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Lets blame the consumer for the high costs instead of the drug companies and the politicians that they pay off every election cycle.ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
OK, keep going with your no fucking insuranceRaceBannon said:
Let's force everyone to accept your lifestyleApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument
Fuck off fascist -
personally I am waiting for the singularity when machines do all of this at next to no cost. But, I won't live that long.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Lets blame the consumer for the high costs instead of the drug companies and the politicians that they pay off every election cycle.ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
I do. Shitty healthcare for all sucks. It should just be shitty for people like you that won't pay.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument -
Forever...Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument
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I'm confused. Pro, or con, self-determinism?ApostleofGrief said:
the point is that americans don't take of themselves, 2/3 of us are overweight or fucking obese, we go to the Dr too muchGrundleStiltzkin said:
Great progressive pathos, as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Who cares?Sledog said:
My Canadian friend is looking to have hernia surgery here in the states because the wait is forever to get anything not life threatening done. Fuck that Shit!ApostleofGrief said:
Well, look. If most everybody lost 20-40 pounds, didn't smoke or do opiods, wore seatbelts, "government run" healthcare like in the UK would work fine. It's not going to be very consumer friendly, but if something bad like cancer struck, it would get treated. In Europe they have better results and pay far far far less on the whole. Eventually technology will do more, and drive down costs, so less manual health care. The result is universal access at low cost. You don't have to suffer from incredibly high prices and low accessibility. That's bullshit.SFGbob said:
Love the mindset here. Race said one time that he didn’t have health insurance and in the mind of a parasite that means Race should support government run healthcare.ApostleofGrief said:
One time you said you had no insurance.RaceBannon said:ICE imprisons US citizens
Let's give the government health care and every other part of our life
#Winning argument



