Washington Huskies Fall Camp 2019 Recap Open Thread
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Fuck off and take it to the quook boared.lawsandl said:
This is my last post on this. I am not here to derail the thread. You’re being obtuse with the Holland comments. He played up to the hype. Also, you can’t determine shit about him from his film. There is all kinds of examples where kids don’t show a trait in high school that’s there when they show up. These are 3 to 7 minute clips hand selected by the recruit. Hill is working himself up the depth chart and making plays. At this point, which is way early, he is not a bust and most likely a future starter and potentially more.StrongArmCobra said:
I didn't see Holland do much. Taylor Rapp was defensive Freshman of the year. He was deserving of early hype, not any of Oregon's Freshman DB's. And Hill is not an instinctual play maker on the ball like Williams is. He showed none of that in high school. Like I said, your dumb ass coaches have hyped up guys before who turned out to be JAGs. They can't be trusted this time either. There's a difference between being good and being the tallest midget. Jimmy Lake is the best in the business so when a true Freshman starts for us in the secondary we can feel pretty confident he's going to be really good. You can't.lawsandl said:
How did Holland underperform? Nobody thought any of those dbs would be 1st team all conference. That being said, the kids that look like they see the field the most in the 2019 class are Hill and Pittman. Does that detract from Williams? No. Does that lessen the blow of losing him? Yes.StrongArmCobra said:
We sure will. Every year you have a DB your dumbass coaches over hype as a star Freshman who fails to live up to the hype. First it was Graham. Then it was Holland. Now it's Hill. Can Oregon at least put one DB on the 1st team All-Conference team before hyping up their mediocre DB's?lawsandl said:
We’ll see.StrongArmCobra said:
Who? Oh yeah the kid with the worst high school film for a safety I've ever seen that Georgia didn't want.lawsandl said:
I hate myself for letting this suck me in. Cam Williams replacement is Jamal Hill.StrongArmCobra said:
Ooooohhh suck it so hard Oregon.DoogCourics said:Lake:
“I guess in a best case scenario you’d always love to do that (redshirt freshman), but sometimes a freshman is the best player and he’s going to play. Some guys come in here wired the right way way and they’re already physically ready to go. Like a Taylor Rapp, and I’m glad we played Taylor Rapp because we got 3 years out of him.”
“He has picked up where he left off in spring. He knows the defense and knows the calls.”
On if he is surprised on Cam’s quick ascension:
“No. He came to our Redland’s camp and it was a magical 2 hours. Will Harris taught him some things and techniques, and 5 minutes later he’s doing it exactly like it was taught.”
This is incredible. During the recruiting process Lake raves about Cam Williams, and Cam says he has been told he’s coming in to take Rapp’s role. And by the end of spring the coaches can’t stop raving about him, and by the 3rd fall practice he is locked in as a starting safety and has essentially pushed McKinney aside. Looks like Lake only expects 3 years out of him if things go right.
"Williams isn't a big loss because we got Criddell and he's better than him anyways"
I am sure Cam is a stud. It’s actually a good sign about evaluation for the ducks. They identified Cam well before anyone. -
Got an email that says the season ticket holder exclusive scrimmage is going to be on Saturday the 17th.
Since that’s a week after the media loses access to practices, I’ll attend and do my best Caple/Vorel impression for the bored -
#PremiumContentNEsnake12 said:Got an email that says the season ticket holder exclusive scrimmage is going to be on Saturday the 17th.
Since that’s a week after the media loses access to practices, I’ll attend and do my best Caple/Vorel impression for the bored -
TYFYSNEsnake12 said:Got an email that says the season ticket holder exclusive scrimmage is going to be on Saturday the 17th.
Since that’s a week after the media loses access to practices, I’ll attend and do my best Caple/Vorel impression for the bored -
"It comes back to execution, which falls back on me," Hamdan said this weekend after UW's second day of fall camp. "It was a good, long, tough off-season. We went to work and feel a lot better about where we're at right now."
Hamdan mentioned simplification of the offense, as well as running the same concepts at a higher rate and spotlighting receivers more down the field as things that helped them get better this past spring.
"We've simplified it, we're executing at a much higher rate from the passing game, said Hamdan. And that was true last April, as receivers like Terrell Bynum emerged as threats down the field.
"I think we know what we are going to hang our hat on with the ability to run the ball. But having a passing game and having guys make plays with the ball in the air is critical. I think a lot of times when you give them a chance, some of the guys you maybe would not expect to be great with the ball in the air end up being a lot better.”
"He's a cerebral kid when he plays," Hamdan said of Eason. "For him, working on his quick-twitch muscles, getting the ball out on time, will be critical.
"There's not a lot of times in the game of football where you're throwing the ball more than 48 yards down the field. I think it can help you more when you're a little bit late. You can sneak a ball in there. But if you're playing with great timing and rhythm, you see that in the NFL. Some of those guys aren't necessarily the biggest arms.
"If you look at the last couple of guys who have won the Heisman Trophy, they've been 6-foot, sub-6-foot guys. It comes down to feel. Can you process information fast, can you see it, can you play the game?” -
Day 4 from Vorel:
- Eason took the first snaps with the starters and completed a series of short passes, but failed to consistently move the offense.
- Haener started hot before completing just 1 of 3 passes in his second series. The final incompletion could have been costly; after being pressured in the pocket, Haener flipped a lofting pass over the head of a leaping Andre Baccellia. Myles Bryant was headed full speed for Baccellia, and in a contact situation he might have knocked the senior wide receiver out of the Dempsey entirely and directly into Lake Washington.
- Dylan Morris was the most impressive QB. The early enrollee was accurate both inside and out of the pocket; most notably, he found fellow freshman Puka Nacua down the sideline for a roughly 30-yard gain. Nacua dived to haul in the pass and dragged his feet in bounds in front of defensive back Devin Bush.
- Jacob Sirmon’s performance was inconsistent, and he had the only turnover.
- Running backs Salvon Ahmed and Sean McGrew each received starting reps.
- Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia lined up alongside tight ends Hunter Bryant and Cade Otton with the starters. Wide receivers Quinten Pounds and Ty Jones were the first to work in behind them.
- 1st string OL stayed the same. As they had through the first three practices, senior Henry Roberts and redshirt freshman Matteo Mele alternated between center and left tackle with the second team. They were accompanied by left guard M.J. Ale, right guard Victor Curne and right tackle Henry Bainivalu.
- 1st string DL were John Clark and redshirt freshman Tuli Letuligasenoa, followed by junior Levi Onwuzurike and senior Benning Potoa’e.
- The starting ILB were seniors Brandon Wellington and *redacted*, followed by redshirt freshmen Jackson Sirmon and M.J. Tafisi. The first-team OLB were junior Ryan Bowman and sophomore Joe Tryon.
- The starting secondary has been a constant thus far in fall camp: cornerbacks Keith Taylor and Kyler Gordon, nickelback Elijah Molden and safeties Myles Bryant and Cameron Williams.
- Freshman outside linebacker Laiatu Latu continues to impress. The mammoth 6-4, 275-pound pass-rusher notched the Huskies’ only sack of the day, collapsing the pocket to tag Eason and end the junior quarterback’s final scrimmage series.
- Bad snaps continue to be a problem early in camp. Henry Roberts and Will Pliska added two more on Monday.
- After alternating between defensive line and outside linebacker throughout the spring, it appears that Benning Potoa’e — who now registers at 6-3 and 290 pounds — has found a home on the line. He certainly appears to have added the necessary strength to stick at the position.
- Jacob Kizer (back), sophomore offensive lineman Cole Norgaard (ankle) and freshman offensive lineman Troy Fautanu (foot) continue to be out, but all three attended practice.
- Freshman safety Asa Turner made a nice play on Monday, streaking to the sideline to break up a long pass from Dylan Morris intended for wide receiver Fatu Sua-Godinet. -
Not sure if it’s good or bad that Morris has been touted as “the best QB” at 2 of the 4 practices so far
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Lol I told you guys Morris was fucking good.
Nobody wanted to believe it. Everybody hated Morris as a recruit and some wanted Cale Millen instead of him.
If this is a 100% open QB competition then by week 1 Eason should be the starter and Morris should be the back up.
Morris is Jake Fromm 2.0 -
Give the reps to Eason and Morris and warm up the Portal
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Lawrence Taylor, Barry sanders, and Jacob Fromm all possibly on the same team next year. Snarl!!StrongArmCobra said:Lol I told you guys Morris was fucking good.
Nobody wanted to believe it. Everybody hated Morris as a recruit and some wanted Cale Millen instead of him.
If this is a 100% open QB competition then by week 1 Eason should be the starter and Morris should be the back up.
Morris is Jake Fromm 2.0
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And Joe Tryon reminds me of Jadeveon Clowney too.AtomicDawg said:
Lawrence Taylor, Barry sanders, and Jacob Fromm all possibly on the same team next year. Snarl!!StrongArmCobra said:Lol I told you guys Morris was fucking good.
Nobody wanted to believe it. Everybody hated Morris as a recruit and some wanted Cale Millen instead of him.
If this is a 100% open QB competition then by week 1 Eason should be the starter and Morris should be the back up.
Morris is Jake Fromm 2.0 -
Never dieRaceBannon said:Give the reps to Eason and Morris and warm up the Portal
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JJ watt 2.0StrongArmCobra said:
And Joe Tryon reminds me of Jadeveon Clowney too.AtomicDawg said:
Lawrence Taylor, Barry sanders, and Jacob Fromm all possibly on the same team next year. Snarl!!StrongArmCobra said:Lol I told you guys Morris was fucking good.
Nobody wanted to believe it. Everybody hated Morris as a recruit and some wanted Cale Millen instead of him.
If this is a 100% open QB competition then by week 1 Eason should be the starter and Morris should be the back up.
Morris is Jake Fromm 2.0 -
FTFYAtomicDawg said:
Lawrence Taylor, Barry sanders 2.0, and Jacob Fromm all possibly on the same team next year. Snarl!!StrongArmCobra said:Lol I told you guys Morris was fucking good.
Nobody wanted to believe it. Everybody hated Morris as a recruit and some wanted Cale Millen instead of him.
If this is a 100% open QB competition then by week 1 Eason should be the starter and Morris should be the back up.
Morris is Jake Fromm 2.0 -
TYFYRDoogCourics said:Day 4 from Vorel:
- Eason took the first snaps with the starters and completed a series of short passes, but failed to consistently move the offense.
- Haener started hot before completing just 1 of 3 passes in his second series. The final incompletion could have been costly; after being pressured in the pocket, Haener flipped a lofting pass over the head of a leaping Andre Baccellia. Myles Bryant was headed full speed for Baccellia, and in a contact situation he might have knocked the senior wide receiver out of the Dempsey entirely and directly into Lake Washington.
- Dylan Morris was the most impressive QB. The early enrollee was accurate both inside and out of the pocket; most notably, he found fellow freshman Puka Nacua down the sideline for a roughly 30-yard gain. Nacua dived to haul in the pass and dragged his feet in bounds in front of defensive back Devin Bush.
- Jacob Sirmon’s performance was inconsistent, and he had the only turnover.
- Running backs Salvon Ahmed and Sean McGrew each received starting reps.
- Aaron Fuller and Andre Baccellia lined up alongside tight ends Hunter Bryant and Cade Otton with the starters. Wide receivers Quinten Pounds and Ty Jones were the first to work in behind them.
- 1st string OL stayed the same. As they had through the first three practices, senior Henry Roberts and redshirt freshman Matteo Mele alternated between center and left tackle with the second team. They were accompanied by left guard M.J. Ale, right guard Victor Curne and right tackle Henry Bainivalu.
- 1st string DL were John Clark and redshirt freshman Tuli Letuligasenoa, followed by junior Levi Onwuzurike and senior Benning Potoa’e.
- The starting ILB were seniors Brandon Wellington and *redacted*, followed by redshirt freshmen Jackson Sirmon and M.J. Tafisi. The first-team OLB were junior Ryan Bowman and sophomore Joe Tryon.
- The starting secondary has been a constant thus far in fall camp: cornerbacks Keith Taylor and Kyler Gordon, nickelback Elijah Molden and safeties Myles Bryant and Cameron Williams.
- Freshman outside linebacker Laiatu Latu continues to impress. The mammoth 6-4, 275-pound pass-rusher notched the Huskies’ only sack of the day, collapsing the pocket to tag Eason and end the junior quarterback’s final scrimmage series.
- Bad snaps continue to be a problem early in camp. Henry Roberts and Will Pliska added two more on Monday.
- After alternating between defensive line and outside linebacker throughout the spring, it appears that Benning Potoa’e — who now registers at 6-3 and 290 pounds — has found a home on the line. He certainly appears to have added the necessary strength to stick at the position.
- Jacob Kizer (back), sophomore offensive lineman Cole Norgaard (ankle) and freshman offensive lineman Troy Fautanu (foot) continue to be out, but all three attended practice.
- Freshman safety Asa Turner made a nice play on Monday, streaking to the sideline to break up a long pass from Dylan Morris intended for wide receiver Fatu Sua-Godinet. -
Pretty sure I beat you to the Morris hype, but I don't really care enough to start a struggle session so you can have this one.StrongArmCobra said:Lol I told you guys Morris was fucking good.
Nobody wanted to believe it. Everybody hated Morris as a recruit and some wanted Cale Millen instead of him.
If this is a 100% open QB competition then by week 1 Eason should be the starter and Morris should be the back up.
Morris is Jake Fromm 2.0 -
You always do this. Plagiarize my shit without realizing it and thinking you were first.NorwegianHusky said:
Pretty sure I beat you to the Morris hype, but I don't really care enough to start a struggle session so you can have this one.StrongArmCobra said:Lol I told you guys Morris was fucking good.
Nobody wanted to believe it. Everybody hated Morris as a recruit and some wanted Cale Millen instead of him.
If this is a 100% open QB competition then by week 1 Eason should be the starter and Morris should be the back up.
Morris is Jake Fromm 2.0 -
I was getting a ton of shit on the teenage boi bored for saying Morris was legit.NorwegianHusky said:
Pretty sure I beat you to the Morris hype, but I don't really care enough to start a struggle session so you can have this one.StrongArmCobra said:Lol I told you guys Morris was fucking good.
Nobody wanted to believe it. Everybody hated Morris as a recruit and some wanted Cale Millen instead of him.
If this is a 100% open QB competition then by week 1 Eason should be the starter and Morris should be the back up.
Morris is Jake Fromm 2.0
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Doogman:
- The defense came up with four interceptions, only three of which counted as one involved pass interference, while the offense had several big plays but only one touchdown.
- The quarterback competition continues, but Jacob Eason sure looks like he's feeling much more comfortable at the controls of the offense, stepping up deftly to avoid the rush, hitting quick passes to receivers and finding open players on his check-downs. Eason found Jordan Chin down the near sideline with a perfectly placed pass that allowed Chin to go up in the air over the corner in coverage
- Ty Jones' reputation during his first two seasons with the Dawgs was that he was a big receiver who plays small. This fall he has been starting to take the next step, and on Tuesday, he went up and make some nice catches with players draped on him and he even broke off a route and got open for Eason as the quarterback scrambled to get away from the pass rush. He also high pointed a ball from Haener in the middle of three defenders.
- Jake Haener had the play of the day, finding Westover in the back of the endzone and made a couple of nice throws that resulted in first downs. Haener was intercepted in 7v7 work by Kyler Gordon who made a nice break on a pass, but otherwise, he had a solid day.
- Jacob Sirmon and Dylan Morris each had some nice throws and both seemed to have some success between the 20s, but once they got into the redzone, they struggled. Morris did find Puka Nacua across the middle for a nice catch with Mishael Powell draped all over him.
- Salvon Ahmed had a big run in one of the final full team sessions, making a defensive tackle miss in the backfield and then bursting to his left down the sidelines for a 30-yard run.
- Two other players worth mentioning are tight end Hunter Bryant and receiver Chico McClatcher. Both have been the most consistent playmakers for the Husky offense in the first week of camp and each were consistent in getting open and making plays down the field on Tuesday.
- Near the end of practice, Laiatu Latu and redshirt freshman Zion Tupuola-Fetui were both in as the edge players with the first unit, playing alongside Josiah Bronson and Levi Onwuzurike along the defensive front.
- Latu definitely looks like a player who will see playing time this fall with his size and explosiveness to go along with his natural pass-rushing skills. He never seems to be phased by anything and he has the size and strength to play right away.
- 1st team secondary was Myles Bryant and Cameron Williams at safety, Keith Taylor and Kyler Gordon at corner and Elijah Molden over the slot as the nickel corner.
- Dominique Hampton intercepted Dylan Morris whileAsa Turner intercepted Sirmon.
- Peyton Henry appears to be pulling away from freshman Tim Horn at this point. Even with a 10 to 15 mph cross-wind, Henry was still able to hit on his three "live" attempts (32, 39 and 30) while Horn missed on two of his three attempts from the same distances. Henry is hitting the ball very well, especially when you compare his kicks to things at this time last year. -
Man McKinney gonna portal?
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Latu is going to be so good.
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DoogCourics you are a gentleman and a scholar. TYFYS
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Caple:
Salvon Ahmed can run, and he can run fast — faster, in fact, than any other player on Washington’s roster, if his hand-timed, 4.32-second 40-yard dash is the barometer.
He can run. But can he run … and run again … and run again, and again, and again, in the mold of Myles Gaskin, the school’s departed career rushing leader who carried it 259 times as a senior? Ahmed can burn around end like few others in the Pac-12, but can he bang through a scrum for 3 yards, fall forward for 2 more, pop right back up and do it again on second down?
He actually wasn’t bad between the tackles last season, data provided by Sports Info Solutions shows. It’s a small sample size, but Ahmed carried between the tackles 29 times for 118 yards, a per-carry average of 4.1. Gaskin, by comparison, carried between the tackles 99 times for 428 yards and three touchdowns, an average of 4.3 per attempt.
All seven of Ahmed’s touchdowns came on runs outside the tackles, though they weren’t all home runs — he scored on gains of 5, 7, 25, 2, 7, 4 and 4 yards. A little more than 72 percent of Ahmed’s carries were outside the tackles, and he averaged 6.5 yards per rush on those attempts. Gaskin, too, was more productive outside the tackles, averaging 5.3 yards per rush with nine touchdowns, with those attempts accounting for 61.1 percent of his total carries.
And for what it’s worth, Ahmed totaled more yards after contact per carry — 337 on 104 attempts, an average of 3.2 — than Gaskin (764 yards on 259 attempts, or 2.9 per rush).
The reality is that UW might not need Ahmed to withstand the bumps and bruises that accompany a 20- to 25-carry performance because the Huskies have two other backs — juniors Sean McGrew and Kamari Pleasant — who saw significant time last season, and a redshirt freshman, Richard Newton, who continues to impress during camp.
Ahmed says he feels faster, stronger and more confident than he did as a sophomore, and that “I’m working really hard to just be durable throughout the season.”
“The one thing that Salvon has is elite speed and quickness, and (we’re) really just trying to do our best to maximize that talent. It’s going to be exciting kind of watching him develop over this fall camp.”
Other observations from Wednesday’s practice:
- Jacob Eason took the first reps with the No. 1 offense, and led the group to a field goal on his final series of the day. His best throw was a completion over the middle to Hunter Bryant on second-and-15 — off play-action — that picked up a first down. He also had a nice completion to Andre Baccellia on a slant against cornerback Kyler Gordon, and threw two other good balls that were dropped. His final pass, an incompletion on third-and-7, was broken up on a nice play by cornerback Dominique Hampton, who knocked the ball away from Quinten Pounds near the end zone.
- The best drive of the day was engineered by Jake Haener, who led the No. 2 offense on an eight-play, 80-yard journey capped by about a 20-yard touchdown pass to redshirt freshman tight end Jack Westover, who made a nice catch of a nice throw. Haener also connected twice with Ty Jones for solid gains, and found tight end Devin Culp rolling to his right for a big gain, too. Working with the No. 1 offense, Haener also quarterbacked the final series of practice, which began with the aforementioned big run by Ahmed (it appeared to gain 30 or so yards, up the left sideline). But some snap issues stalled things a bit — Henry Roberts was working at center in place of Nick Harris — and Elijah Molden broke up a fourth-and-7 pass to Cade Otton on the final play.
- There were four interceptions Tuesday, with a fifth nullified by penalty. Jacob Sirmon threw the first, a pass tipped by outside linebacker Ariel Ngata and secured by senior walk-on cornerback Dustin Bush. The second went to Hampton, who picked off freshman Dylan Morris on a pass intended for redshirt freshman walk-on receiver David Pritchard. Gordon snagged the third, perfectly reading a route by Jones to intercept a Haener pass during 7-on-7s. And freshman safety Asa Turner intercepted Sirmon during 7-on-7s after receiver Fatu Sua-Godinet fell down. Freshman safety Cam Williams did pick off a throw by Eason — it would have been Eason’s first interception of camp — but a defensive holding penalty against Gordon took it off the board. -
I really liked the kid, and I thought he'd be a starter and a solid player this year. But he's getting outplayed. Molden has looked like the most dynamic DB in camp so far which has pushed Bryant (who is the leader) to safety. And Cam Williams is just flat out beating the brakes off McKinney.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Man McKinney gonna portal?
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Peterman said:
DoogCourics you are a gentleman and a scholar. TYFYS
This is true. I'm really fucking nice and I'm fucking smart to boot.
Oh, you were referencing how I create repositories of premium information and post them in full within the WAM. Then also gather info from multiple sites and post snippets in the public forums too.
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Good stuff on Ahmed
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This is what happens when you stack talent. McKinney I don't think is bad and there is a safety spot opening up next year regardless. Players like this were 4 year starters with sark. Maybe he never starts or only for a year under the current roster.DoogCourics said:
I really liked the kid, and I thought he'd be a starter and a solid player this year. But he's getting outplayed. Molden has looked like the most dynamic DB in camp so far which has pushed Bryant (who is the leader) to safety. And Cam Williams is just flat out beating the brakes off McKinney.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Man McKinney gonna portal?
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LPT was drooling over Chico today. They said on an end-around, Chico exploded around the edge and left everyone in the dust.
Ektard said it reminded him of John Ross in regards to how quickly he accelerated and just separated from the defenders.
Safe to say he's fully healthy for the first time in years.
Edit: Also raved about Culp. Said that last year he looked lost and had some off-field stuff. But he seems to have figured out what he's doing at TE and is running extremely well and catching everything that comes at him. -
I just don't fucking get the kicking thing. How fucking hard is it? I live by a high school where I use the track to run and several times I've seen random HS kicker out there practicing to try to get a college scholarship to some juco or small college and from what I see he's nailing kicks from 35 and in 98% of the time. Shit, I played HS soccer with a polish guy that could kick a ball through a fucking brick wall and hit a FG from 45 easy, and this was just some guy who wasn't even interested in football. And we hand Chris Sailer $10.95 and a blowie for some list and the guys on the list can't hit 3/3 from inside the 40?
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People forget how good a healthy Chico is. People forget that.DoogCourics said:LPT was drooling over Chico today. They said on an end-around, Chico exploded around the edge and left everyone in the dust.
Ektard said it reminded him of John Ross in regards to how quickly he accelerated and just separated from the defenders.
Safe to say he's fully healthy for the first time in years.
Edit: Also raved about Culp. Said that last year he looked lost and had some off-field stuff. But he seems to have figured out what he's doing at TE and is running extremely well and catching everything that comes at him.
I think I had a poast about that a year ago. A year holding the bag, and he's back.