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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,036 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    RealRhino said:

    Not that it matters, but here's where I stand. I'm not going to say good for the kid, do what's best for you. That kind of bullshit is partly what's wrong with society. Oh, and Gee's bullshit doesn't help, either. "first they love you, then they turn on you."

    Yeah, no shit, fucktard! That shit makes no sense. "Oh, they loved me when I was trying to help the team, but suddenly, when I'm screwing the team just to help myself, they turn on me!" That's like some coke addict girlfriend who steals from you and cheats on you with every guy who will get her some rock saying you didn't love me when I did that, so now you don't deserve me when I'm getting clean (the first time). If somebody screws you over, they DESERVE for you to turn on them. They deserve for you to kick them out of a moving car.

    You sign on the dotted line you make a goddamn commitment. There needs to be a matching of the levels. If I get dumped by a 10, I just shrug and figure it was bound to happen someday once she figured out how full of shit I am.

    Three levels, and they gotta match up. Level 1, Sam Huard. Chance to play at high D1. Level 2, Lindquist. Outside chance of starting at high D1, but might lose the job to a better recruit. Level 3, Haener. Miracle if he starts at high D1, you should know when you take the job you are going to get recruited over, so you better make your peace with being a backup on a kickass team and going to kickass bowls for the experience rather than starting for the Southern Illinois Salukis and going to weedeater bowls.

    So, if you are level 1, you can transfer if you get beat out. You should be starting somewhere good, just wasn't in the cards. No hard feelings. Level 2, you had to know this could happen, you should have picked somewhere like Louisville or Northwestern to begin with, so it's on you. You should stay. Level 3, if you go to UW or Bama or Clemson or Ohio State, you ARE going to get beat out. Take your Rose Bowl watch and Peach Bowl ring and be fucking happy you get a ticket to the games.

    The fundamental fallacy here is that there is no place for your level 3s on UW's roster.
    Meh, transition phase. As has been said by even the players on the team at this point, we have leveled up and there's a whole lotta guys currently on the roster and maybe even starting that wouldn't get scholarship offers if they were in the current recruiting class.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    The Hayner thing makes no sense, If you are Haener...

    The only reason you transfer like this is if you believe you were unfairly treated combined with a delusional sense of self worth.

    If Haener believes he is a top15 QB and was fairly beat out, than Eason will be in the NFL next year and the team would be his next.

    If Haener believes he was fairly beat out by the smallest of margins than just wait for Eason to piss Petersen off by throwing 3 INTs against Cal or tweaking his ankle in practice and take over the job for good.

    If Haener believes he was squarely beat and not good enough than STFU and enjoy the free school and Asian girls.

    This is not a younger, new QB, coming in and beating him. Haener was getting meaningful reps in practice and the coaches played him last year and planned on playing him this year... He will now go fight for playing time at some other much lower program that will have a lot less loyalty towards him than Petersen did after awkwardly quitting a week before the season started.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    RealRhino said:

    Not that it matters, but here's where I stand. I'm not going to say good for the kid, do what's best for you. That kind of bullshit is partly what's wrong with society. Oh, and Gee's bullshit doesn't help, either. "first they love you, then they turn on you."

    Yeah, no shit, fucktard! That shit makes no sense. "Oh, they loved me when I was trying to help the team, but suddenly, when I'm screwing the team just to help myself, they turn on me!" That's like some coke addict girlfriend who steals from you and cheats on you with every guy who will get her some rock saying you didn't love me when I did that, so now you don't deserve me when I'm getting clean (the first time). If somebody screws you over, they DESERVE for you to turn on them. They deserve for you to kick them out of a moving car.

    You sign on the dotted line you make a goddamn commitment. There needs to be a matching of the levels. If I get dumped by a 10, I just shrug and figure it was bound to happen someday once she figured out how full of shit I am.

    Three levels, and they gotta match up. Level 1, Sam Huard. Chance to play at high D1. Level 2, Lindquist. Outside chance of starting at high D1, but might lose the job to a better recruit. Level 3, Haener. Miracle if he starts at high D1, you should know when you take the job you are going to get recruited over, so you better make your peace with being a backup on a kickass team and going to kickass bowls for the experience rather than starting for the Southern Illinois Salukis and going to weedeater bowls.

    So, if you are level 1, you can transfer if you get beat out. You should be starting somewhere good, just wasn't in the cards. No hard feelings. Level 2, you had to know this could happen, you should have picked somewhere like Louisville or Northwestern to begin with, so it's on you. You should stay. Level 3, if you go to UW or Bama or Clemson or Ohio State, you ARE going to get beat out. Take your Rose Bowl watch and Peach Bowl ring and be fucking happy you get a ticket to the games.

    The fundamental fallacy here is that there is no place for your level 3s on UW's roster.
    Meh, transition phase. As has been said by even the players on the team at this point, we have leveled up and there's a whole lotta guys currently on the roster and maybe even starting that wouldn't get scholarship offers if they were in the current recruiting class.
    Yup, so it is natural to mutually come to terms with the ones who wouldn't get an offer leaving.
    I agree with most of your initial premise, but, its not like Haener was rotting away at the bottom of the depth chart as the 4th QB... He played last year, was getting meaningful reps in practice, was going to play this year, was one injury or major Eason mistake away from starting, and would have likely been the starting QB for a top 15 program his senior year (if not next year).

    Quitting on the team is always going to generate more scorn for a player than just being not good enough... Halfbrains always knew Tripper Johnson sucked but it wasnt his fault he was starting.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Houhusky said:

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    RealRhino said:

    Not that it matters, but here's where I stand. I'm not going to say good for the kid, do what's best for you. That kind of bullshit is partly what's wrong with society. Oh, and Gee's bullshit doesn't help, either. "first they love you, then they turn on you."

    Yeah, no shit, fucktard! That shit makes no sense. "Oh, they loved me when I was trying to help the team, but suddenly, when I'm screwing the team just to help myself, they turn on me!" That's like some coke addict girlfriend who steals from you and cheats on you with every guy who will get her some rock saying you didn't love me when I did that, so now you don't deserve me when I'm getting clean (the first time). If somebody screws you over, they DESERVE for you to turn on them. They deserve for you to kick them out of a moving car.

    You sign on the dotted line you make a goddamn commitment. There needs to be a matching of the levels. If I get dumped by a 10, I just shrug and figure it was bound to happen someday once she figured out how full of shit I am.

    Three levels, and they gotta match up. Level 1, Sam Huard. Chance to play at high D1. Level 2, Lindquist. Outside chance of starting at high D1, but might lose the job to a better recruit. Level 3, Haener. Miracle if he starts at high D1, you should know when you take the job you are going to get recruited over, so you better make your peace with being a backup on a kickass team and going to kickass bowls for the experience rather than starting for the Southern Illinois Salukis and going to weedeater bowls.

    So, if you are level 1, you can transfer if you get beat out. You should be starting somewhere good, just wasn't in the cards. No hard feelings. Level 2, you had to know this could happen, you should have picked somewhere like Louisville or Northwestern to begin with, so it's on you. You should stay. Level 3, if you go to UW or Bama or Clemson or Ohio State, you ARE going to get beat out. Take your Rose Bowl watch and Peach Bowl ring and be fucking happy you get a ticket to the games.

    The fundamental fallacy here is that there is no place for your level 3s on UW's roster.
    Meh, transition phase. As has been said by even the players on the team at this point, we have leveled up and there's a whole lotta guys currently on the roster and maybe even starting that wouldn't get scholarship offers if they were in the current recruiting class.
    Yup, so it is natural to mutually come to terms with the ones who wouldn't get an offer leaving.
    I agree with most of your initial premise, but, its not like Haener was rotting away at the bottom of the depth chart as the 4th QB... He played last year, was getting meaningful reps in practice, was going to play this year, was one injury or major Eason mistake away from starting, and would have likely been the starting QB for a top 15 program his senior year (if not next year).

    Quitting on the team is always going to generate more scorn for a player than just being not good enough... Halfbrains always knew Tripper Johnson sucked but it wasnt his fault he was starting.
    I hear you. I think I'd view this more of quitting on the team and betraying your teammates if there was a big drop off between him and Sirmon. I doubt the gap is really that big and I'd rather Sirmon be in position to get more reps (practice and live) anyways.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,709 Founders Club
    whuggy said:

    Cam Cleland, former Husky, does a radio show in Portland. He had a great take at 6:45 this morning on the Luck retirement. His message was to the fans who were all butthurt about Luck quitting and how much the players equally all hate the fans who hate on players. Great listen. How does this relate to Haener? He came back at 7:50 talking about the Haener situation and "dumbass" Husky fans who pretty much are reflected on this thread. If you have any doubt about how players feel about fans, don't. They hate us way more than we hate them. This is no one way hatefest.

    Cool

    Luck and Haener are pussies

    Hate that
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    whuggy said:

    Cam Cleland, former Husky, does a radio show in Portland. He had a great take at 6:45 this morning on the Luck retirement. His message was to the fans who were all butthurt about Luck quitting and how much the players equally all hate the fans who hate on players. Great listen. How does this relate to Haener? He came back at 7:50 talking about the Haener situation and "dumbass" Husky fans who pretty much are reflected on this thread. If you have any doubt about how players feel about fans, don't. They hate us way more than we hate them. This is no one way hatefest.

    So what your saying is, Haener has a lot of @haie in his life.
    I'm also saying if there are any delusional fans that really think college or pro football players are in this for any reason other than their own benefit then wake the fuck up. Jake Haener doesn't give a fuck what you think he should do nor does any other player. They'll smile at you and shake your hand but if you think they give a fuck about you, lol.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    whuggy said:

    Cam Cleland, former Husky, does a radio show in Portland. He had a great take at 6:45 this morning on the Luck retirement. His message was to the fans who were all butthurt about Luck quitting and how much the players equally all hate the fans who hate on players. Great listen. How does this relate to Haener? He came back at 7:50 talking about the Haener situation and "dumbass" Husky fans who pretty much are reflected on this thread. If you have any doubt about how players feel about fans, don't. They hate us way more than we hate them. This is no one way hatefest.

    Cool

    Luck and Haener are pussies

    Hate that
    I love me some race
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    Cam Cleland, former Husky, does a radio show in Portland. He had a great take at 6:45 this morning on the Luck retirement. His message was to the fans who were all butthurt about Luck quitting and how much the players equally all hate the fans who hate on players. Great listen. How does this relate to Haener? He came back at 7:50 talking about the Haener situation and "dumbass" Husky fans who pretty much are reflected on this thread. If you have any doubt about how players feel about fans, don't. They hate us way more than we hate them. This is no one way hatefest.

    So what your saying is, Haener has a lot of @haie in his life.
    I'm also saying if there are any delusional fans that really think college or pro football players are in this for any reason other than their own benefit then wake the fuck up. Jake Haener doesn't give a fuck what you think he should do nor does any other player. They'll smile at you and shake your hand but if you think they give a fuck about you, lol.
    I leave those circle jerk fan fantasies to the 12s.
  • Emoterman
    Emoterman Member Posts: 3,333
    whuggy said:

    whuggy said:

    Cam Cleland, former Husky, does a radio show in Portland. He had a great take at 6:45 this morning on the Luck retirement. His message was to the fans who were all butthurt about Luck quitting and how much the players equally all hate the fans who hate on players. Great listen. How does this relate to Haener? He came back at 7:50 talking about the Haener situation and "dumbass" Husky fans who pretty much are reflected on this thread. If you have any doubt about how players feel about fans, don't. They hate us way more than we hate them. This is no one way hatefest.

    So what your saying is, Haener has a lot of @haie in his life.
    I'm also saying if there are any delusional fans that really think college or pro football players are in this for any reason other than their own benefit then wake the fuck up. Jake Haener doesn't give a fuck what you think he should do nor does any other player. They'll smile at you and shake your hand but if you think they give a fuck about you, lol.
    Seems to me you just got done saying "how much the players equally all hate the fans who hate on players" and "They hate us way more than we hate them."

    Sounds like they care.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    Dusty and Cam- Hour 1-33:30-42:30
    Dusty and Cam- Hour 2-37:15-39:40

    Worth a listen.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    Domicillo said:
    Wow Haener is trying to make it to China with this hole.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,664 Founders Club
    whuggy said:

    Dusty and Cam- Hour 1-33:30-42:30
    Dusty and Cam- Hour 2-37:15-39:40

    Worth a listen.

    Cam is a quook apologist and backs his Pac.

    Fuck Dusty.

    Fuck their show.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    For anyone interested in seeing Jake Haener get rag dolled by Tuli Letuli a few tims
    https://www.hudl.com/video/3/5572531/581e122290f99307888b25b2
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    Haener’s free to do what is best for him. Just don’t expect big TYFYS type stuff from us fans.

    I’ll be pretty fucking pissed he’s gone if/when Sirmon comes in and costs us a game.

    You are assuming that Haener would not costs "us" the game. Which he would have as we have already seen. Might as well toss the younger, higher touted guy in to the fire if things come to that. Haener staying would not have mitigated the impact of Eason sucking or getting hurt any more than giving Sirmon his shot, IMO.
    Maybe. If Haener is actually better, which the coaches obviously thought it was, then it was a loss.

    All the highly touted, strong arm shit doesn’t mean anything if Sirmon can’t read defenses and get the ball out on time with accuracy.
    So which is it? Do we hate him and wished he stayed or hate him and wished he'd go? Aren't we supposed to give the reps to the higher ceiling talent? I thought that was the theme here.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    haie said:

    whuggy said:

    Dusty and Cam- Hour 1-33:30-42:30
    Dusty and Cam- Hour 2-37:15-39:40

    Worth a listen.

    Cam is a quook apologist and backs his Pac.

    Fuck Dusty.

    Fuck their show.
    Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the opinion of the guy who played college and pro.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,664 Founders Club
    whuggy said:

    haie said:

    whuggy said:

    Dusty and Cam- Hour 1-33:30-42:30
    Dusty and Cam- Hour 2-37:15-39:40

    Worth a listen.

    Cam is a quook apologist and backs his Pac.

    Fuck Dusty.

    Fuck their show.
    Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the opinion of the guy who played college and pro.
    lol nothing he says on that show is worth a goddamn. Oh big surprise he wants the pros to get more benefits and supports athletes dipping out of programs. Really insightful stuff you could only get from someone that played college and pro.
  • whuggy
    whuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    edited August 2019
    haie said:

    whuggy said:

    haie said:

    whuggy said:

    Dusty and Cam- Hour 1-33:30-42:30
    Dusty and Cam- Hour 2-37:15-39:40

    Worth a listen.

    Cam is a quook apologist and backs his Pac.

    Fuck Dusty.

    Fuck their show.
    Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the opinion of the guy who played college and pro.
    lol nothing he says on that show is worth a goddamn. Oh big surprise he wants the pros to get more benefits and supports athletes dipping out of programs. Really insightful stuff you could only get from someone that played college and pro.
    I don't listen to them regularly but I got more insight from Cleeland in 10 minutes than you in your 6 years and 7000 posts. Low bar for him to hurdle. Actually he didn't even have to jump. Oh. Your post makes it sound like you listen? P.S. Donate you cheap fuck.
    At least I made it to the frugal category.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,661
    haie said:

    whuggy said:

    haie said:

    whuggy said:

    Dusty and Cam- Hour 1-33:30-42:30
    Dusty and Cam- Hour 2-37:15-39:40

    Worth a listen.

    Cam is a quook apologist and backs his Pac.

    Fuck Dusty.

    Fuck their show.
    Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the opinion of the guy who played college and pro.
    lol nothing he says on that show is worth a goddamn. Oh big surprise he wants the pros to get more benefits and supports athletes dipping out of programs. Really insightful stuff you could only get from someone that played college and pro.
    Lot of haie in your life
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,664 Founders Club
    whuggy said:

    haie said:

    whuggy said:

    haie said:

    whuggy said:

    Dusty and Cam- Hour 1-33:30-42:30
    Dusty and Cam- Hour 2-37:15-39:40

    Worth a listen.

    Cam is a quook apologist and backs his Pac.

    Fuck Dusty.

    Fuck their show.
    Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the opinion of the guy who played college and pro.
    lol nothing he says on that show is worth a goddamn. Oh big surprise he wants the pros to get more benefits and supports athletes dipping out of programs. Really insightful stuff you could only get from someone that played college and pro.
    I don't listen to them regularly but I got more insight from Cleeland in 10 minutes than you in your 6 years and 7000 posts. Low bar for him to hurdle. Actually he didn't even have to jump. Oh. Your post makes it sound like you listen? P.S. Donate you cheap fuck.
    At least I made it to the frugal category.
    Yeah blue hairs that to love listen to Cleeland suck off Oregon and #BackThePac in every segment he can aren't really my target readership.