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  • HuskiesADW
    HuskiesADW Member Posts: 141
    I honestly was never in the military so I won't go about arguing which side has better nuclear weaponry. I question all the internet know it alls.

    What I find more interesting is the similarity between Putin and Hitler. I mean this can't be just a coincidence:

    Hitler rose to power in a Democratic Germany and quickly turned it into a totalitarian democracy (essentially a dictatorship that is masked by a democracy) ran by the Nazi party that through propaganda and imprisoning political opposition lead to only one real option for citizens to vote on.

    Putin has likewise followed a similar path in making a totalitarian democracy that votes all things Putin. The parliament and every form of government in Russia does as Putin says. He likewise has used propaganda, imprisonment of political opposition and changed Russian laws to stay in power.

    They likewise took over for two former superpowers (Hitler with Germany and Putin with Russia) that were in a dire economic position where both nations were essentially bankrupt and high inflation.

    Both improved the economy quickly through industrialization, government projects and natural resources.

    After economy started to thrive they both hosted the Olympic games to demonstrate political might.

    They also both turned to expansion in a similar matter. Hitler with Austria/Sudetenland where in both cases he used the excuse of protecting German people. In Austria he first over-threw the government to create upheaval and quickly sent in troops and established a puppet government. In Putin's case he uses the political troubles of Ukraine to stage protests that "threaten" ethnic Russians to move into Ukraine militarily. As such he will take over a large portion of Ukraine when this is all said and done (at least by the looks of it).

    Europe/U.S. proposed sanctions against Germany but it was all talk as no one in Europe wanted another war and if Hitler expanded a little to preserve peace it was "fine" by the "West". At the end of the day war was just too expensive. In Putin's case again we see the EU and the U.S. tired of war. They will throw empty jabs at Putin but do nothing to really help Ukraine.

    Than once Hitler grabbed a few other territories Europe became concerned. Putin will follow Ukraine with Belarus and perhaps Moldova/Estonia/Lithuania/Georgia/etc.,

    Hitler invades Poland and Europe is forced into WWII. Putin will invade Poland and start WWIII.

    Japan wants to expand and joins Germany/Axis and takes over the West Pacific and invades China. China wants to expand militarily and will invade nearby Islands/nations to expand militarily thereby joining Russia. Welcome to WWIII.

    Everything seems to fall in place. Therefore Putin = Hitler. Mind F****** blown.
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303

    I honestly was never in the military so I won't go about arguing which side has better nuclear weaponry. I question all the internet know it alls.

    What I find more interesting is the similarity between Putin and Hitler. I mean this can't be just a coincidence:

    Hitler rose to power in a Democratic Germany and quickly turned it into a totalitarian democracy (essentially a dictatorship that is masked by a democracy) ran by the Nazi party that through propaganda and imprisoning political opposition lead to only one real option for citizens to vote on.

    Putin has likewise followed a similar path in making a totalitarian democracy that votes all things Putin. The parliament and every form of government in Russia does as Putin says. He likewise has used propaganda, imprisonment of political opposition and changed Russian laws to stay in power.

    They likewise took over for two former superpowers (Hitler with Germany and Putin with Russia) that were in a dire economic position where both nations were essentially bankrupt and high inflation.

    Both improved the economy quickly through industrialization, government projects and natural resources.

    After economy started to thrive they both hosted the Olympic games to demonstrate political might.

    They also both turned to expansion in a similar matter. Hitler with Austria/Sudetenland where in both cases he used the excuse of protecting German people. In Austria he first over-threw the government to create upheaval and quickly sent in troops and established a puppet government. In Putin's case he uses the political troubles of Ukraine to stage protests that "threaten" ethnic Russians to move into Ukraine militarily. As such he will take over a large portion of Ukraine when this is all said and done (at least by the looks of it).

    Europe/U.S. proposed sanctions against Germany but it was all talk as no one in Europe wanted another war and if Hitler expanded a little to preserve peace it was "fine" by the "West". At the end of the day war was just too expensive. In Putin's case again we see the EU and the U.S. tired of war. They will throw empty jabs at Putin but do nothing to really help Ukraine.

    Than once Hitler grabbed a few other territories Europe became concerned. Putin will follow Ukraine with Belarus and perhaps Moldova/Estonia/Lithuania/Georgia/etc.,

    Hitler invades Poland and Europe is forced into WWII. Putin will invade Poland and start WWIII.

    Japan wants to expand and joins Germany/Axis and takes over the West Pacific and invades China. China wants to expand militarily and will invade nearby Islands/nations to expand militarily thereby joining Russia. Welcome to WWIII.

    Everything seems to fall in place. Therefore Putin = Hitler. Mind F****** blown.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQg2vMl34KI
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    I honestly was never in the military so I won't go about arguing which side has better nuclear weaponry. I question all the internet know it alls.

    What I find more interesting is the similarity between Putin and Hitler. I mean this can't be just a coincidence:

    Hitler rose to power in a Democratic Germany and quickly turned it into a totalitarian democracy (essentially a dictatorship that is masked by a democracy) ran by the Nazi party that through propaganda and imprisoning political opposition lead to only one real option for citizens to vote on.

    Putin has likewise followed a similar path in making a totalitarian democracy that votes all things Putin. The parliament and every form of government in Russia does as Putin says. He likewise has used propaganda, imprisonment of political opposition and changed Russian laws to stay in power.

    They likewise took over for two former superpowers (Hitler with Germany and Putin with Russia) that were in a dire economic position where both nations were essentially bankrupt and high inflation.

    Both improved the economy quickly through industrialization, government projects and natural resources.

    After economy started to thrive they both hosted the Olympic games to demonstrate political might.

    They also both turned to expansion in a similar matter. Hitler with Austria/Sudetenland where in both cases he used the excuse of protecting German people. In Austria he first over-threw the government to create upheaval and quickly sent in troops and established a puppet government. In Putin's case he uses the political troubles of Ukraine to stage protests that "threaten" ethnic Russians to move into Ukraine militarily. As such he will take over a large portion of Ukraine when this is all said and done (at least by the looks of it).

    Europe/U.S. proposed sanctions against Germany but it was all talk as no one in Europe wanted another war and if Hitler expanded a little to preserve peace it was "fine" by the "West". At the end of the day war was just too expensive. In Putin's case again we see the EU and the U.S. tired of war. They will throw empty jabs at Putin but do nothing to really help Ukraine.

    Than once Hitler grabbed a few other territories Europe became concerned. Putin will follow Ukraine with Belarus and perhaps Moldova/Estonia/Lithuania/Georgia/etc.,

    Hitler invades Poland and Europe is forced into WWII. Putin will invade Poland and start WWIII.

    Japan wants to expand and joins Germany/Axis and takes over the West Pacific and invades China. China wants to expand militarily and will invade nearby Islands/nations to expand militarily thereby joining Russia. Welcome to WWIII.

    Everything seems to fall in place. Therefore Putin = Hitler. Mind F****** blown.

    Disagree with a lot of this.

    - Putin didn't write a version of Mein Kampf detailing his hatred for any particular ethnic/societal groups or jot down how he plans to take over the world and cause worldwide destruction.

    - Putin didn't rise to power in a democratic country. Russia has never been democratic. The tsars, the communist leaders. Putin is merely following in the footsteps of the past. Gorbachev appointed Yeltsin. Yeltsin appointed Putin. Voting is just a formality. Russia has always had an autocrat/strongman as leader. Putin didn't arrest dictatorial power from a democratic country, but he has solidified his power so that he would be difficult to remove and probably will be a leader for life provided he stops being stupid and thinking he can invade other countries whenever he sees fit.

    - Russia suffered most from Nazi Germany. I highly doubt they would try to do the same to the world.

    - Where are the Herman Gorings, the Heinrich Himmlers, the Joseph Goebbels of Putin's regime? He hasn't installed any clever henchmen in places of power like Hitler did.

    To equate Putin to Hitler doesn't fly. Putin is a bully, and even though his favorite song is the Beatle's "Back in the USSR," I doubt if he is really naïve enough to think he could pull that off without stiff world resistance.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    edited March 2014

    I honestly was never in the military so I won't go about arguing which side has better nuclear weaponry. I question all the internet know it alls.

    What I find more interesting is the similarity between Putin and Hitler. I mean this can't be just a coincidence:

    Hitler rose to power in a Democratic Germany and quickly turned it into a totalitarian democracy (essentially a dictatorship that is masked by a democracy) ran by the Nazi party that through propaganda and imprisoning political opposition lead to only one real option for citizens to vote on.

    Putin has likewise followed a similar path in making a totalitarian democracy that votes all things Putin. The parliament and every form of government in Russia does as Putin says. He likewise has used propaganda, imprisonment of political opposition and changed Russian laws to stay in power.

    They likewise took over for two former superpowers (Hitler with Germany and Putin with Russia) that were in a dire economic position where both nations were essentially bankrupt and high inflation.

    Both improved the economy quickly through industrialization, government projects and natural resources.

    After economy started to thrive they both hosted the Olympic games to demonstrate political might.

    They also both turned to expansion in a similar matter. Hitler with Austria/Sudetenland where in both cases he used the excuse of protecting German people. In Austria he first over-threw the government to create upheaval and quickly sent in troops and established a puppet government. In Putin's case he uses the political troubles of Ukraine to stage protests that "threaten" ethnic Russians to move into Ukraine militarily. As such he will take over a large portion of Ukraine when this is all said and done (at least by the looks of it).

    Europe/U.S. proposed sanctions against Germany but it was all talk as no one in Europe wanted another war and if Hitler expanded a little to preserve peace it was "fine" by the "West". At the end of the day war was just too expensive. In Putin's case again we see the EU and the U.S. tired of war. They will throw empty jabs at Putin but do nothing to really help Ukraine.

    Than once Hitler grabbed a few other territories Europe became concerned. Putin will follow Ukraine with Belarus and perhaps Moldova/Estonia/Lithuania/Georgia/etc.,

    Hitler invades Poland and Europe is forced into WWII. Putin will invade Poland and start WWIII.

    Japan wants to expand and joins Germany/Axis and takes over the West Pacific and invades China. China wants to expand militarily and will invade nearby Islands/nations to expand militarily thereby joining Russia. Welcome to WWIII.

    Everything seems to fall in place. Therefore Putin = Hitler. Mind F****** blown.

    You are SOOOO 20th Century. We now live an Enlightened Age where human nature has changed completely. Megalomaniacs no longer exist.

    So why has Machiavelli been in print continuously in dozens of languages for 500 years? So human nature doesn't change?

    WOW!

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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    d2d said:

    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    So are you going to answer Mad Sons question or not?

    We have removed all our tactical nuclear weapons from our NATO allies' countries along with all our armored units. The Army is being neutered. Obubba didn't start this mess, but he certainly accelerated it, and FOR SURE isn't doing anything to correct the situation.

    Poland can't buy missile defenses from us, nor are they allowed to buy surplus M1 tanks. They buy their tanks from Germany. Obubba doesn't want to stop Putin. He's not even going to try. He STILL isn't going to National Security briefings.

    The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option.

    BUT OBUBBA KILLED BIN LADEN! So what has he done for you lately?
    Ok, so your solution is to start lobbing ICBMs at Russia starting yesterday. Got it.

    I am thankful Obama is president and not you.
    You likely didn't score very high on reading comprehension on you SATs. You should really reread my poaste. I said it wasn't an option.


    "The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option."

    You quoted someone asking if you were going to respond to my request for your response. That implies you are responding to that point. In a post where you were allegedly suggesting how Obama should have responded you said the only option is to use ICBMs. Literally you said that is the only option. You then followed that with a sentence fragment. You frequently interject non-sequiturs into your posts so there was no reason to think that was supposed to be attached to the previous thought.

    If you would liked to have communicated intelligibly you could have said, "The only means to stop Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. That is not a viable option."

    As ever, my reading comprehension is fine and your ability to use your brain isn't.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    edited March 2014
    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    So are you going to answer Mad Sons question or not?

    We have removed all our tactical nuclear weapons from our NATO allies' countries along with all our armored units. The Army is being neutered. Obubba didn't start this mess, but he certainly accelerated it, and FOR SURE isn't doing anything to correct the situation.

    Poland can't buy missile defenses from us, nor are they allowed to buy surplus M1 tanks. They buy their tanks from Germany. Obubba doesn't want to stop Putin. He's not even going to try. He STILL isn't going to National Security briefings.

    The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option.

    BUT OBUBBA KILLED BIN LADEN! So what has he done for you lately?
    Ok, so your solution is to start lobbing ICBMs at Russia starting yesterday. Got it.

    I am thankful Obama is president and not you.
    You likely didn't score very high on reading comprehension on you SATs. You should really reread my poaste. I said it wasn't an option.


    "The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option."

    You quoted someone asking if you were going to respond to my request for your response. That implies you are responding to that point. In a post where you were allegedly suggesting how Obama should have responded you said the only option is to use ICBMs. Literally you said that is the only option. You then followed that with a sentence fragment. You frequently interject non-sequiturs into your posts so there was no reason to think that was supposed to be attached to the previous thought.

    If you would liked to have communicated intelligibly you could have said, "The only means to stop Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. That is not a viable option."

    As ever, my reading comprehension is fine and your ability to use your brain isn't.
    NOGAF. Are you CollegeDouche?
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    d2d said:

    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    So are you going to answer Mad Sons question or not?

    We have removed all our tactical nuclear weapons from our NATO allies' countries along with all our armored units. The Army is being neutered. Obubba didn't start this mess, but he certainly accelerated it, and FOR SURE isn't doing anything to correct the situation.

    Poland can't buy missile defenses from us, nor are they allowed to buy surplus M1 tanks. They buy their tanks from Germany. Obubba doesn't want to stop Putin. He's not even going to try. He STILL isn't going to National Security briefings.

    The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option.

    BUT OBUBBA KILLED BIN LADEN! So what has he done for you lately?
    Ok, so your solution is to start lobbing ICBMs at Russia starting yesterday. Got it.

    I am thankful Obama is president and not you.
    You likely didn't score very high on reading comprehension on you SATs. You should really reread my poaste. I said it wasn't an option.


    "The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option."

    You quoted someone asking if you were going to respond to my request for your response. That implies you are responding to that point. In a post where you were allegedly suggesting how Obama should have responded you said the only option is to use ICBMs. Literally you said that is the only option. You then followed that with a sentence fragment. You frequently interject non-sequiturs into your posts so there was no reason to think that was supposed to be attached to the previous thought.

    If you would liked to have communicated intelligibly you could have said, "The only means to stop Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. That is not a viable option."

    As ever, my reading comprehension is fine and your ability to use your brain isn't.
    NOGAF
    Thank you for finally conceding your defeat.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    So are you going to answer Mad Sons question or not?

    We have removed all our tactical nuclear weapons from our NATO allies' countries along with all our armored units. The Army is being neutered. Obubba didn't start this mess, but he certainly accelerated it, and FOR SURE isn't doing anything to correct the situation.

    Poland can't buy missile defenses from us, nor are they allowed to buy surplus M1 tanks. They buy their tanks from Germany. Obubba doesn't want to stop Putin. He's not even going to try. He STILL isn't going to National Security briefings.

    The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option.

    BUT OBUBBA KILLED BIN LADEN! So what has he done for you lately?
    Ok, so your solution is to start lobbing ICBMs at Russia starting yesterday. Got it.

    I am thankful Obama is president and not you.
    You likely didn't score very high on reading comprehension on you SATs. You should really reread my poaste. I said it wasn't an option.


    "The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option."

    You quoted someone asking if you were going to respond to my request for your response. That implies you are responding to that point. In a post where you were allegedly suggesting how Obama should have responded you said the only option is to use ICBMs. Literally you said that is the only option. You then followed that with a sentence fragment. You frequently interject non-sequiturs into your posts so there was no reason to think that was supposed to be attached to the previous thought.

    If you would liked to have communicated intelligibly you could have said, "The only means to stop Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. That is not a viable option."

    As ever, my reading comprehension is fine and your ability to use your brain isn't.
    NOGAF
    Thank you for finally conceding your defeat.
    I concede nothing, CollegeDouche. How are things in Middlebury?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,237 Standard Supporter
    Mad_Son said:

    d2d said:

    Mad_Son said:

    For those who are unhappy with what President Obama has done to handle the Russia-Ukraine situation - what would you like to have seen him do differently thus far?

    You are kidding, right? This is the dumbest thing you've ever said. You should ask this question of Ukrainians, or Czechs, or Slavs, or Poles, or maybe even the French. I heard Putin's girlfriend wants to own Paris.

    But Obama has a great chance to get some advice. Netanyahu just landed in DC today. Might he be able to answer this question?
    Why would I be kidding? I noticed you didn't give an answer. I will assume you are implying you would tell Russia, "If you don't withdraw all of your troops from Ukraine we will nuke you". That is a fucktarded option. Of course, if you had a sane plan, you would have simply answered the question.
    D2D thinks four wars in 50 years aren't enough