David Frum's Bullet Points on Immigration
(2) The fiscal costs of present immigration policies are high. The argument that immigrants strengthen Social Security and Medicare is false. America’s bias in favor of low-skilled immigrants, legal and illegal, means that immigrants pay relatively little in taxes, while requiring a lot by way of services.
(3) The most important costs and benefits of immigration are neither economic nor fiscal, but social and political.
(4) Among those social and political costs: the radicalization of politics that we see in so many developed countries. Brexit, the rise of the French National Front, the triumph of authoritarian populists in Italy and other European Union countries, and America’s own election of Donald Trump—all were fueled by many causes, but high levels of immigration provided the spark.
(5) The pressures of immigration are not going away on their own. Over the coming decades, more and more people in the global South will be able to afford to make their way—legally, illegally, or as asylum seekers—to the global North. Unless properly managed, this impending movement of people may destabilize democratic governments on an even greater scale than anything we have yet seen.
(6) Many of the benefits of immigration can be gained, and many of the harms minimized, by more strategic immigration policies, including stricter enforcement in the workplace to protect legal workers; faster removal of unfounded asylum claimants; more emphasis on skilled rather than unskilled immigrants; and lower total numbers of immigrants.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/03/david-frum-reacts-immigration-responses/585391/
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I am confused because when you said bullets I thought he wanted genocide.
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I've long stated in the Tug that Trump is god's judgement for the collective stupidity of the Democratic and Republican parties of the past number of decades. As with the case on so many policy matters, I find Trump's messaging to be shitty and demagogic (Messico wasn't going to pay for the wall) and still can't stand the man. But he wouldn't be in office today, if we have fixed the illegal immigration issue decades ago. The Dems are so fucking stupid on this issue in that you can't protect the group you claim needing protection unless you win elections. Open borders is bad electoral college politics.
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Look at my post about New Mexico todayYellowSnow said:I've long stated in the Tug that Trump is god's judgement for the collective stupidity of the Democratic and Republican parties of the past number of decades. As with the case on so many policy matters, I find Trump's messaging to be shitty and demagogic (Messico wasn't going to pay for the wall) and still can't stand the man. But he wouldn't be in office today, if we have fixed the illegal immigration issue decades ago. The Dems are so fucking stupid on this issue in that you can't protect the group you claim needing protection unless you win elections. Open borders is bad electoral college politics.
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Yes, I don't want militias patrolling the border. That's not a good situation.RaceBannon said:
Look at my post about New Mexico todayYellowSnow said:I've long stated in the Tug that Trump is god's judgement for the collective stupidity of the Democratic and Republican parties of the past number of decades. As with the case on so many policy matters, I find Trump's messaging to be shitty and demagogic (Messico wasn't going to pay for the wall) and still can't stand the man. But he wouldn't be in office today, if we have fixed the illegal immigration issue decades ago. The Dems are so fucking stupid on this issue in that you can't protect the group you claim needing protection unless you win elections. Open borders is bad electoral college politics.
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Amazing how such logic could be printed in a liberal rag like The Atlantic by one of the most prominent Never Trump cuckolds.
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I've been enjoying many pieces from The Atlantic of late. Several writers there saw how horrible media practices were on the Covington Catholic story, for example.YellowSnow said:Amazing how such logic could be printed in a liberal rag like The Atlantic by one of the most prominent Never Trump cuckolds.
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The Atlantic is left of center no doubt, but they do have some good journalists.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I've been enjoying many pieces from The Atlantic of late. Several writers there saw how horrible media practices were on the Covington Catholic story, for example.YellowSnow said:Amazing how such logic could be printed in a liberal rag like The Atlantic by one of the most prominent Never Trump cuckolds.
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Hondo when he sees this thread
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The Dems inherently have two opposed bases on immigration.
White working class which obviously favors restrictive immigration policies.
Immigrants and minorities (and neolibs) that favor more open immigration policies.
It never ceases to amaze me that they can continue to talk out of both sides of their mouths for decades and not be taken to task for it.
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He won't. That eddy of the swamp runs deep.UW_Doog_Bot said:The Dems inherently have two opposed bases on immigration.
White working class which obviously favors restrictive immigration policies.
Immigrants and minorities (and neolibs) that favor more open immigration policies.
It never ceases to amaze me that they can continue to talk out of both sides of their mouths for decades and not be taken to task for it.
I really am hoping that Trump can manage to break the current intransigence of the system.
