Drinking at 6am
https://247sports.com/college/washington/Article/Pac-12-start-times-Oregon-USC-Washington-132654695/
I’ve heard it mentioned several times how some of our older alum said fuck season tickets when all the late starts and scheduling became the norm.
Does any body here think this could be an actual solution for getting more butts in seats? (I get the goal is national perception and exposure)
3 straight 10+ win seasons and I haven’t seen the annual times fluff piece on how off season ticket sales are booming. I feel like the opportunity to take over for sales exists here. I mean HH is already doing all of the branding and marketing.
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This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Of course it’s from doogman
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CFB has an attendance problem pretty much everywhere. 9 AM games would make it worse though.
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I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
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it's a regurgitation of a Wilner thought piece that tries to figure out how to give the Pac12 better exposure. It essentially suggests that only a few games per year would fit into this window and, as such, I think we can all assume that means it would be games like Oregon State hosting some random cupcake or, at most, 2 shitty Pac12 teams that nobody would watch anyway.
That said, it fucking baffles me that guys like Wilner are trying to come up with these creative ways to give the Pac12 more exposure in ridiculous ways instead of just stating the obvious - fire Larry Scott and re-set that entire fucking Pac12 Networks shit show. That is the sole problem with the exposure issue. -
I’m not a morning person, but support this as well in lieu of the traditional 12:30pm kickoff. The biggest benefit in my mind is knowing consistently every week when the damn game is so you can plan your weekend.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
Switch out beer/hotdogs for Bloody Marys/pancakes at the tailgates (hi @Swaye). Boom! Done! -
I like the way you think girl.Doog_de_Jour said:
I’m not a morning person, but support this as well in lieu of the traditional 12:30pm kickoff. The biggest benefit in my mind is knowing consistently every week when the damn game is so you can plan your weekend.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
Switch out beer/hotdogs for Bloody Marys/pancakes at the tailgates (hi @Swaye). Boom! Done!
edit: I am of course down with pancakes, and all that implies, but I am warming to this idea of early kick offs and the thought of breakfast sausages, egg sandwiches and Mimosas! -
9am is way better than anything after 3pm.
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Have kids and you’ll change your kind. You have to be out of the house for all their shit until after 4-5pm on Saturday.whatshouldicareabout said:9am is way better than anything after 3pm.
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I hate casual college football fans.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things. -
Make their other dad tote them around for Saturday sports.Meek said:
Have kids and you’ll change your kind. You have to be out of the house for all their shit until after 4-5pm on Saturday.whatshouldicareabout said:9am is way better than anything after 3pm.
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Showing your age here Gladdy. Hardcore disagree that the younger crowd would like this.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
The Dawg Pack would be 80% empty for a 9am kickoff. Students, especially those who only go to games for the social aspect, aren’t going to wake their asses up that early on a Saturday. Same goes for most early 20s fans. -
what does it implySwaye said:
I like the way you think girl.Doog_de_Jour said:
I’m not a morning person, but support this as well in lieu of the traditional 12:30pm kickoff. The biggest benefit in my mind is knowing consistently every week when the damn game is so you can plan your weekend.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
Switch out beer/hotdogs for Bloody Marys/pancakes at the tailgates (hi @Swaye). Boom! Done!
edit: I am of course down with pancakes, and all that implies, but I am warming to this idea of early kick offs and the thought of breakfast sausages, egg sandwiches and Mimosas! -
That he likes vodka is his mornings to go with his ihopPitchfork51 said:
what does it implySwaye said:
I like the way you think girl.Doog_de_Jour said:
I’m not a morning person, but support this as well in lieu of the traditional 12:30pm kickoff. The biggest benefit in my mind is knowing consistently every week when the damn game is so you can plan your weekend.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
Switch out beer/hotdogs for Bloody Marys/pancakes at the tailgates (hi @Swaye). Boom! Done!
edit: I am of course down with pancakes, and all that implies, but I am warming to this idea of early kick offs and the thought of breakfast sausages, egg sandwiches and Mimosas! -
Pitchfork51 said:
what does it implySwaye said:
I like the way you think girl.Doog_de_Jour said:
I’m not a morning person, but support this as well in lieu of the traditional 12:30pm kickoff. The biggest benefit in my mind is knowing consistently every week when the damn game is so you can plan your weekend.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
Switch out beer/hotdogs for Bloody Marys/pancakes at the tailgates (hi @Swaye). Boom! Done!
edit: I am of course down with pancakes, and all that implies, but I am warming to this idea of early kick offs and the thought of breakfast sausages, egg sandwiches and Mimosas!
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9 am kickoff? That gives people like an hourish to get fucked up. Fuck that
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I'll get up at 4AM to get properly lubed. I can be home and passed out by 2PM. Fuck it.backthepack said:9 am kickoff? That gives people like an hourish to get fucked up. Fuck that
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True, but we’re in a damned if we do, damned if we don’t situation. Late kick offs the Dawg Pack LEAVES! early (prompting the game day marketing team to have 3rd quarter giveaways like Dick’s burgers in a desperate attempt to try to bribe the students to stay).NEsnake12 said:
Showing your age here Gladdy. Hardcore disagree that the younger crowd would like this.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
The Dawg Pack would be 80% empty for a 9am kickoff. Students, especially those who only go to games for the social aspect, aren’t going to wake their asses up that early on a Saturday. Same goes for most early 20s fans.
Which returns us to @Meek’s earlier point about how our conference should’ve shit canned Champagne Larry a long time ago and gotten a better TV deal.
Believe you me, I sure as shit didn’t want to get up that early in my twenties. I don’t know what the sweet spot for kickoff times either to keep all segments of the fan base happy, but keeping things as they are isn’t a solution. -
9am kickoff is a debatable pull an all nighter time.Swaye said:
I'll get up at 4AM to get properly lubed. I can be home and passed out by 2PM. Fuck it.backthepack said:9 am kickoff? That gives people like an hourish to get fucked up. Fuck that
Might have a better chance getting to E1 buying an 8 ball at 3am after the bars let out and going on a hallucinatory vision quest than setting an alarm for 7. -
3Pm pacific is the sweet spot. Game is underway before the 7PM and 8PM Eastern highlight games start. The whole nation will be glued to their sets to watch the 87 progressions on the route tree for the Husky offense to throw a pick 6 on
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Doogles said:
9am kickoff is a debatable pull an all nighter time.Swaye said:
I'll get up at 4AM to get properly lubed. I can be home and passed out by 2PM. Fuck it.backthepack said:9 am kickoff? That gives people like an hourish to get fucked up. Fuck that
Might have a better chance getting to E1 buying an 8 ball at 3am after the bars let out and going on a hallucinatory vision quest than setting an alarm for 7.
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6pm CET sounds great, fuck all yall
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The Pac 12 should do a couple marquee match ups at 9. Not regional or ESPNU, FS1 bullshit. But ABC, ESPN or Fox. Everybody bitches about the late games and the overall lack of exposure for P12 football. This is the only way you can get the Midwest and EC to watch your conference plain and simple.
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80% of the dawgpack are casuals? If we have a rocking top 15 team they won’t show? It’s gotten worse than when I was there for Owen/early Sark then. We still had lots show up. First time I’ve felt old on this site haha.NEsnake12 said:
Showing your age here Gladdy. Hardcore disagree that the younger crowd would like this.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
The Dawg Pack would be 80% empty for a 9am kickoff. Students, especially those who only go to games for the social aspect, aren’t going to wake their asses up that early on a Saturday. Same goes for most early 20s fans. -
You really think the students are getting up in time after being railed the night before? Fuuuck noSwaye said:
I'll get up at 4AM to get properly lubed. I can be home and passed out by 2PM. Fuck it.backthepack said:9 am kickoff? That gives people like an hourish to get fucked up. Fuck that
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Fort Collins makes for some soft day drinkers.backthepack said:9 am kickoff? That gives people like an hourish to get fucked up. Fuck that
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Well fuck them. I never missed a game my entire time at UW and I sport fucked with the best of them. Pussies.backthepack said:
You really think the students are getting up in time after being railed the night before? Fuuuck noSwaye said:
I'll get up at 4AM to get properly lubed. I can be home and passed out by 2PM. Fuck it.backthepack said:9 am kickoff? That gives people like an hourish to get fucked up. Fuck that
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Said it before, say it again: The problem isn't the late starts. The most rockin' I've seen Husky Stadium at Alaska Airlines Dick's Burger Field was for night games against Stanford, USC, and Oregon (one out of three wins ain't bad!...). Yeah, the late starts eliminate a lot of the octogenarian "sit down, young man" types, but they're not exactly getting the place riled up anyway. The late crowd is younger, louder, and weeeeeeell lubed for a late kickoff.
The problem is bringing in shit teams that nobody has any interest in watching. That can't be helped with 81% of the PAC-Shit, but it's definitely something that can be helped by doing EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what whoever scheduled this year's OOC did.
As far as 9:00 kickoffs, it's genius if your top priority is television audience. If Washington were playing any ranked team at 12:00 in B1G/SEC/Big-12 land, that game would be on every single television at every single tailgate east of the Rockies. I think it would be shit for attendance, but it seems local attendance isn't even on anyone's radar anymore compared to TV numbers. -
The reality is that most of the casuals would rather watch Netflix hungover in bed than make it to the stadium by 9am.Gladstone said:
80% of the dawgpack are casuals? If we have a rocking top 15 team they won’t show? It’s gotten worse than when I was there for Owen/early Sark then. We still had lots show up. First time I’ve felt old on this site haha.NEsnake12 said:
Showing your age here Gladdy. Hardcore disagree that the younger crowd would like this.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
The Dawg Pack would be 80% empty for a 9am kickoff. Students, especially those who only go to games for the social aspect, aren’t going to wake their asses up that early on a Saturday. Same goes for most early 20s fans.
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Have you seen the latest season of The Great British Baking Show!? I rest my case.NEsnake12 said:
The reality is that most of the casuals would rather watch Netflix hungover in bed than make it to the stadium by 9am.Gladstone said:
80% of the dawgpack are casuals? If we have a rocking top 15 team they won’t show? It’s gotten worse than when I was there for Owen/early Sark then. We still had lots show up. First time I’ve felt old on this site haha.NEsnake12 said:
Showing your age here Gladdy. Hardcore disagree that the younger crowd would like this.Gladstone said:I love the idea of 9am kickoffs.
The older crowd that stopped attending games because they don’t want to get home at 1am? They’d be back. The bandwagon ‘football-is-a-social-event’ younger crowd that wants to be elsewhere Saturday night? They’d attend in much greater numbers. Hardcore fans? Home by early afternoon and can watch the all of the other CFB games the rest of the day. Casual fans? Can still have most of their Saturday to do dumb non CFB things.
The Dawg Pack would be 80% empty for a 9am kickoff. Students, especially those who only go to games for the social aspect, aren’t going to wake their asses up that early on a Saturday. Same goes for most early 20s fans.
It fucking sucks but that’s what this generation is about -
Wilner's proposal would mean one 9AM start every 3 years. Big fucking deal.
