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Why Petersen's offense has sucked is actually simple
PostGameOrangeSlices
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I think the biggest reason the offense sucks is that it is too multiple. In another thread someone was talking about how awesome our heavy TE formations are.
Essentially, UW players have to learn 5 times the amount of shit other teams do. UW players have to know and practice spread, power, power spread, option, west coast, and pretty much everything else besides wing t...and then the players shift in and out of the formations.
UW can get away with this against inferior athletes. However, against the elite atheletic teams (USC and Bama in 2016, Penn State 2017, Auburn and Ohio State 2018) you can't do everything kind of well and get away with it. You have to have one reliable scheme that can get it done against anybody, consistently.
The comebacks against PSU and Ohio State proved we have the talent to move the ball and score fast when we are desperate.
Even with Browning it is 100% a philosophy problem. Cut the playbook in half (or more) and reduce the formations for a third. It's a complete jack of all trades, master of none system.
Essentially, UW players have to learn 5 times the amount of shit other teams do. UW players have to know and practice spread, power, power spread, option, west coast, and pretty much everything else besides wing t...and then the players shift in and out of the formations.
UW can get away with this against inferior athletes. However, against the elite atheletic teams (USC and Bama in 2016, Penn State 2017, Auburn and Ohio State 2018) you can't do everything kind of well and get away with it. You have to have one reliable scheme that can get it done against anybody, consistently.
The comebacks against PSU and Ohio State proved we have the talent to move the ball and score fast when we are desperate.
Even with Browning it is 100% a philosophy problem. Cut the playbook in half (or more) and reduce the formations for a third. It's a complete jack of all trades, master of none system.
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The players dont suck, our O is just too advanced POTD
Nope, it's browning. -
Except for it wasnt Browning when we were pounding people's shit in out of heavy TE sets, and it wasn't Browning when he was shredding Auburn and Ohio State by throwing the fucking ball 15 yards instead of 5. Whether Browning thinks he should run the read option in the red zone or not is irrelevant...don't have the fucking play in the play book to begin with.Pitchfork51 said:The players dont suck, our O is just too advanced POTD
Nope, it's browning.
Browning had issues, but they couldve been mitigated -
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Except for it wasnt Browning when we were pounding people's shit in out of heavy TE sets, and it wasn't Browning when he was shredding Auburn and Ohio State by throwing the fucking ball 15 yards instead of 5.Pitchfork51 said:The players dont suck, our O is just too advanced POTD
Nope, it's browning.
Browning had issues, but they couldve been mitigated
Lets get this straight. Browning wasnt shredding anyone.
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Browning was throwing dimes all over the place in the second half vs Auburn...he threw for 300 yards on 18 completions...Pitchfork51 said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Except for it wasnt Browning when we were pounding people's shit in out of heavy TE sets, and it wasn't Browning when he was shredding Auburn and Ohio State by throwing the fucking ball 15 yards instead of 5.Pitchfork51 said:The players dont suck, our O is just too advanced POTD
Nope, it's browning.
Browning had issues, but they couldve been mitigated
Lets get this straight. Browning wasnt shredding anyone.
Ohio State he made some decent throws and Hunter Bryant was catching anything thrown within 10 feet of him -
I didnt watch the second half. But I'm going to assume they let up and didnt give a fuck because they were crushing youPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Browning was throwing dimes all over the place in the second half vs Auburn...he threw for 300 yards on 18 completions...Pitchfork51 said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Except for it wasnt Browning when we were pounding people's shit in out of heavy TE sets, and it wasn't Browning when he was shredding Auburn and Ohio State by throwing the fucking ball 15 yards instead of 5.Pitchfork51 said:The players dont suck, our O is just too advanced POTD
Nope, it's browning.
Browning had issues, but they couldve been mitigated
Lets get this straight. Browning wasnt shredding anyone.
Ohio State he made some decent throws and Hunter Bryant was catching anything thrown within 10 feet of him -
In what game? Vs Auburn it was close the entire time...Ohio State probably was letting up, but they werent good on defense to begin with and got carved up by every mediocre Big Ten QB they facedPitchfork51 said:
I didnt watch the second half. But I'm going to assume they let up and didnt give a fuck because they were crushing youPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Browning was throwing dimes all over the place in the second half vs Auburn...he threw for 300 yards on 18 completions...Pitchfork51 said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Except for it wasnt Browning when we were pounding people's shit in out of heavy TE sets, and it wasn't Browning when he was shredding Auburn and Ohio State by throwing the fucking ball 15 yards instead of 5.Pitchfork51 said:The players dont suck, our O is just too advanced POTD
Nope, it's browning.
Browning had issues, but they couldve been mitigated
Lets get this straight. Browning wasnt shredding anyone.
Ohio State he made some decent throws and Hunter Bryant was catching anything thrown within 10 feet of him -
so you agreePostGameOrangeSlices said:
In what game? Vs Auburn it was close the entire time...Ohio State probably was letting up, but they werent good on defense to begin with and got carved up by every mediocre Big Ten QB they facedPitchfork51 said:
I didnt watch the second half. But I'm going to assume they let up and didnt give a fuck because they were crushing youPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Browning was throwing dimes all over the place in the second half vs Auburn...he threw for 300 yards on 18 completions...Pitchfork51 said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Except for it wasnt Browning when we were pounding people's shit in out of heavy TE sets, and it wasn't Browning when he was shredding Auburn and Ohio State by throwing the fucking ball 15 yards instead of 5.Pitchfork51 said:The players dont suck, our O is just too advanced POTD
Nope, it's browning.
Browning had issues, but they couldve been mitigated
Lets get this straight. Browning wasnt shredding anyone.
Ohio State he made some decent throws and Hunter Bryant was catching anything thrown within 10 feet of him -
I think we just need to call more speed options and the Offense will work itself out.
Maybe along the goaline, with a non mobile QB, into an NFL DE...
Also more pre snap motion, a lot more. -
Run. The fucking. Ball.
Offense is too fucking cute.
Cal lost to UCLA this year, and UCLA ran the ball 54 times. 45 if you take out Dorian Thompsons runs. UW, two weeks later, ran the ball 33 times, or 27 if you take out Brownings 6 attributed runs. Ahmed had an absolute shit game, 8 rushes, -2 yards, but when Kamari Pleasant averaged 5.2 yards on 12 carries, maybe he should have gotten more touches.
ASU lost to San Diego State at home in 2017. Yeah they had Rashaad Penny, but we also have MMFG. Penny broke a 95 yard touchdown. Well SDSU ran 18 pass plays, and 35 run plays (not including QB runs). UW ran 19 rush plays not including Shitsocks runs. Crazy part is Gaskin, Coleman, and Ahmed all broke runs over 15 yards. Miles Gaskin had 5 of his 14 carries in the final drive for UW. On the touchdown drive, they ran 10 times, two of those by shit socks, who was probably scrambling from a shitty pass play call.
Ohio State gets run the fuck over by Maryland. MARY-FUCKING-LAND! Maryland ran the ball 37 times for 359 yards. Kudos to Ohio State as well for running 41 times for 224 yards (I'm not including QB stats). Browning threw 17 more times than Haskins! Ran 9 times in the first half, 3 points. They ran 7 times on the first drive of the second half, gaining 43 yards, before you guessed it, Shitsocks is sacked for 7 yards o 2nd and 6. On 3&13, we run the ball for four yard loss. Obviously the rest of the half is run focused and they score 20 points.
Too, fucking cute.
My hope from the offensive side, is that Eason actually helps the run game. Teams won't be able to stack the box knowing they can be beaten over the top by the big arm. -
Comedy. I'd say nice attempt slice...but it wasnt:( you are so far from knowing what you're talking about....but if u werent I'd have 1 less person to make look foolish. Keep it upPostGameOrangeSlices said:I think the biggest reason the offense sucks is that it is too multiple. In another thread someone was talking about how awesome our heavy TE formations are.
Essentially, UW players have to learn 5 times the amount of shit other teams do. UW players have to know and practice spread, power, power spread, option, west coast, and pretty much everything else besides wing t...and then the players shift in and out of the formations.
UW can get away with this against inferior athletes. However, against the elite atheletic teams (USC and Bama in 2016, Penn State 2017, Auburn and Ohio State 2018) you can't do everything kind of well and get away with it. You have to have one reliable scheme that can get it done against anybody, consistently.
The comebacks against PSU and Ohio State proved we have the talent to move the ball and score fast when we are desperate.
Even with Browning it is 100% a philosophy problem. Cut the playbook in half (or more) and reduce the formations for a third. It's a complete jack of all trades, master of none system.
