why can't UW just be like Clemson or Bama?!

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Christ. I hate this board.

Maybe because UW hasnt won a fucking nationally relevant game since 2000?

Let's win a single NY6 game before we start talking about catching these 2 programs.

This is proof that HH is dead.

Says the guy who was never even a part of Husky Halfbrains.

El oh el.

This is literally exactly a dawgman post.

Doogs gonna doog. Doogs are just dumb low expectation having people. They think having high standards is too painful, so they just try to lower expectations to be reasonable. They are beta cucks.

So yeah.

I love that your rationale for why we can't be Clemson is because we haven't won a NY6 game, even though we've been in 3 of them in the last 3 years. lol

Dawgman 2.0 now. I get it. You trust the coaches and it's unreasonable to think we can do well.

Congratulations. This is literally a dawgman narrative.

Good job.

Imagine being this dumb

Luckily I don't have to.

Seriously though DDY. Do you think a national title within 10 years is a reasonable and realistic expectation?

Why are you starting shit with DDY? It's like going onto r/TheDonald and saying abortion is great! Sometimes I do think HH is an alt-right secret lair, to be honest. DDY loves saying beta cuck, and only angry white men say that. These people have established a fake reality based on personal shame and misinformation about masculinity. Food for thought.

NorwegianHusky said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Christ. I hate this board.

Maybe because UW hasnt won a fucking nationally relevant game since 2000?

Let's win a single NY6 game before we start talking about catching these 2 programs.

"Let's win an NY6 game without adressing any of the problems that are preventing us from doing that."

You are so completely oblivious to how stupid you sound. You seriously can't fathom that we want the same thing and the only difference is that we're willing to look at what it's going to actually take.

We just had our two best recruiting classes ever. They haven't seen the field (or barely have). Let's start there. Do you realize that our best chance to level up soon is already signed and been practicing with the team for 1-2 years? You fucktards are handwringing over our 2020 class in fucking May because it has Caucasians so far, like they're somehow inferior. Think about the ridiculousness of that. Your answer to everything is pander to certain elite recruits, GET MORE BLACKS, and have better Twitter marketing. I can get behind an increase/adjustment in marketing, but that's about it. Pete ain't gonna pander to recruits, he's not going to target recruits based on skin color, he's not going to give out bags, and he's going to find who he thinks fits his system, not the stars behind their name. That puts us behind the 8-ball right there if you're focused on star ranking, but it's made up for in other ways, AKA elite development. By the way, write a letter because it will do more good than bitching about it on this dark corner of the internet. AND I REPEAT, IT'S MAY. Think about it, a whole season will have been played before the 2020 class even signs. A lot can change. Regardless, the 2020 class, with the exception of Smalls, maybe, won't even be seeing the field for 2-3 more seasons! I don't know about you, but I'm ready to level up right the fuck now with Jacob Eason, improved WR play, an elite offensive line, Salvon Ahmed, a lights-out defense, improved special teams play (it can't be worse), and the 2018/2019 classes. If you build it, they will cum. LIPO is the word of the day, week, month, year, millennium. Despite Pete's aversion to caring about star rankings, we STILL just signed top 10 classes on 247 rankings if you take out special teams players. Like what the fuck else do you want? Think about that talent combined with our development. Development is our #1 asset, but it takes time. Just calm the fuck down.

GreenRiverGatorz said:

greenblood said:

NorwegianHusky said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Christ. I hate this board.

Maybe because UW hasnt won a fucking nationally relevant game since 2000?

Let's win a single NY6 game before we start talking about catching these 2 programs.

"Let's win an NY6 game without adressing any of the problems that are preventing us from doing that."

You are so completely oblivious to how stupid you sound. You seriously can't fathom that we want the same thing and the only difference is that we're willing to look at what it's going to actually take.

There are two ways a west coast team can win it all.

1) Recruit Nationally. Pete and company need to improve in this area.

2) Hope for an usually strong recruiting group out west for 3-4 consecutive years. (With football fading out west, this seems like a futile wish)

Even if the latter does happen, the west is consistently losing their top kids to the blue bloods as it is.

The west is only losing the top kids that USC and UCLA are failing to sign. Bad news for the conference, but UW and Oregon are doing just fine.

And we don't need to recruit nationally. If it happens, great, but there are more than enough players on the west coast to load up on.

LOL at our Texas vs Washington State strategy, then.

Meek said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

greenblood said:

NorwegianHusky said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Christ. I hate this board.

Maybe because UW hasnt won a fucking nationally relevant game since 2000?

Let's win a single NY6 game before we start talking about catching these 2 programs.

"Let's win an NY6 game without adressing any of the problems that are preventing us from doing that."

You are so completely oblivious to how stupid you sound. You seriously can't fathom that we want the same thing and the only difference is that we're willing to look at what it's going to actually take.

There are two ways a west coast team can win it all.

1) Recruit Nationally. Pete and company need to improve in this area.

2) Hope for an usually strong recruiting group out west for 3-4 consecutive years. (With football fading out west, this seems like a futile wish)

Even if the latter does happen, the west is consistently losing their top kids to the blue bloods as it is.

The west is only losing the top kids that USC and UCLA are failing to sign. Bad news for the conference, but UW and Oregon are doing just fine.

And we don't need to recruit nationally. If it happens, great, but there are more than enough players on the west coast to load up on.

LOL at our Texas vs Washington State strategy, then.

You guys seem to think it's one or the other. You're actually clueless about what's happening behind the scenes in state besides what happened with Smalls (which you're just speculating on, and it may not be over) and random tweets from Tracy Ford or Gee Scott, who has a vendetta. TWEETS from spurned parties with their own interests. Not exactly a source I put a lot of stake in. Besides, Texas is a long-term play. Evaluate that strategy in 5 years.

HillsboroDuck said:

CallMeBigErn said:

Meek said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

greenblood said:

NorwegianHusky said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Christ. I hate this board.

Maybe because UW hasnt won a fucking nationally relevant game since 2000?

Let's win a single NY6 game before we start talking about catching these 2 programs.

"Let's win an NY6 game without adressing any of the problems that are preventing us from doing that."

You are so completely oblivious to how stupid you sound. You seriously can't fathom that we want the same thing and the only difference is that we're willing to look at what it's going to actually take.

There are two ways a west coast team can win it all.

1) Recruit Nationally. Pete and company need to improve in this area.

2) Hope for an usually strong recruiting group out west for 3-4 consecutive years. (With football fading out west, this seems like a futile wish)

Even if the latter does happen, the west is consistently losing their top kids to the blue bloods as it is.

The west is only losing the top kids that USC and UCLA are failing to sign. Bad news for the conference, but UW and Oregon are doing just fine.

And we don't need to recruit nationally. If it happens, great, but there are more than enough players on the west coast to load up on.

LOL at our Texas vs Washington State strategy, then.

You guys seem to think it's one or the other. You're actually clueless about what's happening behind the scenes in state besides what happened with Smalls (which you're just speculating on, and it may not be over) and random tweets from Tracy Ford or Gee Scott, who has a vendetta. TWEETS from spurned parties with their own interests. Not exactly a source I put a lot of stake in. Besides, Texas is a long-term play. Evaluate that strategy in 5 years.

The racism stuff is probably overstated and overplayed. The frustration about the lack of in state offers is very real. In the macro you can maybe explain Scott and Rogers being ignored. In the macro it looks real bad when you add Levi Rogers, Bruener and Pete Latu this class and Simon, Will Latu, Tinae, Alexander, and the other receivers next class.

There is plenty of in state four star talent not even being offered scholarships (a lot of it high four star talent), while high three stars in Texas are popping plenty of offers.

I love Pete but this makes no damn sense. We’ve been waiting on some of these obvious kids to get offers for over two years.

It’s a big problem.

As I said, it's entirely speculative as to why these kids aren't getting offered right now. There could be a damn good reason. It also doesn't mean they won't be. I'm 100% sure the coaches are in contact, offer or not. You're assuming that these in-state guys are pissed off and upset based on what? A Tracy Ford tweet? OK. We are selective. That's the reason. If we were throwing out 500 offers and none of them were to in-state guys, yes, that would be weird. But we've offered 60, 2nd lowest in the nation. Yes, I tend to lean towards trusting the people who know the program, the recruits, and talent evaluation the best. Pete's eval >>>>>>>>> Biggins' eval. Biggins isn't pumping players into the NFL. If that makes me a Dawgman doog, so be it. Remember, I'm banned from Dawgman. I'm too irrational for Dawgman and I'm too rational for HH.

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CallMeBigErn said:

Meek said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

greenblood said:

NorwegianHusky said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Christ. I hate this board.

Maybe because UW hasnt won a fucking nationally relevant game since 2000?

Let's win a single NY6 game before we start talking about catching these 2 programs.

"Let's win an NY6 game without adressing any of the problems that are preventing us from doing that."

You are so completely oblivious to how stupid you sound. You seriously can't fathom that we want the same thing and the only difference is that we're willing to look at what it's going to actually take.

There are two ways a west coast team can win it all.

1) Recruit Nationally. Pete and company need to improve in this area.

2) Hope for an usually strong recruiting group out west for 3-4 consecutive years. (With football fading out west, this seems like a futile wish)

Even if the latter does happen, the west is consistently losing their top kids to the blue bloods as it is.

The west is only losing the top kids that USC and UCLA are failing to sign. Bad news for the conference, but UW and Oregon are doing just fine.

And we don't need to recruit nationally. If it happens, great, but there are more than enough players on the west coast to load up on.

LOL at our Texas vs Washington State strategy, then.

You guys seem to think it's one or the other. You're actually clueless about what's happening behind the scenes in state besides what happened with Smalls (which you're just speculating on, and it may not be over) and random tweets from Tracy Ford or Gee Scott, who has a vendetta. TWEETS from spurned parties with their own interests. Not exactly a source I put a lot of stake in. Besides, Texas is a long-term play. Evaluate that strategy in 5 years.

@CallMeBigErn is Basnight confirmed.

I can't even be offended, because who the fuck is Basnight?

HillsboroDuck said:

CallMeBigErn said:

HillsboroDuck said:

CallMeBigErn said:

HillsboroDuck said:

CallMeBigErn said:

Meek said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

greenblood said:

NorwegianHusky said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Christ. I hate this board.

Maybe because UW hasnt won a fucking nationally relevant game since 2000?

Let's win a single NY6 game before we start talking about catching these 2 programs.

"Let's win an NY6 game without adressing any of the problems that are preventing us from doing that."

You are so completely oblivious to how stupid you sound. You seriously can't fathom that we want the same thing and the only difference is that we're willing to look at what it's going to actually take.

There are two ways a west coast team can win it all.

1) Recruit Nationally. Pete and company need to improve in this area.

2) Hope for an usually strong recruiting group out west for 3-4 consecutive years. (With football fading out west, this seems like a futile wish)

Even if the latter does happen, the west is consistently losing their top kids to the blue bloods as it is.

The west is only losing the top kids that USC and UCLA are failing to sign. Bad news for the conference, but UW and Oregon are doing just fine.

And we don't need to recruit nationally. If it happens, great, but there are more than enough players on the west coast to load up on.

LOL at our Texas vs Washington State strategy, then.

You guys seem to think it's one or the other. You're actually clueless about what's happening behind the scenes in state besides what happened with Smalls (which you're just speculating on, and it may not be over) and random tweets from Tracy Ford or Gee Scott, who has a vendetta. TWEETS from spurned parties with their own interests. Not exactly a source I put a lot of stake in. Besides, Texas is a long-term play. Evaluate that strategy in 5 years.

The racism stuff is probably overstated and overplayed. The frustration about the lack of in state offers is very real. In the macro you can maybe explain Scott and Rogers being ignored. In the macro it looks real bad when you add Levi Rogers, Bruener and Pete Latu this class and Simon, Will Latu, Tinae, Alexander, and the other receivers next class.

There is plenty of in state four star talent not even being offered scholarships (a lot of it high four star talent), while high three stars in Texas are popping plenty of offers.

I love Pete but this makes no damn sense. We’ve been waiting on some of these obvious kids to get offers for over two years.

It’s a big problem.

As I said, it's entirely speculative as to why these kids aren't getting offered right now. There could be a damn good reason. It also doesn't mean they won't be. I'm 100% sure the coaches are in contact, offer or not. You're assuming that these in-state guys are pissed off and upset based on what? A Tracy Ford tweet? OK. We are selective. That's the reason. If we were throwing out 500 offers and none of them were to in-state guys, yes, that would be weird. But we've offered 60, 2nd lowest in the nation. Yes, I tend to lean towards trusting the people who know the program, the recruits, and talent evaluation the best. Pete's eval >>>>>>>>> Biggins' eval. Biggins isn't pumping players into the NFL. If that makes me a Dawgman doog, so be it. Remember, I'm banned from Dawgman. I'm too irrational for Dawgman and I'm too rational for HH.

You're obviously not following these kids on Twitter so you have no clue, but the Latus, Simon, Scott, Rogers and others have publicly expressed frustration at their lack of an offer from UW. The UW offer is coveted in state, this is where Tequila is wrong. We aren't ignoring them because they don't want us. Guys like Shaq have had to come in and try and encourage these guys to be patient "Pete's just different" etc. Which is fine until they see some 3 star from Texas at the same position got offered. These kids aren't dumb.

Recruiting rankings have a very high hit rate so Biggins' has plenty of guys he's evaluated highly in the NFL.

I can see having a couple highly rated in state guys that you evaluate differently. The sheer volume of kids they are ignoring or passing on is alarming. A lot of these will bite us in the ass if we don't fix it quickly.

Devil's Advocate... perhaps they like the 3* from Texas more? It's a tough line to toe, for sure, because you're more likely to hit on your in-state guys. But if Pete thinks the 3* from Texas is a better fit than the local guy, shouldn't he pursue the player he likes best and build in-roads in the biggest football state in the nation? Stars be damned. If he offers the in-state guy, and they commit, then he likely has ZERO chance with the out-of-state guy he likes more. I understand where you're coming from. I do. I'm just seeing it from the other side of the coin too. As long as coaches are still staying in contact with the in-state guys and not completely ignoring them (we have no idea the extent to which this is happening), they do have a decent chance of getting the in-state guy to commit, even if the offer is late, as opposed to the late offer to the out-of-state guy. I don't believe for a second that those in-state bridges are completely blown up. If the kids are expressing frustration about the lack of UW offer, it means they do in fact still covet that UW offer (I'd like to see the Simon, Rogers, Latu, Scott tweets). Otherwise they wouldn't care. If the UW offer is so coveted, they will still be excited when it comes, and despite the later offer, they still know the program, and likely will still have maintained contact with the coaches. An offer is not the entire recruitment. It's just the final piece. They can't be THAT spiteful when they see how selective we are. After all, UW offers are "meaningful". We've heard it straight from recruit's mouths. Offering out-of-state guys before the in-state guys does have some sound reasoning, in my mind, if they like them more, which it seems like they do in some cases.

I’m not gonna spend the time digging them back up for you to explain them away. Each of those kids has a thread here you can read through if you are legitimately interested. I’m sure they’ve been documented as we go.

Whiffing on the best back to back recruiting
classes in your home state history so you can maybe make some in roads in a state you’ve been trying and failing to make in roads in your entire tenure here seems like a highly effective strategy, I can see why you’d defend it.

I want Pete to target the best players for his system. If they come from in state, cool. If they come from out of state, cool. If they were born and raised as a sherpa on the slopes of Mt. Everest, cool. We've done just fine without Fozzy, Wedington, etc. Perhaps we whiffed on Evan Weaver.