Sa'Vell Smalls, 6* 2020 BUCK, Seattle (Kennedy), WA (SIGNED)

Tequilla said:

DawgFader said:

Nah. Just that recruiting needs to be adaptable in its technique and communication if the Dawgs plan on competing with the blue bloods, year in year out. Otherwise conference championships are the ceiling.

Remembering these are impressionable kids and that they are listening and still learning, puts this bored and fan base in position to help or hurt the process. If you believe they read HH.

I know it can be fun but no need to be belligerent, move the fuck on to another thread. If you think it’s water under the bridge at this point then let it be.

If you still think there’s a chance let the kid know he’s wanted.

The menutiae / grey area is real housewives shit. Be clear about your position and help the kid make the right decision. To come fulfill his potential and be a Dawg.

Last I checked he hasn't made a decision.

Here’s another thought ...

Don’t take anything any HS kid says too seriously ... celebrate those that do come to UW and indifference to anybody that doesn’t

What makes Smalls different is the undercurrents of what caused him to put UW on blast ... pure falsehoods

But if you remember that no single player will make or break a football team, then it’s pretty easy to avoid falling into the trap of worshiping a HS kid that in the grand scheme of things has flashed nothing other than potential.

Rewind 7 years ago and some of these comments made trying to whisper sweet nothings to kids would have been destroyed by the same exact people on Doogman

Houhusky said:

DawgFader said:

CallMeBigErn said:

Houhusky said:

DawgFader said:

Yo fuckers...this is an impressionable kid. A good kid by most accounts from what I hear. It’s bound to be dramatic he’s the most important recruit at arguably the most important position outside of QB. No need to analogies either, he’s a game changing talent for the program.

Show him the love he deserves as a local kid regardless of the decision he makes. He’s basically from down the street. In the mean time show Banks massive love too we want both.

Nah. Fuck that. There is legitimate coaching and a program happening at UW. Fuck any local recruit that willingly goes to another team.

This isn’t willingham where it’s advised or Sark where it’s understandable.

This. I won't be showing love when he goes elsewhere. I won't be showing hate either. I'll just say "Toodles, motherfucker."

So we don’t want Small and Banks? It’s about acquiring talent. The best talent and drama go hand in hand. Recruiting's gonna need to adjust for that or the Petersen program will always hover around the second tier.

This is all about a young kid that probably reads these threads, almost certainly this one. All the good and all the garbage. He cares what people think, wants to make the right decision, become a pro and eventually a megastar if it’s in the cards.

I believe, UW offers the best shot at that, playing time, physical development with Socha, position development and skills with coach K. It’s all lined up. This is a call to help define a clear path to the right place. We don’t need to by into the social media and bitch about shit we have no clue about.

Now if you know something stop being a punk, PONY up and drop it in the wam.

False choice... of course you want the top players. But, I dont care if they are Barry Sanders version 69.0... If they are local and willingly go to another school. Fuck them.

I just want to be perfectly clear. Like a Toronto basketball fan cheering a certain stoppage of time in Game 5, if a local recruit leaves the area to go play at a school we play regularly play against I actively hope Ivan gets a hold of them ASAP and their career maxes out somewhere around Max Browne.



Fuck any of you pussy motherfuckers that want anyone to limit what they say on this forum because they are scared some retard child (generic not anyone specific) in high school might read a comment about local recruits leaving the area, or anything on this board for that matter, and take it a certain way.

JFC I cant believe we are now at the point where people are un-ironically posting "recruits and parents of recruits read these boards" type comments here and getting chincredibled for it.

GreenRiverGatorz said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Houhusky said:

DawgFader said:

CallMeBigErn said:

Houhusky said:

DawgFader said:

Yo fuckers...this is an impressionable kid. A good kid by most accounts from what I hear. It’s bound to be dramatic he’s the most important recruit at arguably the most important position outside of QB. No need to analogies either, he’s a game changing talent for the program.

Show him the love he deserves as a local kid regardless of the decision he makes. He’s basically from down the street. In the mean time show Banks massive love too we want both.

Nah. Fuck that. There is legitimate coaching and a program happening at UW. Fuck any local recruit that willingly goes to another team.

This isn’t willingham where it’s advised or Sark where it’s understandable.

This. I won't be showing love when he goes elsewhere. I won't be showing hate either. I'll just say "Toodles, motherfucker."

So we don’t want Small and Banks? It’s about acquiring talent. The best talent and drama go hand in hand. Recruiting's gonna need to adjust for that or the Petersen program will always hover around the second tier.

This is all about a young kid that probably reads these threads, almost certainly this one. All the good and all the garbage. He cares what people think, wants to make the right decision, become a pro and eventually a megastar if it’s in the cards.

I believe, UW offers the best shot at that, playing time, physical development with Socha, position development and skills with coach K. It’s all lined up. This is a call to help define a clear path to the right place. We don’t need to by into the social media and bitch about shit we have no clue about.

Now if you know something stop being a punk, PONY up and drop it in the wam.

False choice... of course you want the top players. But, I dont care if they are Barry Sanders version 69.0... If they are local and willingly go to another school. Fuck them.

I just want to be perfectly clear. Like a Toronto basketball fan cheering a certain stoppage of time in Game 5, if a local recruit leaves the area to go play at a school we play regularly play against I actively hope Ivan gets a hold of them ASAP and their career maxes out somewhere around Max Browne.



Fuck any of you pussy motherfuckers that want anyone to limit what they say on this forum because they are scared some retard child (generic not anyone specific) in high school might read a comment about local recruits leaving the area, or anything on this board for that matter, and take it a certain way.

JFC I cant believe we are now at the point where people are un-ironically posting "recruits and parents of recruits read these boards" type comments here and getting chincredibled for it.

Thank you for your service.

Based on what I'm reading and hearing from youth coaches in the know, Smalls sounds like an immature shithead. Hell, for all we know his ceiling may be lower than what people have been saying for the last two years. Not saying WDWHA, but at this point let him be somebody else's headache. It's over. Move on and get Banks.

"Not saying WDWHA, but I've invented some reasons for why we don't want him."

whuggy said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

whuggy said:

Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).

I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.

GreenRiverGatorz said:

whuggy said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

whuggy said:

Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).

I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.

The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.

fosterworth said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

whuggy said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

whuggy said:

Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).

I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.

The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.

While I agree that it's probably not much of a consideration, I doubt that the undergrad business degrees at his top 6 are comparable. U.S. News ranked UW's undergraduate business program as 21st best in the nation and 11th among public universities in 2019.

dnc said:

whuggy said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

whuggy said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

whuggy said:

Here's what I don't get about this whole deal. You hear Savell is a smart kid. You hear Savell is interested in the business world and life after football. And yet these are the places he has expressed interested in playing:
Eugene, Pullman, Gainseville, Tallahasse, College Station, Tuscaloosa. I'm not thinking the contacts you make in those communities are going to vault you forward after football is over. Austin makes sense to me. Seattle makes sense to me. Both destination locales for business and tech for the next twenty years at least. Of course everyone wants him to stay home but if he doesn't, and he's as smart as everyone says, then I get Univ. of Texas.

Those are all negligible differences when you have an NFL future. Most football players aren't looking to get into UW's comp sci program so that they can make six figures right out of college in a major tech hub. Most of them are going to major in something useless like communications, and if football falls through, use their profile to get in with a well-connected alum in an industry they probably didn't study towards. It's not like we offer anything in that department that gives us a leg up over any of the schools you listed (besides WSU).

I thought I read Savell was interested in the business world after football. Was that incorrect? I assumed, maybe wrongly, that since he has a reputation as being a strong student he would be avoiding the communications major and steering towards business. Happy to be corrected.

The same concept would apply for a generic business admin degree too. There is not a material difference between UW's undergrad Foster programs and the b schools of his top 6. This isn't an MBA we're talking about. If he wants to major in business at Bama for example, he'll have plenty of post grad opportunities in the Atlanta metro area. Bottom line, this kind of thing is rarely a consideration for an athlete with clear cut NFL potential.

That's interesting. Kind of makes it sound like the whole Built for Life angle that Pete is pushing doesn't hold a lot of sway with future NFL types. I would of thought though that Savell's reputed smartness would help him realize that he's just one bad injury away from having to consider an alternate future.

Most of these kids aren't guaranteed top ten picks in three years if their coaching and development doesn't screw things up. Sa'Vell's just on a different level than most of the recruits.

For him, he's going to be the brand for his business. Whatever school gives him the biggest platform is the one that's best for his business future.