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Jay'Veon Sunday, 2020 3* RB, Waco (Connally), TX (Committed)
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This is why Sunday is good. He’s not a burner, which is why he hasn’t been offered by Texas, A&M, etc but he has great balance and he’s going to run hard.ccharanza said:Well I'm quite sure I'm not going to go measure his thighs but from 20 feet away they are stout...He's not a big ripped up kid....he runs track as well. He's just got really good vision and balance and runs mean AF
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Fuck you guys lazily stating the obvious, that speed isn't everything. No shit. They dont run the 100m in a football game. No shit.
Without a major improvement in his speed and burst a guy like this will never find a hole in high level football. He'll get gang tackled at the line 9/10 runs. -
He’s also still in his junior year ... so there’s still time to improve
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Bomerpopper saw Jayveon Sunday, twas his lucky bun day
You know what I mean.
He texts him each weekday, each velvety cheek day
You know what I mean.
His love gun's loaded and he's in his sights
Big commitment's waiting there inside his tights -
Looks like a lot of people agree with me. Football speed > track speed and he's not a finished product.
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Football speed is greater than track speed ... But his absolute speed is worrisome because it's pretty fucking slow ... And at some point it becomes tough to excuse.StrongArmCobra said:Looks like a lot of people agree with me. Football speed > track speed and he's not a finished product.
If he was dominating the toughest leagues like the Trinity then it would be much easier to disregard but I'm not sure how his league is -
Waco isn’t chip liver
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This has Marshawn at 11.12 in HS. Not sure what year though. I couldn't find any other numbers, so where are you getting that time from?RealRhino said:
Marshawn was a good high school runner. 10.94 100 meter compared to Sunday's personal best of 11.34.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't think Marshawn Lynch in high school would have looked good running the 100 meter dash either. And yes, with the right training he could easily improve his speed.chuck said:Ballz did you see Sunday running the 100 meters? They could work a miracle with his speed and he'd still be the slowest tailback on any upper tier team in the nation. I tried to be positive about him, but I saw enough. He's a 4.8- 5.0 40 guy right now. You really think that can be improved on enough?
I'm way more hopeful about Newton.
https://ca.milesplit.com/athletes/pro/4459732/stats
I also can't find any other times for Jay'I'm not sure why it is inconceivable for Sunday to shave .2 of a second next year. He took a second off his 200m time this year between meets 1 and 2.
I think this whole discussion is way overblown. -
this is the real season, where we like behave irrational and hystericalWoof said:
This has Marshawn at 11.12 in HS. Not sure what year though. I couldn't find any other numbers, so where are you getting that time from?RealRhino said:
Marshawn was a good high school runner. 10.94 100 meter compared to Sunday's personal best of 11.34.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't think Marshawn Lynch in high school would have looked good running the 100 meter dash either. And yes, with the right training he could easily improve his speed.chuck said:Ballz did you see Sunday running the 100 meters? They could work a miracle with his speed and he'd still be the slowest tailback on any upper tier team in the nation. I tried to be positive about him, but I saw enough. He's a 4.8- 5.0 40 guy right now. You really think that can be improved on enough?
I'm way more hopeful about Newton.
https://ca.milesplit.com/athletes/pro/4459732/stats
I also can't find any other times for Jay'I'm not sure why it is inconceivable for Sunday to shave .2 of a second next year. He took a second off his 200m time this year between meets 1 and 2.
I think this whole discussion is way overblown. -
Thank you sir.Woof said:
This has Marshawn at 11.12 in HS. Not sure what year though. I couldn't find any other numbers, so where are you getting that time from?RealRhino said:
Marshawn was a good high school runner. 10.94 100 meter compared to Sunday's personal best of 11.34.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't think Marshawn Lynch in high school would have looked good running the 100 meter dash either. And yes, with the right training he could easily improve his speed.chuck said:Ballz did you see Sunday running the 100 meters? They could work a miracle with his speed and he'd still be the slowest tailback on any upper tier team in the nation. I tried to be positive about him, but I saw enough. He's a 4.8- 5.0 40 guy right now. You really think that can be improved on enough?
I'm way more hopeful about Newton.
https://ca.milesplit.com/athletes/pro/4459732/stats
I also can't find any other times for Jay'I'm not sure why it is inconceivable for Sunday to shave .2 of a second next year. He took a second off his 200m time this year between meets 1 and 2.
I think this whole discussion is way overblown. -
Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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DoogCourics said:
For reference:
Bolt finishes 9.63. The man at the top of the screen (lane 2) finishes in 9.98.
How big of a difference is 3 1/2 tenths of a second?
https://youtu.be/bVTqySCtzVI
Yes, 11.34 is quite different from 10.94.
Edit: fuck the Olympic Committee. Just click the link and watch in YouTube.
Just so it’s clear, I am saying nothing about Sunday’s abilities nor am I saying he has to be fast to be good. Neither am I saying he can’t get faster because he obviously can.
I’m just showing what 0.4 seconds looks like since it seemed there was confusion as to how big a gap that is. -
This. He has good acceleration, it's just the top speed that's lacking. And he makes up for it by being a bitch to tackle in the open field... he's really good at using is free arm to swat away arm tackles.RoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
Watch the run at 2:47 in his junior year film. He has that unteachable natural vision and patience to wait for his blockers to set up the hole, and then bursts through it. -
No. Sam’s RB is incredibleStrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.FKA_Mousecop said:
Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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There's no confusion. Learn how to do math and physics. The gap of 0.4 seconds is larger the faster the times that are being run. Therefore, 0.4 seconds is a bigger gap for elite world class sprinters running sub-10 seconds than it is for high school kids running in the low 11 second range.DoogCourics said:DoogCourics said:For reference:
Bolt finishes 9.63. The man at the top of the screen (lane 2) finishes in 9.98.
How big of a difference is 3 1/2 tenths of a second?https://youtu.be/bVTqySCtzVI
Yes, 11.34 is quite different from 10.94.
Edit: fuck the Olympic Committee. Just click the link and watch in YouTube.
Just so it’s clear, I am saying nothing about Sunday’s abilities nor am I saying he has to be fast to be good. Neither am I saying he can’t get faster because he obviously can.
I’m just showing what 0.4 seconds looks like since it seemed there was confusion as to how big a gap that is. -
Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.StrongArmCobra said:
Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.FKA_Mousecop said:
Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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FKA_Mousecop said:
Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams onStrongArmCobra said:
Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.FKA_Mousecop said:
Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
defenseoffense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them. -
Thank you for the save sirHillsboroDuck said:FKA_Mousecop said:
Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams onStrongArmCobra said:
Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.FKA_Mousecop said:
Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
defenseoffense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them. -
Who cares. Everybody was recruiting Asa Turner as a linebacker and UW was the only one recruiting him to play DB. I'm good at talent evaluations. UW is good at talent evaluations. So we usually agree where a kid fits best and where his highest potential is. Adams can play RB just fine and be a great college RB. But if he wants to have a long lasting career in the NFL and limit the damage to his body and brain, he should play DB.FKA_Mousecop said:
Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.StrongArmCobra said:
Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.FKA_Mousecop said:
Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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Asa wanted to play DB, Adams has never suggested that he does as well.StrongArmCobra said:
Who cares. Everybody was recruiting Asa Turner as a linebacker and UW was the only one recruiting him to play DB. I'm good at talent evaluations. UW is good at talent evaluations. So we usually agree where a kid fits best and where his highest potential is. Adams can play RB just fine and be a great college RB. But if he wants to have a long lasting career in the NFL and limit the damage to his body and brain, he should play DB.FKA_Mousecop said:
Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.StrongArmCobra said:
Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.FKA_Mousecop said:
Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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In his original interview post UW offer he said UW liked him as an athlete and he didn't care which side of the ball he plays on because he enjoys them both equally. Sure, if UW can only get Adams and one of Sunday or Robinson then Adams is probably a RB for UW. But if they can get all three which would mean more talent overall, then he probably gets bumped to DB which would be helpful because if we don't get Ransom we're fucked at safety in this class again unless we get Adams as a SS where he'd fit in perfectly.FKA_Mousecop said:
Asa wanted to play DB, Adams has never suggested that he does as well.StrongArmCobra said:
Who cares. Everybody was recruiting Asa Turner as a linebacker and UW was the only one recruiting him to play DB. I'm good at talent evaluations. UW is good at talent evaluations. So we usually agree where a kid fits best and where his highest potential is. Adams can play RB just fine and be a great college RB. But if he wants to have a long lasting career in the NFL and limit the damage to his body and brain, he should play DB.FKA_Mousecop said:
Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.StrongArmCobra said:
Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.FKA_Mousecop said:
Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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Will Harris isn’t even following him, he’s not going to be a DB.StrongArmCobra said:
In his original interview post UW offer he said UW liked him as an athlete and he didn't care which side of the ball he plays on because he enjoys them both equally. Sure, if UW can only get Adams and one of Sunday or Robinson then Adams is probably a RB for UW. But if they can get all three which would mean more talent overall, then he probably gets bumped to DB which would be helpful because if we don't get Ransom we're fucked at safety in this class again unless we get Adams as a SS where he'd fit in perfectly.FKA_Mousecop said:
Asa wanted to play DB, Adams has never suggested that he does as well.StrongArmCobra said:
Who cares. Everybody was recruiting Asa Turner as a linebacker and UW was the only one recruiting him to play DB. I'm good at talent evaluations. UW is good at talent evaluations. So we usually agree where a kid fits best and where his highest potential is. Adams can play RB just fine and be a great college RB. But if he wants to have a long lasting career in the NFL and limit the damage to his body and brain, he should play DB.FKA_Mousecop said:
Exactly, they are different recruits. Most schools are offering Racanelli on defense, while basically all are offering Adams on defense. You got it backwards regardless of your personal belief on where their skill sets will take them.StrongArmCobra said:
Different recruits, different skill sets, different genetics. Possibly more position flexibility on Adams' end. Every situation is different and nuanced. No shit.FKA_Mousecop said:
Somehow Sam Adams might be a DB, but Sawyer Racanelli won't be a LB, interesting...StrongArmCobra said:
How about all three and Sam plays DB?backthepack said:
But still get Sam and Bijan or gtfoRoadDawg55 said:Watched the film again. I don’t care what his track times are. He’s good.
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Stop waste your time arguing over this kids track speed. If you actually saw him run it's pretty clear he has no experience or training with track. If he ever learned to run with good form and use starting blocks correctly you wouldn't be talking about this. But learning that shits not going to make him a better football player.
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Jesus didn’t come out of the rock cave for this
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That reminds me, hope you had a blessed Easter @guntlove!Edwin_Bambino said:Jesus didn’t come out of the rock cave for this
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Yeah man, just learn how to do math and physics, ya dum dum.StrongArmCobra said:
There's no confusion. Learn how to do math and physics. The gap of 0.4 seconds is larger the faster the times that are being run. Therefore, 0.4 seconds is a bigger gap for elite world class sprinters running sub-10 seconds than it is for high school kids running in the low 11 second range.DoogCourics said:DoogCourics said:For reference:
Bolt finishes 9.63. The man at the top of the screen (lane 2) finishes in 9.98.
How big of a difference is 3 1/2 tenths of a second?https://youtu.be/bVTqySCtzVI
Yes, 11.34 is quite different from 10.94.
Edit: fuck the Olympic Committee. Just click the link and watch in YouTube.
Just so it’s clear, I am saying nothing about Sunday’s abilities nor am I saying he has to be fast to be good. Neither am I saying he can’t get faster because he obviously can.
I’m just showing what 0.4 seconds looks like since it seemed there was confusion as to how big a gap that is.
