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I took a long walk to get some perspective.

It didn't work. I'm still pissed about Smalls.

But here are just a few things to think about. If one defensive player could make-or-break a team, then:
- Aaron Donald would've taken Pitt to the national championship.
- Lawrence Taylor would've taken north carolina to the national championship (yes, I'm going back a few years).
- Ndamukung (sp?) Suh would've taken nebraska to the national championship.
- Khalil Mack would've taken univ of buffalo to the national championship.
- J.J. Watt would've taken wisconsin to the national championship.
- Luke Kuechly would've taken boston college to the national championship.
- On and on and on.

I am STILL hopeful that somebody can offer Smalls some useful guidance and show him that his best chance for development as a football player and a man is at the University of Washington, and that he can still "be his own man" and "do something different" without having to leave Seattle.

But if we (sadly) don't get Smalls, then looking at the above list of names I know that UW's defense can still be championship caliber if we can continue to recruit strong across the board, develop guys like Laiatu Latu and Bralen Trice into stellar pass rushers, and if we can keep Lake, Kwiatkowski and Malloe in place for a few years.

This program can reach the highest peaks without one player. But if this losing stellar-in-state-player shit becomes a pattern under Petersen like it did under his predecessors (Jonathan Stewart, Foster Sarrell, Garnett, Banner, Taylor Mays, David DeCastro) then that's another story.

We better fucking get that JT Tuimoloau guy, or no long walk will help me.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,152
    No one player besides MAYBE an ascendant QB like Lawrence or Tua can bring a national title just by signing. For fucks sake.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Plus if Smalls did go to Oregon with the other 5 star rush in they would be in the playoffs and our retarded offense would be lucky to score

    Or we run into him in the playoffs and get worked
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    Believe me, I know. I was at both Rose Bowls. Replacing Emtman with Steve Hoffmann was like playing with 10 players instead of 11.

    But what if we would've replaced Emtman with Larry Tripplett? Or perhaps Greg Gaines? I think the results would've been completely different. Not as dominant, but not as tragic.

    Losing Smalls matters, but it doesn't have to kill us.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,715 Founders Club
    Passion said:

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    Believe me, I know. I was at both Rose Bowls. Replacing Emtman with Steve Hoffmann was like playing with 10 players instead of 11.

    But what if we would've replaced Emtman with Larry Tripplett? Or perhaps Greg Gaines? I think the results would've been completely different. Not as dominant, but not as tragic.

    Losing Smalls matters, but it doesn't have to kill us.
    I agree. We will go on without him and hopefully the guys we do have make it happen
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    Ndamakong Suh almost single handedly won the 2009 Big12 championship game against Texas for Nebraska
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    NEsnake12 said:

    Ndamakong Suh almost single handedly won the 2009 Big12 championship game against Texas for Nebraska

    "Almost" won the "Big12 championship"?

    wow.
  • guntlove
    guntlove Member Posts: 784

    Here's the deal. I think even the most suicidal among us right now agrees that UW is not going to be bad under Pete. In fact, I think we all agree we'll be good and continue to compete for conference championships, make NY6 games, hell, maybe even win one big bowl game. John Cooper followed that track. Lots of good seasons, many NFL-bound kids. But guess who he missed out on and it came back to bite him in the ass? 1997 Heisman Trophy winner, Charles Woodson, an Ohio native.

    The problem here is that without Smalls, JT, etc we are never going to compete for a natty (I like to call it that). I don't think anyone is worried about the team sucking or underachieving.

    This.

    Good chit, Anusboat.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    It doesn't matter that we didn't get the overall top 5 player in country from in-state this year as long as we get the overall top 5 player in the country from in-state next year.

    Strong agree
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    The totemic value of landing Smalls would have huge. Losing him, the impact is much, much bigger. It's double black eyes, knee to the balls, and called faggot in front of his friends for the program, imo.


    Ain’t that the truth, baby
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    D’marco Farr replaced Stan and he wasn’t enough. Morris trophy winner in 93, too
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Baseman said:

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    D’marco Farr replaced Stan and he wasn’t enough. Morris trophy winner in 93, too
    D'Marco was one of our best DLs ever and he could not replace Stan. There have been like 6 DTs in the history of CFB that could replace him.

    Sav'ell is better than all of them put together.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    None of those defenses had every piece besides the one in question though.

    UW does.

    One defensive player can’t get a mediocre defense a ring.

    One elite defensive player at the right position can make an already very good to great defense ring worthy though.

    That was Smalls.

    Now he gone.

    FYFMFE

    Losing smalls being an unacceptable failure aside you are delusional if you think this team is a player away from a ring.

    Have you seen our offense under Pete?
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Baseman said:

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    D’marco Farr replaced Stan and he wasn’t enough. Morris trophy winner in 93, too
    Uh, I think D’Marco Farr replaced Tyrone Rodgers and Steve Hoffmann replaced Emtman (or stan or whatever the fuck we call him here).
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    dhdawg said:

    None of those defenses had every piece besides the one in question though.

    UW does.

    One defensive player can’t get a mediocre defense a ring.

    One elite defensive player at the right position can make an already very good to great defense ring worthy though.

    That was Smalls.

    Now he gone.

    FYFMFE

    Losing smalls being an unacceptable failure aside you are delusional if you think this team is a player away from a ring.

    Have you seen our offense under Pete?
    I'm assuming significant improvement at the QB position with Eason and Huard. I thought that was obvious.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    Amen brother. Amen. I cried like a little bitch after the Arizona game.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    Passion said:

    It didn't work. I'm still pissed about Smalls.

    But here are just a few things to think about. If one defensive player could make-or-break a team, then:
    - Aaron Donald would've taken Pitt to the national championship.
    - Lawrence Taylor would've taken north carolina to the national championship (yes, I'm going back a few years).
    - Ndamukung (sp?) Suh would've taken nebraska to the national championship.
    - Khalil Mack would've taken univ of buffalo to the national championship.
    - J.J. Watt would've taken wisconsin to the national championship.
    - Luke Kuechly would've taken boston college to the national championship.
    - On and on and on.

    I am STILL hopeful that somebody can offer Smalls some useful guidance and show him that his best chance for development as a football player and a man is at the University of Washington, and that he can still "be his own man" and "do something different" without having to leave Seattle.

    But if we (sadly) don't get Smalls, then looking at the above list of names I know that UW's defense can still be championship caliber if we can continue to recruit strong across the board, develop guys like Laiatu Latu and Bralen Trice into stellar pass rushers, and if we can keep Lake, Kwiatkowski and Malloe in place for a few years.

    This program can reach the highest peaks without one player. But if this losing stellar-in-state-player shit becomes a pattern under Petersen like it did under his predecessors (Jonathan Stewart, Foster Sarrell, Garnett, Banner, Taylor Mays, David DeCastro) then that's another story.

    We better fucking get that JT Tuimoloau guy, or no long walk will help me.

    Did you unplug from Technology? Was the beach on the Big Island?

    If not, you weren't doing it right.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited May 2019

    dhdawg said:

    None of those defenses had every piece besides the one in question though.

    UW does.

    One defensive player can’t get a mediocre defense a ring.

    One elite defensive player at the right position can make an already very good to great defense ring worthy though.

    That was Smalls.

    Now he gone.

    FYFMFE

    Losing smalls being an unacceptable failure aside you are delusional if you think this team is a player away from a ring.

    Have you seen our offense under Pete?
    I'm assuming significant improvement at the QB position with Eason and Huard. I thought that was obvious.
    Sure. But there is no guarantee either of those guys will be the savior and as far as we know the scheme and wr are still the same.

    Also while we are talented at rb it isn't proven talent.

    We might win a NY6 bowl with a decent QB finally tho.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    A dominant D lineman makes all the difference. Those guys are like gold.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    Baseman said:

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    D’marco Farr replaced Stan and he wasn’t enough. Morris trophy winner in 93, too
    D'Marco was one of our best DLs ever and he could not replace Stan. There have been like 6 DTs in the history of CFB that could replace him.

    Sav'ell is better than all of them put together.
    JTT is better than the 7 best DTs in college football history put together?
    fixed and yes
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    None of those defenses had every piece besides the one in question though.

    UW does.

    One defensive player can’t get a mediocre defense a ring.

    One elite defensive player at the right position can make an already very good to great defense ring worthy though.

    That was Smalls.

    Now he gone.

    FYFMFE

    Losing smalls being an unacceptable failure aside you are delusional if you think this team is a player away from a ring.

    Have you seen our offense under Pete?
    I'm assuming significant improvement at the QB position with Eason and Huard. I thought that was obvious.
    Sure. But there is no guarantee either of those guys will be the savior and as far as we know the scheme and wr are still the same.

    Also while we are talented at rb it isn't proven talent.

    We might win a NY6 bowl with a decent QB finally tho.
    If our QB play improves to an above average level and we get an elite pass rush we can win a national title with everything else as is.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Baseman said:

    91 had Stan

    92 did not

    The difference was huge

    All of a sudden the middle of the 46 was exposed and in the very first game of 92 an ASU running back ran wild through it

    D’marco Farr replaced Stan and he wasn’t enough. Morris trophy winner in 93, too
    D'Marco was one of our best DLs ever and he could not replace Stan. There have been like 6 DTs in the history of CFB that could replace him.

    Sav'ell is better than all of them put together.
    Sav'ell is better than the 7 best DTs in college football history put together?
    YEAH HE IS AND THROW IN RONNIE LOTT.

    jfc Cunt.