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Ducks Sign 6 foot, 4,230 lb wide receiver for next season
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He needed to use both accounts this time. Sad.creepycoug said:
haieballz! funny you should show up here.haie said:4th in the North.
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He would be much better if he was at UW right now.creepycoug said:I hate to tell you this, but while Herbert is a physical talent, he's hardly John Elway the way you describe him. The truth is he played like shit in several games last year, and he wasn't great against Washington either.
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Really, has Herbert ever looked that great? He's big, reasonably fast and athletic, and has a good arm, but how has he actually played? He flashed talent very early, and I think he's been riding that hype ever since, never really putting it together in ANY season, let alone last one.
It's possible he's been held back by constant coaching shuffles, only one consistent receiver his entire career, and an offensive line that's shuffled as much as the coaching staff. It'll be interesting to see what the NFL thinks about him if 2019 looks similar to 2017 and 2018. -
Once he gets his reads down 2019 will get ugly quick.1to392831weretaken said:Really, has Herbert ever looked that great? He's big, reasonably fast and athletic, and has a good arm, but how has he actually played? He flashed talent very early, and I think he's been riding that hype ever since, never really putting it together in ANY season, let alone last one.
It's possible he's been held back by constant coaching shuffles, only one consistent receiver his entire career, and an offensive line that's shuffled as much as the coaching staff. It'll be interesting to see what the NFL thinks about him if 2019 looks similar to 2017 and 2018. -
Hubert can make throws like the one at the end of the first half against our DAWGS for a TD that makes scouts drool. Results are less important than potential
I do think he left a ton of money on the table by not being in this draft. If he struggles this year to be consistent it will hurt him -
QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.StrongArmCobra said:
They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.StrongArmCobra said:
QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.greenblood said:
If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)StrongArmCobra said:
One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.greenblood said:
Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.StrongArmCobra said:
If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.creepycoug said:
Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.StrongArmCobra said:
Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.creepycoug said:
You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.StrongArmCobra said:
Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.creepycoug said:
There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.StrongArmCobra said:Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks
Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.
I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.
Got it.
Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time. -
It's really what drives me crazy about all of the preseason Oregon hype. There are Twitter pundits who are actually predicting an undefeated regular season and a playoff berth? Why!? Smart people were able to look at how 2015 finished for UW and predict big things in 2016. That made sense: The conference's best defense, an offense on which the three most important positions were true freshmen who all improved bigly toward the end of the season, and closing out the season with three straight wins including a spanking of a top-25 team. Largest loss of the season was 17 points in a game with the backup QB. Even with three true freshmen at the most important positions on offense, they were a team that was dangerous in every single game they played.RaceBannon said:Hubert can make throws like the one at the end of the first half against our DAWGS for a TD that makes scouts drool. Results are less important than potential
I do think he left a ton of money on the table by not being in this draft. If he struggles this year to be consistent it will hurt him
Oregon? They had a better record than that 2015 Huskies team, but that's with a junior, supposedly #1 overall draft pick, at QB and against the weakest PAC-x conference I've seen in my lifetim. They got blown out 15-44 by freaking Arizona! They lost to the freaking Cuog by two touchdowns, barely beat ASU by 2 at home near the end of the season, and their bowl game was the only game of the entire CFB season that was a bigger turd than the Huskies' P12CG. In the meantime, they lost a receiver who was something like 70% of their passing offense last season, lost easily half of their front-seven talent in Hollins and Jelks, and apparently STILL nobody in the country has actually watched Herbert play.
And it's that last point that gets me. I could give three shits about any team, let alone Oregon, getting preseason hype if the hype if it's justified. In this case, though, the hype seems to be derived 50% from an incoming freshman class (stuuuuuuupid) and 50% from the return of a QB who's been at best wildly inconsistent his entire career butusedtobea#1projectionsohegood. Makes no sense. -
There's no way this team only wins 7 games.BleachedAnusDawg said:
QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.StrongArmCobra said:
They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.StrongArmCobra said:
QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.greenblood said:
If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)StrongArmCobra said:
One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.greenblood said:
Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.StrongArmCobra said:
If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.creepycoug said:
Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.StrongArmCobra said:
Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.creepycoug said:
You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.StrongArmCobra said:
Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.creepycoug said:
There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.StrongArmCobra said:Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks
Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.
I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.
Got it.
Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time.
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If UW was in another conference I might agree that there is potential if things went south that 7 wins could happen. But it's the PAC 12. UW's defense alone will win them 7 games, and with a below average offense, they are winning 9 minimum.BleachedAnusDawg said:
QB not a weakness, but the only QB on the roster with playing time at UW puked all over the field at Cal. Yeah, that's not a weakness...UW could be a 7 win or 11+ win team this season, and it all hinges on the great unknown at QB.StrongArmCobra said:
They don't have to. They have the physical talent everybody is looking for. Even little Haener has more arm talent than Browning. QB depth and talent wasn't a weakness for us before Eason transferred in. Keep trying to make it work though.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Disagree. Not one QB on the roster has proven anything, and it sounds to me like, outside of hoping Eason's pedigree bears out, the other QB's are all shit.StrongArmCobra said:
QB was not a weakness or a hole on the roster before Eason transferred. It's a false equivalency. Stop trying to make it work.greenblood said:
If you need to bring in a transfer, you might not have a competitive and talented position group. Your best eligible QB last year threw one td pass all season (to the wrong team)StrongArmCobra said:
One transfer to supplement an already competitive and talented position group is fine. Recruiting a bunch or JUCO transfers and 4-year transfers to fill gaping holes on your roster is different. Building a program is a process and it has to be built on a strong foundation of internal development. A bunch of transfers are either a waste of scholarships that could have gone to high school recruits or if they do pan out they stunt the development of others and leave a hole they previously filled when they leave. Oregon is not Bama. They're UW under Sark. A bunch of attrition due to poor recruiting evaluations and recruiting guys from across the country that are gonna leave if they're not playing early. Coaches trying to fill holes on a sinking boat with bubble gum. It's fun to watch. I got my popcorn ready.greenblood said:
Yeah, Peterson never signed a transfer. Especially at QB, because it might take away from your young QB’s reps.StrongArmCobra said:
If you want to build a real program, yes, that's what you do. Petersen and Chip Kelly and David Shaw are not out searching for JUCO kids or graduate transfers every off season. You build a great program internally with your own recruits. Not with bandaids that fill a hole for one year but leave another gaping hole when they leave. And don't act like this dude was banging down Oregon's door. They went after him and offered him the easiest path to playing time for his final season with a talented QB to throw him the ball.creepycoug said:
Let me get this straight. You play a season with one receiver who is worth a shit, and he leaves. A guy who has some upside wants to transfer from Penn State, but you tell him to fuck off because you need those reps this season for the younger guys to develop.StrongArmCobra said:
Go ahead and suck even worse in 2020. I don't care. Oregon always wants to put bandaids on holes on the roster instead of developing their own talent internally and that's why they suck and aren't going anywhere.creepycoug said:
You play for now. Next season is next seaon. If the other receivers warrant throws, then they'll get them. That's the nice thing about the position: it's all production. QBs are stingy people by nature. They want to complete passes and will throw to anyone who catches them.StrongArmCobra said:
Except he's a one year rental who'll take game reps away from your younger receivers and slow down their growth and development. Helps Oregon for 2019, hurts them for 2020, especially if he becomes Herbert's favorite target.creepycoug said:
There have been a lot of successful big receivers who are north of 4.4. The knock on him was his inconsistency in 2018. People loved him before that. They were smart to go get him. Little downside.StrongArmCobra said:Gotta love big receivers who are too slow to really play receiver at a high level and too soft to play TE. #ScoDucks
Dillon is gone, and he was their passing game last season.
I also like big receivers if they play big. I'll take a guy who will catch a ball in traffic to move the chains all day long.
Got it.
Brilliant analysis. You'll be running the Alabama program in no time. -
So Johnson’s originally planned QB for this year, Tommy Stevens, hit the portal and is leaving PSU. Senior who was originally supposed to start but think he got beat out.
