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Cooper McDonald, 2020 3* LB, Justin (Northwest), TX (Committed)

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  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 12,663
    Tequilla said:

    It’s why as a UW fan I see such an opportunity in DFW

    TCU isn’t considered a real option by kids wanting to compete at the elite level. If you aren’t an Oklahoma/Texas kid then who’s recruiting you that you feel like you can compete at high levels? Arkansas? Okie Lite?

    TCU will continue to get the 3rd best classes in the Big 12 because they win just enough 2nd tier Texas/Louisiana talent and combine that with talent evaluation and development

    TCU is a great reminder that there’s talent all over and there’s a lot of different ways to create high end P5 programs
    The purple chrome helmets are now making sense.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    NLdawg said:

    The ridiculous idea that “investment” in Texas is such a massive resource suck relative to value that it hurts our efforts in Cali etc is one of my favorite lemming narratives here.
    It's a few visits a year for like 3 of the coaches. I'm not sure where this zero-sum idea originated. Probably Dennis.
  • TacoSoupTacoSoup Member Posts: 148
    edited July 2019

    It's a few visits a year for like 3 of the coaches. I'm not sure where this zero-sum idea originated. Probably Dennis.

    Styx sucks

    Edit I’m hungover and don’t know why this is block quoted.

    The “anti” TX thing falls back on opportunity. The evaluation period and shit is a finite time. If we? spend that time in freaking DFW, we are missing out on LA, San Bernardino, San Diego, etc

    EDIT sorry if this obvious. Again, I’m terribly hungover
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088

    Or I lived in DFW for 10 years and know how zero people know anything about UW or even the pac-12. Nor have interest in learning about it. It’s easier to just kick a down USC and a down UCLA ass right now.

    Except it's not a short term strategy. They are playing the long term game in Texas.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    I don’t love recruiting Texas, but Pete said they want a couple players each year from Texas, which they are doing. It’s not a big deal.
  • Neighbor2972Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,328
    We should 'recruit' Texas, we just should be smart about who we recruit and how much. The problem is half our staff are not great recruiters and I don't really trust them to be smart about it.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,953 Swaye's Wigwam
    If we want to level-up, we should be in Texas.

    And given that Texas operates at a different pace than the Pacific states, these battles are usually over by the spring when we know whether they're interested or not. Might be why we were late with local offers during this spring cycle, but the coaching staff will adapt.
  • whuggywhuggy Member Posts: 2,088
    I don't think I get it. When we are talking resources, is it time, money or both? How do teams like Oregon and Stanford afford the resources when they recruit on a much wider scale than UW? Do they really have that much more pull than UW that recruits will come to them rather than their staff traveling all over the US?
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,953 Swaye's Wigwam

    Other than the willie pay to play era I don’t think Oregon was doing much in Texas. Stanford is a national brand and can get kids to come to them.

    We’d need to be Clemson it to get kids effortlessly. If it’s the same kid in Compton or Houston I think the Compton kid takes less resources, independent of other competition etc.

    I’m not against it, I just think we’ll get better ROI in LA especially with USC and UCLA so down. We’re looking for kids Texas doesn’t want while we’re taking kids USC would die for.

    There is a better ROI for kids in CA than TX, but the argument is that there are only so many level-up kids in CA that we might as well look elsewhere. Our recruiting strategy has changed such that we're only recruiting the top kids in CA so that we have more time to invest in other areas where we might level up.

    For example, in 2015 we have 70 offers to kids in CA. In 2016, it was 59. Last year we had 44. This year is 30, and our class is getting close to full.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    Houhusky said:

    Texas is very limited in its ability to “level up” UW football.

    Texas is the place UW may be able to go and grab underrated/under-recruited players like Levi and McDonald. But it’s entirely dependent on the UW staff scouting an overlooked player better than any other southern/SEC/BIG12 program in the nation.

    You don’t level up a program by finding 3 star diamonds no one else wanted, and UW isn’t going to win any major recruiting battle in Texas for a high end kid with no west coast connections.
    This won't age well.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,021
    NEsnake12 said:

    The only problem I've ever had with the Texas push is the optics of giving out a bunch of early offers there before we offer similarly talented west coast kids, especially WA kids. There's no reason that Julien Simon and Troy Franklin should've been offered *after* the dozen or so TX kids

    We should be offering the high end West Coast guys at the same time ... looks like we’re addressing this with future classes
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,021

    Other than the willie pay to play era I don’t think Oregon was doing much in Texas. Stanford is a national brand and can get kids to come to them.

    We’d need to be Clemson it to get kids effortlessly. If it’s the same kid in Compton or Houston I think the Compton kid takes less resources, independent of other competition etc.

    I’m not against it, I just think we’ll get better ROI in LA especially with USC and UCLA so down. We’re looking for kids Texas doesn’t want while we’re taking kids USC would die for.

    Stanford has an elite education ... it’s not a national brand.

    Stanford wins kids that prioritize playing school as much of more than they prioritize football.

    If you prioritize NFL Development, winning conference titles, and competing for CFP berths then Washington kicks Stanford’s ass
  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    He has already announced he will be moving to ILB for his Senior season, so the tape this fall will tell us how outraged we all must be.

    Also, IIRC the average ILB this last draft class was 6'1". So while he may not be 6'3" with the length an edge guy needs, he doesn't need to be. He fits the same body mold of the ILB the coaches have gotten the last 2 classes.
    Figured I'd support my claim that his stature fits the mold of ILB just fine.

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