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Mike_Honcho
Mike_Honcho Member Posts: 214
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...no KP.

The NFL is smart. Nice QB development Sark
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  • Mike_Honcho
    Mike_Honcho Member Posts: 214
    Why? He's slow, stupid and black
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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,112
    W, JW
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  • Mike_Honcho
    Mike_Honcho Member Posts: 214
    KP was good as a sophomore, but his play regressed consistently from there.
    He is not an NFL QB. He never could be competitive throughout an entire 12 game NCAA season, why would he all of the sudden bring his A game to 16 regular game?
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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,112
    I don't think he can start, but I think he could be a back up. There's a lot of shitty QBs that have jobs.
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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    He smokes too much dope. Axe Kim.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    The list of QBs that got invited is a fucking dreckfest:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/21/5432976/nfl-scouting-combine-quarterback-measurements
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  • Mike_Honcho
    Mike_Honcho Member Posts: 214
    And KP isn't amongst them. Smart choice
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  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited February 2014
    Rhetorical Q - do you think Price not being invited to the combine is more of a function of his college performance and future potential as an NFL QB or is it a function of reports NFL personnel received from college coaches? **COUGH**Sark**COUGH**
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  • SweatpantsGeneral
    SweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,154 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    The list of QBs that got invited is a fucking dreckfest:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/21/5432976/nfl-scouting-combine-quarterback-measurements

    That list is Hugh Millen FS

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  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    Could KP's absence be proof of Hugh Millen's influence on NFL scouts? Seriously, I am surprised that KP wasn't invited and I wonder about his health. Recall that KP had to leave the bowl game late after taking a couple cheap shots from the Mormons...... and didn't return.

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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    NFL personnel experts picked Gabbert, Ponder, and Lockner in the top 10 overall.

    They're morons.

    Price could be a solid backup in the NFL. I'd rather have him on my roster than the three guys listed above.

    Locker was a Top 10 rated passer and the Titans were on a roll before Fitzpatrick took over to save Mike Munchak's job.
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  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    @Mike_Honcho

    You should lurk around a bit and get a feel for the boards. If you have any questions feel free to shoot me a PM because I have this place dialed in.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    IrishDawg22 said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    NFL personnel experts picked Gabbert, Ponder, and Lockner in the top 10 overall.

    They're morons.

    Price could be a solid backup in the NFL. I'd rather have him on my roster than the three guys listed above.

    Locker was a Top 10 rated passer and the Titans were on a roll before Fitzpatrick took over to save Mike Munchak's job.
    Locker's career is definitely in LIFPO mode. But if he gets hurt again, the career is fucking over
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  • Dick_B
    Dick_B Member Posts: 1,301
    edited February 2014
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    IrishDawg22 said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    NFL personnel experts picked Gabbert, Ponder, and Lockner in the top 10 overall.

    They're morons.

    Price could be a solid backup in the NFL. I'd rather have him on my roster than the three guys listed above.

    Locker was a Top 10 rated passer and the Titans were on a roll before Fitzpatrick took over to save Mike Munchak's job.
    Locker's career is definitely in LIFPO mode. But if when he gets hurt again, the career is fucking over

    fixed
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    IrishDawg22 said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    NFL personnel experts picked Gabbert, Ponder, and Lockner in the top 10 overall.

    They're morons.

    Price could be a solid backup in the NFL. I'd rather have him on my roster than the three guys listed above.

    Locker was a Top 10 rated passer and the Titans were on a roll before Fitzpatrick took over to save Mike Munchak's job.
    He had an 86.7 QB rating last year, propped up by a fantastic game against the Jets:
    http://www.nfl.com/player/jakelocker/2495194/gamelogs

    He's not durable enough to last in the NFL, which isn't a surprise to people who have the NFL dialed in.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Price doesn't have a NFL arm, holds onto the ball too long, and can't anticipate WRs coming open ...

    Other than that, he's a good QB.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    Price doesn't have a NFL arm, holds onto the ball too long, and can't anticipate WRs coming open ...

    Other than that, he's a good QB.

    Maybe.
    Unknown. Usually he had to throw it too early because of shit protection.
    Bullshit.


    Thanks for your opinion though, NFL QB Superiority Guy.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    At what point did you watch Keith Price throw a ball and go "wow, he's got a NFL arm?"

    At what point did you watch Keith Price anticipate a WR coming open on a crossing route and throwing to a spot before the WR came open?

    Did you ever consider that perhaps the reason Sark fell so in love with the WR screen game was because that took advantage of what Price did well (throw an accurate ball) and eliminate the need for him to do the things he doesn't do well?
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    At what point did you watch Keith Price throw a ball and go "wow, he's got a NFL arm?"

    At what point did you watch Keith Price anticipate a WR coming open on a crossing route and throwing to a spot before the WR came open?

    Did you ever consider that perhaps the reason Sark fell so in love with the WR screen game was because that took advantage of what Price did well (throw an accurate ball) and eliminate the need for him to do the things he doesn't do well?

    I usually don't give a shit about "NFL arm" when I watch college games.

    My guess is that Price's arm is comparable to Russell Wilson's arm.

    Jack Lockner has an "NFL arm" and he has no business being a starting QB in the NFL.

    Accuracy >>>>> arm strength
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    I can't believe some of you actually think Price is an NFL QB. Price is as overrated by some of you here as Locker was on doogman. He's a decent college QB.

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Tequilla said:

    At what point did you watch Keith Price throw a ball and go "wow, he's got a NFL arm?"

    At what point did you watch Keith Price anticipate a WR coming open on a crossing route and throwing to a spot before the WR came open?

    Did you ever consider that perhaps the reason Sark fell so in love with the WR screen game was because that took advantage of what Price did well (throw an accurate ball) and eliminate the need for him to do the things he doesn't do well?

    I usually don't give a shit about "NFL arm" when I watch college games.

    My guess is that Price's arm is comparable to Russell Wilson's arm.

    Jack Lockner has an "NFL arm" and he has no business being a starting QB in the NFL.

    Accuracy >>>>> arm strength
    I agree about accuracy >>> arm strength, but Russell Wilson has a way stronger arm than Price and throws a great deep ball.

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I can't believe some of you actually think Price is an NFL QB. Price is as overrated by some of you here as Locker was on doogman. He's a decent college QB.

    I think he's a backup, not a starter.

    I'd take him over at least half the guys identified in this article:
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217112/article/ranking-the-nfls-backup-quarterbacks
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  • fivehundredmileDAWG
    fivehundredmileDAWG Member Posts: 1,212
    Mike_Honcho said:

    KP was good as a sophomore, but his play regressed consistently from there.
    He is not an NFL QB. He never could be competitive throughout an entire 12 game NCAA season, why would he all of the sudden bring his A game to 16 regular game?

    When a player regresses , or stagnates it is usually a function of coaching. His lack of durability and measureables are a large part of the reason he is not at the combine ..
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited February 2014
    RoadDawg55 said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Tequilla said:

    At what point did you watch Keith Price throw a ball and go "wow, he's got a NFL arm?"

    At what point did you watch Keith Price anticipate a WR coming open on a crossing route and throwing to a spot before the WR came open?

    Did you ever consider that perhaps the reason Sark fell so in love with the WR screen game was because that took advantage of what Price did well (throw an accurate ball) and eliminate the need for him to do the things he doesn't do well?

    I usually don't give a shit about "NFL arm" when I watch college games.

    My guess is that Price's arm is comparable to Russell Wilson's arm.

    Jack Lockner has an "NFL arm" and he has no business being a starting QB in the NFL.

    Accuracy >>>>> arm strength
    I agree about accuracy >>> arm strength, but Russell Wilson has a way stronger arm than Price and throws a great deep ball.

    I think Price could be a decent backup for a few years, but his arm strength doesn't compare to Wilson's.

    My concern is that Price was constantly hurt at UW. He doesn't have the elusiveness or strength that Wilson does to survive as a smaller QB. He's going to get knocked out early.
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  • Dawgfan406
    Dawgfan406 Member Posts: 192
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I can't believe some of you actually think Price is an NFL QB. Price is as overrated by some of you here as Locker was on doogman. He's a decent college QB.

    I think he's a backup, not a starter.

    I'd take him over at least half the guys identified in this article:
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217112/article/ranking-the-nfls-backup-quarterbacks
    LOL part of that link:

    "Ugliness

    29. Derek Anderson, Carolina Panthers
    30. Charlie Whitehurst, San Diego Chargers
    31. Graham Harrell, Green Bay Packers
    Anderson's 2007 Pro Bowl campaign was mere illusion. He has worked himself out of two starting jobs and looms as one of the league's shakiest reserves. Whitehurst has floated from San Diego to Seattle, and back again. Nice for a Hobbit, not so much for Charlie. Harrell was an epic train wreck last preseason. If he sees the field, it only will mean sadness in Green Bay."
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I can't believe some of you actually think Price is an NFL QB. Price is as overrated by some of you here as Locker was on doogman. He's a decent college QB.

    He will get to a training camp either as a really low draft pick or FA. I see him in an arena playing half length fball or in a cold, northern locale like Montréal or Edmonton within a couple years...or doing something else.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    edited February 2014
    QB's that are Price's size have a hard enough time making it in the league. A guy his size, with limited mobility, and terrible pocket presence and feel (certainly could improve with coaching, but I think part of it is natural) have even less of a chance. If he ran a 4.5 it would be different, but he doesn't. Almost every time he gets touched he goes down.

    Price will get a chance at a camp, but the smart money is on him never making an NFL roster. You never know though. If Matt McGloin and Jeff Tuel can make teams, then Price could in the right situation. He's pretty far down the totem pole for rookie QB's though. Next year, there will be a whole new batch. It won't be easy.
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