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Nihilism. Most of the time, doctors don't really do much you can't already do for yourself. Americans take poor care of their health being overweight, so heart disease, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. If you buy health insurance on the open market it's like a mortgage payment. The system itself is badly broken all the way through. The best thing to do is have everybody lose weight, don't go to the doctor so much, and don't feed the health industry beast.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
ApostleofGrief said:
Nihilism. Most of the time, doctors don't really do much you can't already do for yourself. Americans take poor care of their health being overweight, so heart disease, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. If you buy health insurance on the open market it's like a mortgage payment. The system itself is badly broken all the way through. The best thing to do is have everybody lose weight, don't go to the doctor so much, and don't feed the health industry beast.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument
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Obama hardly created this dumpster fire. He tried to build atop a broken system.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Nihilism. Most of the time, doctors don't really do much you can't already do for yourself. Americans take poor care of their health being overweight, so heart disease, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. If you buy health insurance on the open market it's like a mortgage payment. The system itself is badly broken all the way through. The best thing to do is have everybody lose weight, don't go to the doctor so much, and don't feed the health industry beast.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
ApostleofGrief said:
Obama hardly created this dumpster fire. He tried to build atop a broken system.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Nihilism. Most of the time, doctors don't really do much you can't already do for yourself. Americans take poor care of their health being overweight, so heart disease, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. If you buy health insurance on the open market it's like a mortgage payment. The system itself is badly broken all the way through. The best thing to do is have everybody lose weight, don't go to the doctor so much, and don't feed the health industry beast.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument
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I'm not a progressive. I'm a far-center.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Obama hardly created this dumpster fire. He tried to build atop a broken system.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Nihilism. Most of the time, doctors don't really do much you can't already do for yourself. Americans take poor care of their health being overweight, so heart disease, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. If you buy health insurance on the open market it's like a mortgage payment. The system itself is badly broken all the way through. The best thing to do is have everybody lose weight, don't go to the doctor so much, and don't feed the health industry beast.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
Gutless little worm.ApostleofGrief said:
I'm not a progressive. I'm a far-center.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Obama hardly created this dumpster fire. He tried to build atop a broken system.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Nihilism. Most of the time, doctors don't really do much you can't already do for yourself. Americans take poor care of their health being overweight, so heart disease, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. If you buy health insurance on the open market it's like a mortgage payment. The system itself is badly broken all the way through. The best thing to do is have everybody lose weight, don't go to the doctor so much, and don't feed the health industry beast.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
lolApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
Ask me how we? know you are a buffoon?ApostleofGrief said:
Obama hardly created this dumpster fire. He tried to build atop a broken system.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Nihilism. Most of the time, doctors don't really do much you can't already do for yourself. Americans take poor care of their health being overweight, so heart disease, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. If you buy health insurance on the open market it's like a mortgage payment. The system itself is badly broken all the way through. The best thing to do is have everybody lose weight, don't go to the doctor so much, and don't feed the health industry beast.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
This will be the second time he has had to seek surgery in the US or wait and suffer for many months in Canada. He's fortunate enough to be able to afford it.GDS said:
Forever...Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument
https://www.hqontario.ca/System-Performance/Wait-Times-for-Surgeries-and-Procedures/Wait-Times-for-Other-Surgeries-and-Procedures/Time-from-Decision-to-Having-Surgery-or-Procedure -
Did you mean Far left of center? Mao thinned down millions to nothing. But then I'd bet you're a big supporter of Mao.ApostleofGrief said:
I'm not a progressive. I'm a far-center.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Obama hardly created this dumpster fire. He tried to build atop a broken system.GrundleStiltzkin said:ApostleofGrief said:
Nihilism. Most of the time, doctors don't really do much you can't already do for yourself. Americans take poor care of their health being overweight, so heart disease, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. If you buy health insurance on the open market it's like a mortgage payment. The system itself is badly broken all the way through. The best thing to do is have everybody lose weight, don't go to the doctor so much, and don't feed the health industry beast.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument
