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Greatest debut album in rap/hip-hop history?

NEsnake12
NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
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With us running out of rock albums I figured I'd get the ball rolling on hip-hop. No "major record label debut" shit, so the Slim Shady LP and others like that will come next round.

Greatest debut album in rap/hip-hop history? 38 votes

Dr. Dre - The Chronic
23%
RaceBannonHillsboroDuckalumni94Bad_MotherDuckerKaepskneeseatownfunkminion_doogLesGrossmanJoey 9 votes
Kanye West - The College Dropout
5%
BennyBeaverNEsnake12 2 votes
Wu Tang Clan - Enter the Wu Tang
7%
GrundleStiltzkin1to392831weretakendirtysouwfdawg 3 votes
Nas - The Illmatic
10%
digitsGladstoneToddTurnerLIVESNeighbor2972 4 votes
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
5%
whlinderPurpleJ 2 votes
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
26%
SwayeDennis_DeYoungStinky_HankeychuckanimatepawzhuskyhooliganspudenIPukeOregonGrellowYellowSnow 10 votes
Beastie Boys - License to Ill
7%
Mad_SonPitchfork51El_K 3 votes
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin'
5%
DooglesRDR 2 votes
Write-In
7%
PurpleThrobberBearsWiinBleachedAnusDawg 3 votes
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,438 Founders Club
    NWA - Straight Outta Compton
    TYFYS
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  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Kanye West - The College Dropout
    HillsboroDuck said:

    Quality pole. There are five or six worthy contenders there.

    Hip-hop artists in general put out most of their best stuff early on in their careers, when their sound/story is fresh. Hence why the 1st-3rd album polls will be stacked and then likely fall of quickly. Contrast that to the rock bands (especially the 60's ones) who often took 5+ albums to really hit the mark
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    NWA - Straight Outta Compton
    SOC, LTI, The Chronic (it’s amazing Dre has two albums on here AND a billion dollar company that changed the consumer landscape in America), 36 Chambers, College Dropout are all amazing.

    3 Feet High and Rising might warrant some consideration as well.

    DoggyStyle was sort of the Chronic II, but also excellent.

    In terms of societal impact (for better or worse), I’m not sure anything piece of art has changed our culture more than Straight Outta Compton.

    It was the most outlandish, over the top record ever when it came out. Now every fucking 10 year old talks about shooting people like it’s nothing.

    It’s unreal how much that record changed everything. It was a bit of a slow burn, but that really was the Meet the Beatles of gangsta rap. Now basically all rap is gangsta rap
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,662
    The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
    Am I really the only one who voted for Biggie?

    Fuck you guys. Chronic isn't even a debut album.
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  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Wu Tang Clan - Enter the Wu Tang
    While my whole high school was obsessed with dressing and looking like dumpster divers for ironic "I just don't care" conformity, stinking, not shaving lady legs, and "hacking" (which then/there meant standing in a circle and kicking a fucking beanbag), I was the one rural white boy waiting in front of the town's only record store for the store to open so I could be the first to pick up the Wu-Tang double album that was set to release that day. Got the whole football team hooked on that shit, and we used to blast ODB's "Dog Shit" on the bus on the way to games as the coaches awkwardly pretended to not hear.

    With no real influences to guide me in that direction, I gravitated toward hip hop from an early age and have never liked the sound of distortiony guitars and dudes "singing"/screaming/whining 12 word songs. Always preferred the east coast sound to the west coast sound, but there's good shit all around.

    I was already hip hop obsessed when the 36 chambers was released, but nothing blew me away like that before or since. The other debuts that left the biggest mark were pretty much every single Wu-Tang solo album (they're all soooooo fucking good), Busta Rhymes' The Coming, Outkast's Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik had heavy rotation for a while and was a totally different sound to me at the time (although I think ATLiens was better). Somewhat later, I was floored by the originality and quality of Quasimoto (Madlib)'s The Unseen.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,406 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2019
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    Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle

    Better album than The Chronic, hands down. Chronic has a few great songs, but lots of shit tracks. Not even a contest between these two albums. Beastie Boys and 50 Cent having entries over Snoop is the crime of the century.
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,742 Founders Club
    edited June 2019
    50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin'


    I don't actually believe this album is the greatest, just there was a mythical hype to 50cent and it reminds me of driving around with my douchebag friends sophomore year of high school blasting two kicker 12s in Mommy's 4Runner.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,662
    The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die

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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,423
    Nas - The Illmatic
    Came reeaaaalllly close to voting Kanye or Biggy.
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,668
    Beastie Boys - License to Ill
    Ja fuckin Rule
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    Beastie Boys - License to Ill
    Like the obvious choice he is straight outta Compton. Sure the chronic was important and great in its own right but straight outta compton created a new musical paradigm.

    Atbsivflti
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  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,878
    Dr. Dre - The Chronic
    PurpleJ said:


    He's the guy that hooked up with a Transsexual, right?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,544 Founders Club
    Dr. Dre - The Chronic
    alumni94 said:

    PurpleJ said:


    He's the guy that hooked up with a Transsexual, right?
    It's quite common really. Lots of celebs have a tranny in the glove box


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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Dr. Dre - The Chronic
    RaceBannon said:

    alumni94 said:

    PurpleJ said:


    He's the guy that hooked up with a Transsexual, right?
    It's quite common really. Lots of celebs have a tranny in the glove box


    NOT A BIG DEAL
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,438 Founders Club
    NWA - Straight Outta Compton
    Mad_Son said:

    Like the obvious choice he is straight outta Compton. Sure the chronic was important and great in its own right but straight outta compton created a new musical paradigm.

    Atbsivflti

    Bias gonna bias.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,198 Standard Supporter
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    RaceBannon said:

    alumni94 said:

    PurpleJ said:


    He's the guy that hooked up with a Transsexual, right?
    It's quite common really. Lots of celebs have a tranny in the glove box



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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,544 Founders Club
    edited June 2019
    Dr. Dre - The Chronic

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  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Kanye West - The College Dropout
    alumni94 said:

    PurpleJ said:


    He's the guy that hooked up with a Transsexual, right?
    You’re thinking of Tyga. That one was a big deal in the pop culture circles because he was dating Kylie Jenner at the time
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,662
    edited June 2019
    The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
    I knew a guy who cheated on his 8/10 pregnant girlfriend with a tranny. He got caught.
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  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    Write-In

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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Dr. Dre - The Chronic
    PurpleJ said:

    I knew a guy who cheated on his 8/10 pregnant girlfriend with a tranny. He got caught.

    You promised me you weren't going to tell anyone!
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,198 Standard Supporter
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    HillsboroDuck said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I knew a guy who cheated on his 8/10 pregnant girlfriend with a tranny. He got caught.

    You promised me you weren't going to tell anyone!
    Were you the tranny or the cheater?
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,710 Swaye's Wigwam
    NWA - Straight Outta Compton
    Imagine caring about this.

    How did Straight Outta Locash get excluded anyways?
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  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,791
    Nas - The Illmatic
    Some great ones listed here (Wu, Biggie, NWA), but Illmatic is one of the best rap/hip hop albums of all-time, let alone debut albums. Also, there is no "the" before Illmatic, it's just Illmatic.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    NWA - Straight Outta Compton
    Chronic is great, but come on. SOC redefined not only the genre but half the music played today. It was THE defining album of rap. The end.
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,668
    Beastie Boys - License to Ill
    Swaye said:

    Chronic is great, but come on. SOC redefined not only the genre but half the music played today. It was THE defining album of rap. The end.

    https://youtu.be/o52clsoKW8g

    One can only have one first album
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  • minion_doog
    minion_doog Member Posts: 2,024
    Dr. Dre - The Chronic



    SOC is THE iconic rap album no question, but personally, I mean I had The Chronic on just last night. Eazy and Snoop still get played frequently.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,198 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2019
    Write-In
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnMVAOm2-5s

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