at the same size as Sunday. So either he had a bad day or he's not being completely truthful. Or he's lowered his time through work (he himself claimed he lowered it from 4.6 to 4.5. so maybe he lowered it from 4.77 to 4.6 to 4.5). Sunday's coach said he runs a 4.5 40. Even allowing for some exaggeration, it's possible he's actually pretty close to Bijan.

    Hey RR. Don't worry, I do it manually all the time. lulz

    Also, I am basing low hanging fruit off of his offer sheet, which is totally unspectacular. But, I did/do agree with the notion that we offered early, so clearly to our coaches, and based off your timeline, he was number 4 on our board out of 5. Hell, Adams, who is elite to me, is 3rd on our board. I actually prefer Adams to Ngata, but what do I know. I'd slot him second behind Bijan.

    If we end up with Adams and Sunday, then we got the numbers 3 and 4 RBs on our coaches board, and one of them is borderline elite so overall it would be a success. But Boner has shown a tendency to just mail it in for years and always lay down the bunt instead of swinging for the fences. My opinion.
    @Swaye can't read so he couldn't remember this but some of us have seen their big board. He was a clever red man and figured it out anyways. They had 5 RB's targeted for 2020 confirmed. Sunday wasn't the top target confirmed(duh). I'll be perfectly happy if he's the 2nd back in a 2 back class that fills out the lower middle depth of this class.
    Bump for Adam's commitment.
    Where was Adams on said big bored?
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    edited July 2019
    That pic of the board is pretty outdated now, and didn't even make sense/was incomplete at the time. It had 1 ILB for the 2019 class and we took like 6.

    Especially because Adams hardly played any varsity until his Junior year
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028
    All fair but my point is/was I'm happy with these two backs as our RB class.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072

    So thanks for all the horrible advice assholes. I’m sure you missed me last night, I was shit faced. Made it to Waco, luggage didn’t. Luckily I carried on my suit, shirt, and tie. Still fucking drunk I get up at 6:30a to eat and sober up. Caught a lyft to Walmart as nothing else was fucking open. Some how kinda found a pair of shoes and belt to match. Finish getting ready. Go to my fucking interview still kinda drunk. It was an all day thing and so I spent 6 hrs just waiting to take a fucking nap.

    Miracle if I get this one... Swaye, you hiring?

    I guess miracles do happen...

    Next stop @Rapeculturedawg @ArtBriles @joanagainesiwillfindyou

    Is TexASS still the souwf?
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    So thanks for all the horrible advice assholes. I’m sure you missed me last night, I was shit faced. Made it to Waco, luggage didn’t. Luckily I carried on my suit, shirt, and tie. Still fucking drunk I get up at 6:30a to eat and sober up. Caught a lyft to Walmart as nothing else was fucking open. Some how kinda found a pair of shoes and belt to match. Finish getting ready. Go to my fucking interview still kinda drunk. It was an all day thing and so I spent 6 hrs just waiting to take a fucking nap.

    Miracle if I get this one... Swaye, you hiring?

    I guess miracles do happen...

    Next stop @Rapeculturedawg @ArtBriles @joanagainesiwillfindyou

    Is TexASS still the souwf?
    Say ‘Hi’ to Chip and Joanne.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072
    USMChawk said:

    So thanks for all the horrible advice assholes. I’m sure you missed me last night, I was shit faced. Made it to Waco, luggage didn’t. Luckily I carried on my suit, shirt, and tie. Still fucking drunk I get up at 6:30a to eat and sober up. Caught a lyft to Walmart as nothing else was fucking open. Some how kinda found a pair of shoes and belt to match. Finish getting ready. Go to my fucking interview still kinda drunk. It was an all day thing and so I spent 6 hrs just waiting to take a fucking nap.

    Miracle if I get this one... Swaye, you hiring?

    I guess miracles do happen...

    Next stop @Rapeculturedawg @ArtBriles @joanagainesiwillfindyou

    Is TexASS still the souwf?
    Say ‘Hi’ to Chip and Joanne.
    Would you like a $40 candle from magnolia?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Newton 2.0. My favorite thing about Sunday are the tacklers that want no part of going head up with him.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    this kid is definitelygoing to make coug co-ed shit themselves :wink:
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam

    Newton 2.0. My favorite thing about Sunday are the tacklers that want no part of going head up with him.
    Yeah that's what stood out to me the most when his thread here first started. There were a lot of defenders in position to hit him who somehow managed to miss. He isn't Barry Sanders. They were missing because they were afraid of him. Its comical and why I was never fully against his recruitment.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    this kid has a great story and plays with a chip on his shoulder. He may not be the most talented (of course bijan robinson is better) but there's a lot to like here
  • vadawg
    vadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 467 Swaye's Wigwam
    Still has the weirdest running style I've seen in a long time. Unless he's playing against a bunch of Desmond Trufants in college, he's going to get hit.

    I do hope he works out for us....he's a good kid.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    vadawg said:

    Still has the weirdest running style I've seen in a long time. Unless he's playing against a bunch of Desmond Trufants in college, he's going to get hit.

    I do hope he works out for us....he's a good kid.

    So what I see is a unique gait that Dante Pettis has that makes him very intriguing. In traffic his body leans way ahead of his legs so you can't really get to his feet but he seems to have the strength to get through contact moving forward and still has body control that he can go horizontal. In space the gait makes it tough for tacklers to get the right angle on him. I would suggest that this type of running style only works where a guy can still maintain lateral control (which he can) and where he's tough/violent enough to hammer through tacklers (seems to be)... call me intrigued with the unconventional.