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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,286

    lawsandl said:

    Oregon has had 3 OC in three seasons. Also, even with 30 blue choppers, there’s been gaping holes in the roster. Everyone has their qualms about the offense but realistically the 2nd year should look a lot less disjointed.

    So why isn't it the same expectation with the rest of the conference teams that recently experienced coaching changes you moron? You think Oregon will get better but those other teams will stay mediocre. Quook logic.
    The same reason Oregon doesn't get a moral victory for Stanford and Utah gets one for Northwestern.
    Fuck are you talking about? I never said anything about Oregon and moral victories. You just pulled that out of your ass. You're just being a contrarian little bitch at this point fighting a losing argument in favor of Oregon when you're supposedly a UW fan. Fuck off.
    Pulled the Ute moral victory over NW out of your ass. Figured you wouldn't give MC a moral victory over Stanford, even though it was a better moral victory.

    Calling out your selective rationalizations is not contrarian. I am a scholar and a gentleman and I'm duty bound to so.

    Mario can't coach because he went 9-4.

    Herm can coach because he went 7-6.

    Nosepicker can coach because defense.

    All three in their first years with their programs. Mario beat them both and won his bowl game. What happened to the other guys?
    Got you now Cuog!



    Sark's the nosepicker. Wilcox is the creepy tongue action. You've been exposed!
    I thought I saw one of Wilcox picking his nose too.
    Unless YOU have proof in HAND...it’s speculation for YOU. ‘Those who know’....meaning YOU are not a ‘THOSE’. I didn’t create the English language but ‘speculation’ is pretty cut and dry. Unless you are an eye witness, YOU are speculating. Word of mouth is not proof.
    Ok!!!!!!!
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    Both of you are total retards. Justin Herbert was in line to potentially be the #1 overall draft pick this last draft. Manny Wilkins went undrafted. Again, just being contrarian bitches and ignoring facts. If you walk into a situation with a top-10 draft pick at QB, it makes a WORLD of difference and a much easier rebuild!

    Oregon had two running backs that were frosh and didn’t deserve to start. Every wide receiver was a turd outside Mitchell. Harry and Enos were elite. Wilkins was a productive college qb.

    I am not saying ASU was more talented. Edwards had a lot to work with. He has a tougher job this year than last.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,286
    lawsandl said:

    Both of you are total retards. Justin Herbert was in line to potentially be the #1 overall draft pick this last draft. Manny Wilkins went undrafted. Again, just being contrarian bitches and ignoring facts. If you walk into a situation with a top-10 draft pick at QB, it makes a WORLD of difference and a much easier rebuild!

    Oregon had two running backs that were frosh and didn’t deserve to start. Every wide receiver was a turd outside Mitchell. Harry and Enos were elite. Wilkins was a productive college qb.

    I am not saying ASU was more talented. Edwards had a lot to work with. He has a tougher job this year than last.
    winning is winning.

    7-6 is 7-6.

    9-4 > 7-6.

    'nuff said on that.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    Both of you are total retards. Justin Herbert was in line to potentially be the #1 overall draft pick this last draft. Manny Wilkins went undrafted. Again, just being contrarian bitches and ignoring facts. If you walk into a situation with a top-10 draft pick at QB, it makes a WORLD of difference and a much easier rebuild!

    So it was the Fresno State game that won you over then? Great.

    But, here, you are simply wrong.

    As for QB, Minshew was better last year than Herbert, and nobody has ever labeled him first round talent. Get bent with this shit. Herbert was average at best. Just because a kid can make an NFL dime throw once in 8 tries doesn't make him a great QB. Herbert is NOT a great QB. He's just a physically gifted kid. There's a difference. Vinny Testatarde was a physically gifted freak of an athlete and found ways to lose games that Steve Walsh, who had a noodle for an arm, would win with his eyes closed.

    You should teach an selective reasoning 101 class. You're good.
    NFL scouts said Herbert would have been in consideration for the #1 overall draft pick had he come out last draft. That's a fact. Point is, he's a far superior talent for a new head coach to work with than Manny Wilkins was.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    lawsandl said:

    Both of you are total retards. Justin Herbert was in line to potentially be the #1 overall draft pick this last draft. Manny Wilkins went undrafted. Again, just being contrarian bitches and ignoring facts. If you walk into a situation with a top-10 draft pick at QB, it makes a WORLD of difference and a much easier rebuild!

    Oregon had two running backs that were frosh and didn’t deserve to start. Every wide receiver was a turd outside Mitchell. Harry and Enos were elite. Wilkins was a productive college qb.

    I am not saying ASU was more talented. Edwards had a lot to work with. He has a tougher job this year than last.
    And Cristobal had a much better O-line with four, three-year starters on it to work with. Herm was more impressive last season.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,286
    edited August 2019

    lawsandl said:

    Both of you are total retards. Justin Herbert was in line to potentially be the #1 overall draft pick this last draft. Manny Wilkins went undrafted. Again, just being contrarian bitches and ignoring facts. If you walk into a situation with a top-10 draft pick at QB, it makes a WORLD of difference and a much easier rebuild!

    Oregon had two running backs that were frosh and didn’t deserve to start. Every wide receiver was a turd outside Mitchell. Harry and Enos were elite. Wilkins was a productive college qb.

    I am not saying ASU was more talented. Edwards had a lot to work with. He has a tougher job this year than last.
    And Cristobal had a much better O-line with four, three-year starters on it to work with. Herm was more impressive last season.
    Nope. 7-6 is 7-6. Just like winning is winning, right? Right.

    Oregon went through their 3rd HC in 4 years. One B+ receiver. Two running backs nobody's ever heard of. No TEs. Not to mention a horrible defense. Their QB, who you like so much, has yet to play a complete game and gives you one good pass every 8 attempts.

    Whatever differences in overall team talent are imperceptible. And, he lost to Fresno State, a team that surely has more talent than ASU, right? Right.

    No, he wasn't. Mario beat him, and lost two fewer games, and since you're into moral victories, he constructively lost 3 fewer games.

    Mario > Edwards in 2018.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,286

    Both of you are total retards. Justin Herbert was in line to potentially be the #1 overall draft pick this last draft. Manny Wilkins went undrafted. Again, just being contrarian bitches and ignoring facts. If you walk into a situation with a top-10 draft pick at QB, it makes a WORLD of difference and a much easier rebuild!

    So it was the Fresno State game that won you over then? Great.

    But, here, you are simply wrong.

    As for QB, Minshew was better last year than Herbert, and nobody has ever labeled him first round talent. Get bent with this shit. Herbert was average at best. Just because a kid can make an NFL dime throw once in 8 tries doesn't make him a great QB. Herbert is NOT a great QB. He's just a physically gifted kid. There's a difference. Vinny Testatarde was a physically gifted freak of an athlete and found ways to lose games that Steve Walsh, who had a noodle for an arm, would win with his eyes closed.

    You should teach an selective reasoning 101 class. You're good.
    NFL scouts said Herbert would have been in consideration for the #1 overall draft pick had he come out last draft. That's a fact. Point is, he's a far superior talent for a new head coach to work with than Manny Wilkins was.
    If this is your overall argument, you should just pack it in. It's a loser.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited August 2019
    I was pleasantly surprised by Edwards because it was such a gamble and he’s weird. Edwards exceeded my expectations because they were so low. The coaching selection had a chance to bomb.

    I hope he does well. We need the conference perception to be better. It will be interesting to see how he does going forward. He has to develop a qb and replace Harry. This year will be a test as everyone will key Enos.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited August 2019

    lawsandl said:

    Both of you are total retards. Justin Herbert was in line to potentially be the #1 overall draft pick this last draft. Manny Wilkins went undrafted. Again, just being contrarian bitches and ignoring facts. If you walk into a situation with a top-10 draft pick at QB, it makes a WORLD of difference and a much easier rebuild!

    Oregon had two running backs that were frosh and didn’t deserve to start. Every wide receiver was a turd outside Mitchell. Harry and Enos were elite. Wilkins was a productive college qb.

    I am not saying ASU was more talented. Edwards had a lot to work with. He has a tougher job this year than last.
    And Cristobal had a much better O-line with four, three-year starters on it to work with. Herm was more impressive last season.
    Nope. 7-6 is 7-6. Just like winning is winning, right? Right.

    Oregon went through their 3rd HC in 4 years. One B+ receiver. Two running backs nobody's ever heard of. No TEs. Not to mention a horrible defense. Their QB, who you like so much, has yet to play a complete game and gives you one good pass every 8 attempts.

    Whatever differences in overall team talent are imperceptible. And, he lost to Fresno State, a team that surely has more talent than ASU, right? Right.

    No, he wasn't. Mario beat him, and lost two fewer games, and since you're into moral victories, he constructively lost 3 fewer games.

    Mario > Edwards in 2018.
    Herm was way more impressive last season than Cristobal. It's not even close. Oregon's games against WSU and Arizona were unacceptable performances given Oregon's talent compared to those programs. Fresno State is coached by Jeff Tedford, another really good coach who's better than Cristobal. You don't get to ignore the talent gap between the two programs and just say Mario won more games. That's retarded. Mario went 5-4 in Pac-12 play, same as Herm at ASU, but Cristobal has more talent to work with and higher expectations than Herm in his first season.