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Latest from Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone

YellowSnow
YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
Matt's been doing solid work on the long term damage to the media on getting way over their skis....

This fiasco will surely end up being a net plus for Trump. The obstruction parts of the report make him look like a brainless goon and thug, but the absence of what Mueller repeatedly calls “underlying crime” make his ravings about an elitist mob out to get him look justified. This is not an easy thing to achieve, but we’re there, and the press is a big part of that picture.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russiagate-fiasco-taibbi-news-media-826246/
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,885
    Escaping the commission of an underlying crime that you really wanted to commit, but you weren't competent enough to achieve, isn't a defense to obstruction or a great look.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,002
    Who, of sound mind, would ever trust the media again? The lies, one sided reporting, the declarations of Trump being guilty of collusion, treason, entire networks reaping the rewards of those lies and then doubling down. Again, who, besides brain dead democrats, would ever trust the media again?

    This last two years was an amazing shit show of lack of responsible journalism. Other than FOX there isn't one main stream media source that gave any other perspective other than that of a brain dead liberal. We all knew the MSM is 93% democrat dominated and if anyone needed any confirmation of liberal bias they sure as hell got it this last 2 years. You can't even find a MSM source (again other than FOX) who will even report on the excellent economy and the incredible impact on millions of Americans that this job market is providing. They not only spewed their bias about Trump but they are withholding from their viewers anything good that is happening with our country.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Escaping the commission of an underlying crime that you really wanted to commit, but you weren't competent enough to achieve, isn't a defense to obstruction or a great look.

    Look, I've been extremely vocal here that I think he's a reckless, dips hit and a disgrace to the office. My opinion hasn't changed. Perhaps the obstruction piece would look stronger if crimes had been committed.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,002
    HHusky said:

    Escaping the commission of an underlying crime that you really wanted to commit, but you weren't competent enough to achieve, isn't a defense to obstruction or a great look.

    Yes which is why the administration supplied millions of pages of documents, 1000's of hours of testimony and always said yes to Mueller. And what crime are you accusing Trump and team of wanting to commit this time?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    I love this video so much. Cheap Trick is gonna be a tough out in the Classic Rock NIT (coming later this spring/summer).


  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    “Fake news? Mueller isn’t buying it,” writes David Bauder of the Associated Press. He noted that with a “few exceptions,” Mueller’s investigation “repeatedly supports news reporting that was done on the Russia probe over the last two years.”

    Bauder added the report showed “several instances where the president and his team sought to mislead the public.” He congratulated the New York Times and Washington Post for correctly reporting that White House counsel Don McGahn had been ordered to find a way to fire Mueller.

    Trump, Bauder noted, had called this “fake news, folks, fake news.” It wasn’t. And neither were some other stories.

    So, yay journalism! You were more truthful than Donald Trump, at times. This is like being proud of beating a fish at Boggle.

    We’re not trying to be right more often than Trump — we’re trying to not be wrong, ever. It’s a standard, not a competition.

    You know what was fake news? Most of the Russiagate story. There was no Trump-Russia conspiracy, that thing we just spent three years chasing. The Mueller Report is crystal clear on this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,002

    “Fake news? Mueller isn’t buying it,” writes David Bauder of the Associated Press. He noted that with a “few exceptions,” Mueller’s investigation “repeatedly supports news reporting that was done on the Russia probe over the last two years.”

    Bauder added the report showed “several instances where the president and his team sought to mislead the public.” He congratulated the New York Times and Washington Post for correctly reporting that White House counsel Don McGahn had been ordered to find a way to fire Mueller.

    Trump, Bauder noted, had called this “fake news, folks, fake news.” It wasn’t. And neither were some other stories.

    So, yay journalism! You were more truthful than Donald Trump, at times. This is like being proud of beating a fish at Boggle.

    We’re not trying to be right more often than Trump — we’re trying to not be wrong, ever. It’s a standard, not a competition.

    You know what was fake news? Most of the Russiagate story. There was no Trump-Russia conspiracy, that thing we just spent three years chasing. The Mueller Report is crystal clear on this.
    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/04/22/top-51-fake-news-bombshells-media-spread-russiagate/

  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025

    HHusky said:

    Escaping the commission of an underlying crime that you really wanted to commit, but you weren't competent enough to achieve, isn't a defense to obstruction or a great look.

    It’s down to “he didn’t do anything, but he wanted to!”

    Just like how i feel about Ivanka and Melania's luscious racks....

    IKW
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
    Bernie is back to being against illegals now too

    Looks like your little sweatshop is going to lose

    Loser
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025

    I love this video so much. Cheap Trick is gonna be a tough out in the Classic Rock NIT (coming later this spring/summer).


    Cheap Trick is so vastly underrated.

    Just the other day i heard of a soldier's falling off...
    Some Indonesian junk that's going 'round............

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,885
    edited April 2019

    HHusky said:

    Escaping the commission of an underlying crime that you really wanted to commit, but you weren't competent enough to achieve, isn't a defense to obstruction or a great look.

    It’s down to “he didn’t do anything, but he wanted to!”

    Nope. He obstructed justice. Plainly. Out in the open. And that's before the redactions come off and McGahn testifies.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    https://foxnews.com/entertainment/michael-mukasey-chris-cuomo-misleading-mueller


    A former attorney general has slammed CNN host Chris Cuomo, accusing the host of "misleading" his audience about the Mueller investigation.

    Michael B. Mukasey, a former federal judge, and President George W. Bush’s attorney general, took Cuomo on during an interview on his show Tuesday night. During a discussion about Attorney General Barr's summary of the Mueller report, Cuomo argued that Barr wrote his letter in a purposeful way to mislead the American people.

    Mukasey, however, fired back that it was Cuomo and his network that proposed the report itself and the information within it in a misleading way.

    "That letter came at a time when, no criticism of you, but your network were devoting days of people sitting around and talking about a report that they didn't -- whose content they didn't know, that they hadn't seen, in essence, panels of people sitting around a table inhaling their own exhaust and getting high on it," Mukasey said.

    The country was in a state of absolute hysteria. You had a countdown clock in the corner of not one but several networks about the release of the report. He did the responsible thing," Mukasey said of Barr.

    "[The letter] summarized the bottom line of that report which was that there was no collusion and that the special counsel had found that he could not indict but could not vindicate the president."

    Mukasey then clarified that he meant the special counsel could not exonerate Trump, rather than vindicate. On that note, he argued, that it is not even the special counsel's job to exonerate anyone, because that job lies within the realm of a higher power.

    BUT JUST WAIT FOR THE NEXT INVESTIGATION!!!!!! - HHusky - noted sucker
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
    Bernie is back to being against illegals now too

    Looks like your little sweatshop is going to lose

    Loser
    Bernie and Trump. Damone coined the phrase that they are opposite sides of the same retarded coin.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
    Bernie is back to being against illegals now too

    Looks like your little sweatshop is going to lose

    Loser
    Bernie and Trump. Damone coined the phrase that they are opposite sides of the same retarded coin.
    One will be our next President

    Maybe you should learn how to compete without slave labor
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
    Bernie is back to being against illegals now too

    Looks like your little sweatshop is going to lose

    Loser
    Bernie and Trump. Damone coined the phrase that they are opposite sides of the same retarded coin.
    One will be our next President

    Maybe you should learn how to compete without slave labor
    Slave labor's getting expensive these days. Wanna guess what house keepers are getting paid in Downtown SFO now?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
    Bernie is back to being against illegals now too

    Looks like your little sweatshop is going to lose

    Loser
    Bernie and Trump. Damone coined the phrase that they are opposite sides of the same retarded coin.
    One will be our next President

    Maybe you should learn how to compete without slave labor
    Trump has been unable to stop the forces of free market economics (ie the supply and demand for labor). I’m sure he’ll do better in a second term. Or Bernie will because he’s socialist.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
    Bernie is back to being against illegals now too

    Looks like your little sweatshop is going to lose

    Loser
    Bernie and Trump. Damone coined the phrase that they are opposite sides of the same retarded coin.
    One will be our next President

    Maybe you should learn how to compete without slave labor
    Trump has been unable to stop the forces of free market economics (ie the supply and demand for labor). I’m sure he’ll do better in a second term. Or Bernie will because he’s socialist.
    I wasn't aware his term was over let alone his two terms

    Illegal labor isn't free market and a country that doesn't control its borders isn't a country

    Too bad you're such a loser that you can't compete without exploiting people. Tick tock your days are numbered
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
    Bernie is back to being against illegals now too

    Looks like your little sweatshop is going to lose

    Loser
    Bernie and Trump. Damone coined the phrase that they are opposite sides of the same retarded coin.
    One will be our next President

    Maybe you should learn how to compete without slave labor
    Trump has been unable to stop the forces of free market economics (ie the supply and demand for labor). I’m sure he’ll do better in a second term. Or Bernie will because he’s socialist.
    I wasn't aware his term was over let alone his two terms

    Illegal labor isn't free market and a country that doesn't control its borders isn't a country

    Too bad you're such a loser that you can't compete without exploiting people. Tick tock your days are numbered
    Threats and warnings from trumptards. Sounds serious. I should probably cancel my home improvement and landscaping projects.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    Trump fired Comey. He didn't need help to fire Mueller

    They wanted him to fire Mueller. If he was that stupid he would have

    I'm sure he railed about a lot in the Oval Office

    You ought to see our office sometime

    Your office is as “smart” as the trump White House? Good to know. And you’re surprised illegals are kicking your ass?
    Good one!

    Like Trump we are building America. Tuff guys who don't take shit from pencil pushing losers like you

    And we are #winning

    Fuck off
    That’s why you bitch, moan and cry about illegals every day. Because you’re winning. Makes sense.
    Stupid says what?
    Good one. How old are you again?
    Bernie is back to being against illegals now too

    Looks like your little sweatshop is going to lose

    Loser
    Bernie and Trump. Damone coined the phrase that they are opposite sides of the same retarded coin.
    One will be our next President

    Maybe you should learn how to compete without slave labor
    Trump has been unable to stop the forces of free market economics (ie the supply and demand for labor). I’m sure he’ll do better in a second term. Or Bernie will because he’s socialist.
    I wasn't aware his term was over let alone his two terms

    Illegal labor isn't free market and a country that doesn't control its borders isn't a country

    Too bad you're such a loser that you can't compete without exploiting people. Tick tock your days are numbered
    Threats and warnings from trumptards. Sounds serious. I should probably cancel my home improvement and landscaping projects.
    No you should go with low price illegal labor

    Quality will be awesome